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[HELP NEEDED] Why not use USB drives in array?

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Hi All!

 

Before i start with my question here my server:

 

MB: Asus B450m Gaming

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600

APU: Gigabyte GTX 1050-Ti

Memory: Crucial 4x 8GB 2666 MHZ (dual channel)

Cache: SSD Samsung EVO 500 GB

Parity:  1x WD40EFRX (4TB)

Array:   3x  WD40EZRZ (4TB) + 1x ST3000DM008

 

I have 02 USB 3.0 4TB Seagate that i want to add to this array. Why do i need to shuck them? also i don´t have free bays in my case so is there any technical reason that can´t i just plug in the usb port  and add to the array? Or should i buy a new case with more bays and shuck those external drives?

   

Thank you!

Leo.

 

Couple of things.  First, USB connections have been shown to be unstable long term and that results in the drives being dropped from the array.   Second, as I recall, you can't get SMART data back from the drive using the USB connection.

2 hours ago, Frank1940 said:

drives being dropped from the array

which makes then out-of-sync with parity and so will have to be rebuilt. Possibly a frequent occurrence if you try to use USB in the parity array.

 

2 hours ago, Frank1940 said:

Second, as I recall, you can't get SMART data back from the drive using the USB connection

And other possible issues such as disks being presented to Unraid with non-standard sizes

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Thank you, @Frank1940 and @trurl for your help!

 

3 hours ago, Frank1940 said:

First, USB connections have been shown to be unstable long term and that results in the drives being dropped from the array. 

 

This first part I understand.

 

3 hours ago, Frank1940 said:

Second, as I recall, you can't get SMART data back from the drive using the USB connection.

 

What does it mean?

 

Thank you very much!

Leo.

10 minutes ago, BrazMan said:
3 hours ago, Frank1940 said:

Second, as I recall, you can't get SMART data back from the drive using the USB connection.

 

What does it mean?

It means that Unraid cannot monitor the disks health. No chance of an advance warning if a drive is having issues.

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1 minute ago, ChatNoir said:

It means that Unraid cannot monitor the disks health. No chance of an advance warning if a drive is having issues.

Thank you  @ChatNoir for the explanation. So i will shuck the external drives and buy a new case with more drive bays

 

  

7 minutes ago, BrazMan said:

What does it mean?

 

SMART  (Look in Wikipedia under S.M.A.R.T.)  is the monitoring system used by all disk manufacturers to report back on the state of the health of a hard drive (or solid state drive).  You can get to this report by double-clicking on the Disk # under the 'DEVICE' column on either the Main or Dashboard tab of the GUI.  If you look at the "SMART Settings" section/tab of this report for any disk, you can see the attributes that Unraid will monitor and report any change via the Notification system. 

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4 hours ago, Frank1940 said:

SMART  (Look in Wikipedia under S.M.A.R.T.)  is the monitoring system used by all disk manufacturers to report back on the state of the health of a hard drive (or solid state drive).  You can get to this report by double-clicking on the Disk # under the 'DEVICE' column on either the Main or Dashboard tab of the GUI.  If you look at the "SMART Settings" section/tab of this report for any disk, you can see the attributes that Unraid will monitor and report any change via the Notification system. 

Thank you @Frank1940 it is always good to learn something. I appreciatte your explanation

 

THX,

Leo.

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