May 14, 20233 yr Hi there! I'm facing a strange problem - I've seen a number of similar threads, but none seems to fit. I reworked my unraid box, moving taking out a SATA SSD and the HBA, plugging in an NVME as cache, and other disks on the mobo connectors. Since then, disks spin down, but always get up by a SMART reading: May 14 15:54:20 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:02:03 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf May 14 16:03:08 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf May 14 16:03:10 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd May 14 16:03:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 14 16:03:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc May 14 16:03:27 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 14 16:04:08 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 14 16:04:23 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg May 14 16:04:23 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc May 14 16:04:29 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:04:32 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 14 16:14:37 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:24:46 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:33:03 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf May 14 16:34:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf May 14 16:34:09 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd May 14 16:34:11 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 14 16:34:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 14 16:34:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc May 14 16:34:13 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc As you can see, I still have to connect again the UPS USB cable I've tried almost anything: disks are idling, dockers (I have a number!) and VMs are set off. Running 6.12rc5. What could I try? tower-diagnostics-20230514-1703.zip
May 14, 20233 yr Community Expert 5 minutes ago, ghiglie said: Hi there! I'm facing a strange problem - I've seen a number of similar threads, but none seems to fit. I reworked my unraid box, moving taking out a SATA SSD and the HBA, plugging in an NVME as cache, and other disks on the mobo connectors. Since then, disks spin down, but always get up by a SMART reading: May 14 15:54:20 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:02:03 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf May 14 16:03:08 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf May 14 16:03:10 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd May 14 16:03:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 14 16:03:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc May 14 16:03:27 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 14 16:04:08 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 14 16:04:23 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg May 14 16:04:23 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc May 14 16:04:29 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:04:32 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh May 14 16:14:37 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:24:46 Tower apcupsd[8958]: Communications with UPS lost. May 14 16:33:03 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf May 14 16:34:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf May 14 16:34:09 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd May 14 16:34:11 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 14 16:34:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 14 16:34:11 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc May 14 16:34:13 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc As you can see, I still have to connect again the UPS USB cable I've tried almost anything: disks are idling, dockers (I have a number!) and VMs are set off. Running 6.12rc5. What could I try? tower-diagnostics-20230514-1703.zip 126.55 kB · 0 downloads smart read is because Unraid has detected IO on a drive and it is used to get temp etc. and not the cause of the spin up. Have you tried safe mode to see if a plugin is the cause of the spin up?
May 14, 20233 yr Author 1 minute ago, SimonF said: smart read is because Unraid has detected IO on a drive and it is used to get temp etc. and not the cause of the spin up. Have you tried safe mode to see if a plugin is the cause of the spin up? Hi Simon! Yes, I did, but it keeps doing so. Disks spin down individually, but after some time are woken up. Before that hardware rework (tried to save some power) it was working like a charm...
May 14, 20233 yr Community Expert 7 minutes ago, ghiglie said: Hi Simon! Yes, I did, but it keeps doing so. Disks spin down individually, but after some time are woken up. Before that hardware rework (tried to save some power) it was working like a charm... Looks like some of appdata is on disk3 is that expected? I know you said docker is shutoff at present so should be read. appdata shareUseCache="only" # Share exists on cache, disk3 Any remote systems reading drives? maybe try removing cache dir plugin?
May 14, 20233 yr Author 12 minutes ago, SimonF said: Looks like some of appdata is on disk3 is that expected? I know you said docker is shutoff at present so should be read. appdata shareUseCache="only" # Share exists on cache, disk3 Any remote systems reading drives? maybe try removing cache dir plugin? Geez, didn't notice that folder. It's empty fortunately, I'm removing it .. now! I shut down the autofan too - removing the cache dir plugin, I'll report back soon. ( thanks for your prompt replies!)
May 14, 20233 yr Author Sob, I decided for another run in safe mode and... last shutdown, even it was clear, triggered a parity check. I'm goint to let it finish.
May 14, 20233 yr The SMART message you get is simply something that happens when they spin up, and unrelated. I had a similar issue and it was the ZFS Master Plugin and only affected my ZFS formatted disks.
May 15, 20233 yr Author 12 hours ago, samsausages said: The SMART message you get is simply something that happens when they spin up, and unrelated. I had a similar issue and it was the ZFS Master Plugin and only affected my ZFS formatted disks. So it's an effect, and not a cause... mmm... In the while, Parity check finished in safe mode, but... same issue, even in safe mode. I'm stopping the server to prevent a spinning recycle. During the night (...) I'll try to put back the HBA in, even I'd spare gladly those 10Watts (it's a 9211-8i flashed in IT mode).
May 16, 20233 yr Author small update: no news... It happens even on Maintenance mode, no logs in activity plugin . May 16 01:38:02 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sde May 16 01:46:48 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/nvme0n1 May 16 01:46:48 Tower emhttpd: sdspin /dev/nvme0n1 down: 25 May 16 01:48:00 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 16 01:48:01 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 16 01:48:01 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd May 16 01:48:01 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf May 16 01:48:01 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc May 16 01:48:06 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 16 01:48:06 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf May 16 01:48:19 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg May 16 01:48:19 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc May 16 01:48:28 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh
May 16, 20233 yr Community Expert Spin down doesn't work correctly in maintenance mode, don't know why but it doesn't, try instead to start in normal mode and disable VM ad docker services.
May 16, 20233 yr Author 9 hours ago, JorgeB said: Spin down doesn't work correctly in maintenance mode, don't know why but it doesn't, try instead to start in normal mode and disable VM ad docker services. Yet done, it was my first try! I'm noticing that the wake order is always the same: sdf, sdd, sdg, sdc, sdh : May 16 19:08:17 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdc May 16 19:08:18 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdg May 16 19:08:19 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdh May 16 19:08:20 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdf May 16 19:08:21 Tower emhttpd: spinning down /dev/sdd May 16 19:09:09 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdf May 16 19:09:16 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdd May 16 19:09:31 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdg May 16 19:09:31 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdc May 16 19:09:40 Tower emhttpd: read SMART /dev/sdh "BTW, what is this task? /usr/local/emhttp/plugins/dynamix.my.servers/scripts/UpdateFlashBackup update" Edited May 16, 20233 yr by ghiglie
May 19, 20233 yr Author Upgraded to RC6, but unluckiliy no free solution... I think I've messed up something. How can I "reset" my system and star new? I can save my appdata, but what about the array? Thanks all! Marco
May 26, 20233 yr Author Solution Uh, it looks like I found the waking process! It seems it's been an rclone job, launched by Custom scripts. It looks like it was looping on retrying... Anyway, I put up the HBA and some spare HDDs. Long live the H97!
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