August 6, 20205 yr Hello... I have a little issue that I have... Currently I have 9 SATA drives and 3 SSD SATA drives using LSI SAS2116... I would like to add SAS drives... Problem is that they are not coming up in unraid... I have tried... 2 sas 2 sata on the same serial cable 2 sas on it's own serial cable 2 sas on a completely separate sas controller 3ware 9650SE SATA-II RAID PCIe (rev 01) (untested in unraid) I have not gone into the setting for the controllers as of yet... so my questions are... Is there a setting that I need to change in the controllers to enable SAS drives? can you mix and match SAS SATA on the same contoller?
August 6, 20205 yr 14 minutes ago, mathomas3 said: Is there a setting that I need to change in the controllers to enable SAS drives? No, at least not on the LSI 15 minutes ago, mathomas3 said: can you mix and match SAS SATA on the same contoller? Yes Diags might give a clue.
August 6, 20205 yr 3ware controller is failing to initialize: Aug 6 10:13:47 Tower kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi1: ERROR: (0x06:0x000E): Controller Queue Error: clearing. Aug 6 10:13:47 Tower kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi1: ERROR: (0x06:0x0015): No valid response during init connection. Aug 6 10:13:47 Tower kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi1: ERROR: (0x06:0x0007): Initconnection failed while checking SRL. Aug 6 10:13:47 Tower kernel: 3w-9xxx: scsi1: ERROR: (0x06:0x0021): Compatibility check failed during reset sequence. Aug 6 10:13:47 Tower kernel: 3w-9xxx: probe of 0000:06:00.0 failed with error -12 Don't see any SAS device on the LSI, if there's no SAS devices connected there connect at least one and post new diags.
August 6, 20205 yr Author at the time of the diag report... the SAS drives were connected the the LSI... which would suggest that perhaps I have a connectivity issue... I will recheck the physical connections... on a side note... I am using the following adapters for the drives... chenyang CY SATA Hard Disk Drive Raid Adapter with 15 Pin Power Port 7 Pin + 15 Pin to SFF-8482 SAS 22 Pin Converter
August 6, 20205 yr Author tower-diagnostics-20200806-1243.zip Reran the Diags after checking physical connections. I can feel the drives spinning up... They are connected to the LSI controller on their own serial connection
August 6, 20205 yr Still nothing, if you hear them spinning up it could be a cable issue, try a different cable if possible.
August 6, 20205 yr Author im 90% sure that they are spinning up... (not a strong feel that I get from my other drives but still a vibration of it starting) In this Diag... I connected them to a known good serial cable that's also connected to the two 5tb drives... If I can make any sense of the logs... I would expect the drive to be sd 11:0:9:0 I guess the next thing to try is to pull the drives and test them in a different box? tower-diagnostics-20200806-1256.zip
August 6, 20205 yr I missed you were using adapters, those could be the problem, try to use a miniSAS to SAS cable.
August 6, 20205 yr Author Something like this? BTW thanks for the help... Dealing with sad is a little out of my wheelhouse... Have a feeling that some of my questions must seem very basic to you
August 8, 20205 yr I'm mix sata ssd, hdd and sas hdd on the same lsi 3408 with an expander without any issue
August 11, 20205 yr Author Welp... Just got in the new cables... And those drives are not showing up... So i am lost as to what my next step should be... 2 dead drives new out of the box???
August 12, 20205 yr I'm sorry, don't have any ideas other than you need to rule out one thing at at time.
August 15, 20205 yr Author Ended up finding out what the issue was... this video explains it all... https://youtu.be/fnISM_LMuss but in short... these sas drives are designed in a way that when they are receiving power on the 3rd pin the drive understands this as power off... that's why unraid was never able to see the drive... and the drives never spun up like I thought that they were... I just used a small bit of tape to cover that pin(very small bit of tape) and the drives came up... these drives are HGST HUH728080AL4200 3.5" 8TB SAS 12Gb/s 7.2K RPM 128M 0F23651 4Kn ISE Enterprise Hard Drive https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X8Z77W8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 also using the following adapter cable Mini SAS Cable with SATA Power, CableCreation Internal Mini SAS 36 Pin to 4 x 29 Pin Cord with SATA Power, SFF-8087 to SFF-8482 Cable, 3.3 FT https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013G4FEGG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
March 15, 20251 yr On 8/16/2020 at 8:20 AM, mathomas3 said: Ended up finding out what the issue was... this video explains it all... https://youtu.be/fnISM_LMuss but in short... these sas drives are designed in a way that when they are receiving power on the 3rd pin the drive understands this as power off... that's why unraid was never able to see the drive... and the drives never spun up like I thought that they were... I just used a small bit of tape to cover that pin(very small bit of tape) and the drives came up... these drives are HGST HUH728080AL4200 3.5" 8TB SAS 12Gb/s 7.2K RPM 128M 0F23651 4Kn ISE Enterprise Hard Drive https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X8Z77W8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 also using the following adapter cable Mini SAS Cable with SATA Power, CableCreation Internal Mini SAS 36 Pin to 4 x 29 Pin Cord with SATA Power, SFF-8087 to SFF-8482 Cable, 3.3 FT https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013G4FEGG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Thank you so much for this post. I just picked up a couple of these drives myself and couldn't get them working until I came across this thread of yours. Taping over the pin worked a treat!
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