7.0.0-beta.2: U cant clean remove modprobe config. (only way is to add a space " ") and save

 

 

 

(after click on save icon:)

 

 

U can only save one space " "

 

And if u click delete modprobe config

 

Edited July 21, 20241 yr by NewDisplayName

7 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

U can only save one space " "

Correct has the os has somefiles and you need to create a blank one to replace the shipped one, i.e. it may blacklist a driver as default.

16 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

U cant clean remove modprobe config. (only way is to add a space " ") and save

I find you delete all of the white space it works also. Code is public so you can raise prs if you want.

what else i should send? video proof? or what? I showed exact pictures of removing everything and clicking saving.. the piucture after is what is shown to me which is FALSE.

Edited July 21, 20241 yr by NewDisplayName

29 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

what else i should send? video proof? or what? I showed exact pictures of removing everything and clicking saving.. the piucture after is what is shown to me which is FALSE.

Post in the bug reports section not feature requests, This feature has been in since 6.12 are you seeing the issue on 6.12 7beta?

6 minutes ago, SimonF said:

Post in the bug reports section not feature requests, This feature has been in since 6.12 are you seeing the issue on 6.12 7beta?

I love the part where you get "attacked" for posting bugs.

 

Testing new features would be a feature request. 

 

And yes its the first time ive used that feature, b ecause unraid isnt stable, because unraid dont work with (9900k) igpus.

 

If you like you can move that post where you think its fitting. I gave up on that forum structure long ago.

Edited July 21, 20241 yr by NewDisplayName

14 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

attacked" for posting bugs.

I have not attacked, I have said where you should post bugs. It was tested when it was written. But things may have changed, Also as a dev we test as welll as we can, this is my code so I will investigate the issue.

1 hour ago, NewDisplayName said:

I love the part where you get "attacked" for posting bugs.

No one is attacking you...

(IMHO you are attacking the devs a bit with the title but that's only my opinion)

 

1 hour ago, NewDisplayName said:

Testing new features would be a feature request. 

That's why it's a beta (pre-release) and basically you are testing features too if you install a beta on your machine, that's why it's called a beta and bugs can happen.

Also this is not the Bug report sub thread for pre-releases.

 

1 hour ago, NewDisplayName said:

And yes its the first time ive used that feature, b ecause unraid isnt stable, because unraid dont work with (9900k) igpus.

Sorry, to say that is not the topic from this report and you already have a bug report (in the correct sub thread) open for that.

BTW, I know a few users with 9th gen and the iGPU is definitely working for them, for instance @Anym001 also owns a 9th gen CPU and everything is working for him just fine, however did you yet thought about that the application that you are using is the cause of the issue?

 

I really like you profile picture, it reflect my smileys perfectly...

 

9 hours ago, NewDisplayName said:

I love the part where you get "attacked" for posting bugs.

 

Testing new features would be a feature request. 

 

And yes its the first time ive used that feature, b ecause unraid isnt stable, because unraid dont work with (9900k) igpus.

 

If you like you can move that post where you think its fitting. I gave up on that forum structure long ago.

It is working as expected for me on both 6.12 and 7. Have you changed any of the PHP logging settings since booting?

1 hour ago, SimonF said:

It is working as expected for me on both 6.12 and 7. Have you changed any of the PHP logging settings since booting?

No, its just a fresh usb install with you rinstaller. updated everything

9 hours ago, ich777 said:

fine, however did you yet thought about that the application that you are using is the cause of the issue?

 

 

Understand your customers, weve paid, yes its a one time, but it would work on standard hardware that was the deal for unraid.

 

Since 2 years im plaqued by different problems but over all problem with freeezes and or reboots. Always using standard consumer hardware which was 100% working when used as a gaming pc. First with 6700k then with 9900k, there are either no logs or gpu hang or what other ppl are reporting. No extreme OC, plenty of w (1000w platinum)

 

I tried to fix it myself, i tried everything suggested, it was on differnt usb sticks, ram, gpus, mainboards, cpus same problems, then this stops working, then th is is bugged, then this doesnt get saved or changes on itself... 

 

I dont know if its an hardware defect or a docker, but should unraid not try to find out where it is coming from? You always have to "feel" if the devs are aware of problems. 

