August 16, 201114 yr 3TB drives have been out for quite some time now. Can even get a couple good deals on them now. When is unRAID going to release a new stable version? I refuse to use a beta product or a pilot and then later have someone say, "I told ya so". Is Lime coming out with a new stable?
August 16, 201114 yr I suppose they are slowly orking out the issues as you can see in the beta's, up to eleven so far. More than Likely it will take some time as a fair few things were changed and there are some issues to iron out. Josh
August 16, 201114 yr 3TB drives have been out for quite some time now. Can even get a couple good deals on them now. When is unRAID going to release a new stable version? I refuse to use a beta product or a pilot and then later have someone say, "I told ya so". Is Lime coming out with a new stable? If you refuse to use beta then you are going to be stuck with 2TB drives for right now. LimeTech is working on 5.0 release but there are many thing they want to get added/improved/stable before putting out a 5.0 stable release.
August 16, 201114 yr Want and need are two different things.... That said... I don't think that is an answer anyone including Tom himself can answer. the point of the betas is to find out if it is stable. If not, what needs to be fixed. This cycle can go on for an infinite amount of time until all parties are satisfied. The road map to 5 looks like several features are not yet implemented. I would take a guess at you still have a bit wait still. On the other side of the coin while you wait, the 3TB will get produced in mass quantities and the early adopters will have their fill. the price will eventually drop like a rock. in a way, you are saving a ton of cash by waiting. that $150 drive might be $80 in 4-6 months. also, while you wait, 2TB drives are falling in price at an alarming rate. You can get them on sale for about $60 each. for raw gig per dollar, you can still get around 2x 2TB for the price of 1x 3TB. The real problem is number of physical drives and unraid... then again, I am a hypocrite because I want all 3TB drives myself.... so i run the beta software. I'm also waiting for the sales again myself so i can buy more. I prefer higher density arrays.
August 17, 201114 yr Author Want and need are two different things.... That said... I don't think that is an answer anyone including Tom himself can answer. the point of the betas is to find out if it is stable. If not, what needs to be fixed. This cycle can go on for an infinite amount of time until all parties are satisfied. The road map to 5 looks like several features are not yet implemented. I would take a guess at you still have a bit wait still. On the other side of the coin while you wait, the 3TB will get produced in mass quantities and the early adopters will have their fill. the price will eventually drop like a rock. in a way, you are saving a ton of cash by waiting. that $150 drive might be $80 in 4-6 months. also, while you wait, 2TB drives are falling in price at an alarming rate. You can get them on sale for about $60 each. for raw gig per dollar, you can still get around 2x 2TB for the price of 1x 3TB. The real problem is number of physical drives and unraid... then again, I am a hypocrite because I want all 3TB drives myself.... so i run the beta software. I'm also waiting for the sales again myself so i can buy more. I prefer higher density arrays. I can understand all this and get my head wrapped around it, but I think there should have at least been a small upgrade like 4.7.1 that just includes support for the larger drive size. The software has to keep up with the hardware or will go poof.
August 17, 201114 yr I can understand all this and get my head wrapped around it, but I think there should have at least been a small upgrade like 4.7.1 that just includes support for the larger drive size. The software has to keep up with the hardware or will go poof. That's impossible considering all the underlying needs to support 3TB drives. There is no such "small upgrade" possible to support 3TB drives. The Linux Kernel and all the Slackware distro and supporting tools would need to be upgraded along with the unRAID MD drivers and emhttp code. The change to a hypothetical unRAID 4.7.1 for 3TB drives is nearly 80% of the changes made to the unRAID 5.x series.
August 17, 201114 yr There is a process that I documented to use 3T drives, downsized to 2.2T, with 4.7. Maybe not what you were considering, but us an option.
August 17, 201114 yr also, while you wait, 2TB drives are falling in price at an alarming rate. You can get them on sale for about $60 each. for raw gig per dollar, you can still get around 2x 2TB for the price of 1x 3TB. The real problem is number of physical drives and unraid... This is an example of a good alternative to 3TB drives, I realize the work to support 3TB is already underway, and by all means finish it. BUT I really want to see P+Q parity AND a max array increase to 40/48 or more drives. With SAS expanders becoming much more affordable, it is feasible that we could have multi-module unraid servers with 20-24 drives per module.
August 17, 201114 yr I really want to see P+Q parity I want to see this also AND a max array increase to 40/48 or more drives. With SAS expanders becoming much more affordable, it is feasible that we could have multi-module unraid servers with 20-24 drives per module. Dear god that would be a crap load of drives assigned to one unRAID server. Increase the max array size to 24 (to fit the norco 4224 case) and call it a day. Anything much over that 24 drive limit and you might as well, and kind of have to build another server.
August 17, 201114 yr AND a max array increase to 40/48 or more drives. With SAS expanders becoming much more affordable, it is feasible that we could have multi-module unraid servers with 20-24 drives per module. Dear god that would be a crap load of drives assigned to one unRAID server. Increase the max array size to 24 (to fit the norco 4224 case) and call it a day. Anything much over that 24 drive limit and you might as well, and kind of have to build another server. Dear God +1 Someone had been on the [H]ard forums to much Although.. In theory, you can put 2-4 Unraid servers into 1 ESXi tower with a 22 drive "module for each one" It might look like this! ACK! I agree 22 drives plus 1 Cache and 1 parity is fine. If we do go P+Q, then you only need 21 array disks to fill the 2442.
August 17, 201114 yr Dear god that would be a crap load of drives assigned to one unRAID server. Increase the max array size to 24 (to fit the norco 4224 case) and call it a day. Anything much over that 24 drive limit and you might as well, and kind of have to build another server. Actually, beyond 24 drives you need another case, not necessarily another server (you'd have to have 2 more parity drives). Build Case 1 with 24 drives and appropriate SAS modules, then run SAS cables to Box #2 with PSU, expanders and drives. P+Q would alleviate the drive failure risk across a larger array, and you don't have to double up on motherboards,CPUs, or RAM. As an admittedly expensive example, larger arrays would allow a person to add one of these to their rack rather than building a whole new server. (heh, what can I say... I may not need it, but the idea of more than 60TB on a server gives me chills )
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