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Build to replace my HP N40L (£500 Budget Build)

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So after spending hours of research I finally managed to find a build. This all depended on availability of hardware and price. I struggled to find any boards that supported Coffee Lake or even Skylake CPUs + ECC RAM Compatible it was a real bitch to find something not too expensive. So I have settled for LGA1150. I have drives for the machine to pop in from my old N40L.

 

Build Spec

- Motherboard: Asrock E3C222D4U  - (£131.59 @ eBay)
- Memory: Kingston ECC Unbuffered 16GB RAM 4x4 DIMM - (£88.99 @ eBay)
- CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1225 v3 @ 3.20GHz (Used) - (£98.00 @ eBay)
- Case: Fractal Design ARC Mini R2 Case - (£75.54 @ Amazon)
- PSU: EVGA 600 BQ Power Supply  - (£60.90 @ Amazon)
- CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Air Cooler - (£24.95 @ Amazon)

 


Total Price: £479.97

 

I'm really happy with the spec and actually got more features than originally expected, especially the Asrock board with IPMI! Currently my HP N40L does not have iLO or any remote management. The above spec should be a nice boost in performance and hopefully low powered enough to run 24/7. The case should allow me to eventually expand to 6 drives if need be, I have 4  right now but will be upgrading the drives soon. 

 

Will post up some shots once I start the build. All parts are ordered just awaiting to get delivery!

Edited by witalit

Hi - the challenge is that you've selected the newest Coffee Lake Core i3 CPU.  It supports unbuffered ECC RAM, but trying to find a motherboard that supports both the new chipset and ECC RAM - I haven't found one yet, probably due to the fact that there aren't any Coffee Lake Xeon E3's yet.  ASRock, Supermicro, Asus and MSI are the usual suspects.  By the way, if you do find something it will take unbuffered ECC RAM, not Registered (which is what is shown above).

 

If you go back a generation to the Core i3-7100 (or a Xeon) you'll find options that will run ECC.

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Edited the OP with more details.


Thanks tdallen

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First bits have arrived, all looks well now just waiting on the CPU and Case :). Not the best photo just a quick update.

 

- Asrock E3C222D4U

- Kingston ECC Unbuffered 16GB RAM 4x4 DIMM

- EVGA 600 BQ Power Supply
- Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Air Cooler

 

 

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Looks like you got a good deal on most of those parts.

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48 minutes ago, tdallen said:

Looks like you got a good deal on most of those parts.

 

Yeah I was surprised I could build someone equally powerful as my first list. The Xeon is used so a lot less which  was nice!

 

Wow my maths was all wrong lol.. updated original post with price.

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  • 2 weeks later...
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Completed the build last week. Went well, Parity drive was playing up but damn this thing is fast! unRAID runs like a dream and the Xeon CPU is like a lambo compared to the old N40L AMD CPU. All I need now is to upgrade my drives for bigger storage.

 

Got trouble with IPMI on this board though its blank. If I boot the machine up while connected I can see everything but reconnecting it's just blank... any ideas? 

 

CPU Install

 

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This Fan is HUGE

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Case ready for implant.

 

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Cable tidying the back.

 

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It works!

 

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Near enough completed.

 

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6 minutes ago, witalit said:

Got trouble with IPMI on this board though its blank

Maybe this:

 

If you have on-board Aspeed IPMI you may find that IPMI loses video or changes color during the boot process.  To resolve this, go to Main -> Boot Device -> Flash -> Syslinux Config and add "nomodeset" to your "append" line (and reboot).  It should look something like this:


label unRAID OS
  kernel /bzimage
  append nomodeset initrd=/bzroot

 

 

 

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I will reply to that thread it at least now shows me the unraid login page on the IPMI console just not in the Java Viewer.

 

Thanks johnnie!!

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  • 3 weeks later...

Following this post with interest. I supplied you with the XEON on ebay. This unraid stuff is really intriguing me.

 

My NAS is a an old dual bay ARM processor affair. actually uses the ARM chip out of one of those Compaq IPAQ handheld things from like 2006. So as you can imagine its really slow. but to be fair it does work as a basic NAS.

 

Been thinking about building a replacement for it for a while. few questions I have :-

 

If you use a Xeon do you have to have ECC ram ?

is there that much difference in performance between ECC and NON-ECC ?

Would the XEON be a lot faster than say an I7 ?

 

Have one of these knocking around with 16 GB non ECC ram on it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-DQ67SW-LGA1155-Motherboard-Core-i7-2600-GEN-2-3-8GHz-8GB-DDR3-USB-3-0/382302007044?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

 

As this owes me nothing I'm thinking of using it, currently in a midi case but I could transfer it to the case your using. I like the idea of the side loading hard drive bays. seems a nice case for a nas.

 

Wondering if I could swap the I7 for one of the Xeons. The board doesnt support ecc RAM, so if thats a requirement fot the xeon I guess I'm stuffed.

 

Do I need IPMI ? 

An E3 Xeon is, for all intents and purposes, a Core i7 with support for ECC.  There are other differences - clock speed, max turbo boost, etc.  But in the final analysis it's still very similar to an i7.  @nortsIn your case I'd just build with the i7, there's no advantage putting a Xeon on that board.  While older, it should make a good starter platform for unRAID.

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On 2/20/2018 at 7:51 PM, norts said:

Following this post with interest. I supplied you with the XEON on ebay. This unraid stuff is really intriguing me.

 

My NAS is a an old dual bay ARM processor affair. actually uses the ARM chip out of one of those Compaq IPAQ handheld things from like 2006. So as you can imagine its really slow. but to be fair it does work as a basic NAS.

 

Been thinking about building a replacement for it for a while. few questions I have :-

 

If you use a Xeon do you have to have ECC ram ?

is there that much difference in performance between ECC and NON-ECC ?

Would the XEON be a lot faster than say an I7 ?

 

Have one of these knocking around with 16 GB non ECC ram on it https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-DQ67SW-LGA1155-Motherboard-Core-i7-2600-GEN-2-3-8GHz-8GB-DDR3-USB-3-0/382302007044?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

 

As this owes me nothing I'm thinking of using it, currently in a midi case but I could transfer it to the case your using. I like the idea of the side loading hard drive bays. seems a nice case for a nas.

 

Wondering if I could swap the I7 for one of the Xeons. The board doesnt support ecc RAM, so if thats a requirement fot the xeon I guess I'm stuffed.

 

Do I need IPMI ? 

 

Hey mate thanks for the Xeon its working great! Everything still running like a dream. ECC ram requirements all depend how valuable the data is, if its just a media server then ECC is not as important. For me as I use this as a backup I wanted that extra security and found ECC ram not overly expensive just hard to match a board with. It will help prevent data corruption so it all depends on your use case!

 

I'd go with the Xeon if you have them knocking about as performance wise they are great but maybe not as energy efficient as newer chips. Personally this runs fine at idle so for me its great. As the post from tdallen there are other benefits of the i7 but why buy another CPU if you have the Xeons laying around. Get yourself a decent case like mine and get building! Keep us updated on the build though mate and if you need any help shoot me a PM.


Cheers

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  • 2 months later...
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Just to report back, this build has been absolutely solid. 

 

unRAID has never been so fast for me :-)

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