 

In the end i had to put a dGPU into the unraid server, even its not really needed (save power), but the igpu doenst seem to work, maybe its a an intel issue? I dont know but how should i investigate such a thing?

15 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

Understand your customers, weve paid, yes its a one time, but it would work on standard hardware that was the deal for unraid.

Sorry, but I don't work for Limetech, I'm just a contributor because I really like Unraid and I want to make it better like many other here too.

 

15 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

which was 100% working when used as a gaming pc.

Surely Windows correct? ...and I assume you weren't gaming with your iGPU and you've had a dedicated GPU in the PC...

 

15 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

I dont know if its an hardware defect or a docker, but should unraid not try to find out where it is coming from? You always have to "feel" if the devs are aware of problems. 

I don't feel like Unraid nor Limetech should find out where it's coming from since it seems, at least to me, that this is coming from the hardware or any other kind of weird constellation.

Other than that it seems that not much people are affected since there are no other bug reports from users with 9th Gen Intel CPUs with such issues and I assume there are a lot of users out there with 9th Gen Intel CPUs (AFAIK in the German subforms the i3-9100 is often used because of it's power efficiency).

Maybe this is really a hardware defect and the iGPU is defective but I haven't seen the GPU hang in years.

 

15 minutes ago, NewDisplayName said:

I dont know but how should i investigate such a thing?

That's really hard since you have to spend some money on hardware to test, the most obvious things to me is the CPU/Motherboard/RAM if the power supply is known to be sufficient.

 

 

EDIT: LOL, I just realized I made an answer that was better suited in your bug report and not here about the modprobes...

Yeah, its hard to explain the odysee, the gpu hang thing is new (unraid 7+), also the inotify error others reported, and the idea that the other problems like freezes might come from that is a new idea. I saw gpu hangs in plex, frigate and tdarr. So unlikly a app thing, more a i915 thing.

 

I know that it might be not much users or not much reporting about it because they are okay with it needign restart every XX days... 

 

If i would run some kind of special hardware i would understand but its pretty standard, yes youre right with my gaming rig i didnt used the igpu much, still i didnt had any crashes or freezes wihtout using it. I had the crashes while activly using it and also while actifly using a dgpu. So it happens in both cases. I removed dgpu to rule that out.

 

my last straw was a new usb stick...

 

Isnt it possible to get better logs? Like would it work if i run  tail -f /var/log/* >> /boot/logs in screen? Where are docker logs?

Edited July 21, 20241 yr by NewDisplayName

For what it's worth I've been and still am using a i3 9100 CPU with its iGPU and ECC RAM for the past 4 years.

My server has had up to 300 days of uptime with zero crashes, problems or reboots on versions 6.8.3 to 6.12.11.

I'm using Plex and transcode up to 4K often using the iGPU, the experience there has also been nothing but flawless.

 

I haven't tried it on 7.0.0-beta.2 with that hardware just yet, to be fair.

But I expect you're not the only person on the beta with a 9th generation CPU.

 

Have you considered maybe doing a RAM test or selectively disabling some of your plugins/containers?

I've seen some users where RAM problems caused such freezes, or a broken plugin or container as well.

 

If you've been plagued by freezes and reboots for two years, this likely is not something introduced by the beta.

Hardware or plugins/containers you've been using for that long might be worth looking into and reconstructing your steps.

 

Hi,

thanks for your feedback.

 

I never had gpu problems or crashes (gpu hang and inotify errors), these are new with unraid 7+.

 

What i have since 6.10 is freezes and or crashes randomly between some hours and some weeks.

 

And that with different mb, ram and cpu. 🙂 (and usb stick)

 

All while not activly using igpu atall. 

 

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To rule the gpu out, i tried removing my dgpu and this is where the new fun startet... ^^

 

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now im back to dgpu, removed all dev dri and disabled VM.

 

Edit:

i saw that your igpu is using 1,1ghz and my is using 1,2ghz - maybe its just running stable with 1,1ghz 

 

edit2: If its a software problem (and im just using standard dockers like from linuxserver and so on) it should be a priority for the future for unraid and or limetech to implement some sort of debug mode or something WHERE we can get USEFULL logs.

Edited July 22, 20241 yr by NewDisplayName