Hi, 🙂

I've been using an unRAID setup for many years on a Ryzen 1600AF, an MSI B450 motherboard, and 64GB of RAM.

This server is my network hub and handles everything; it has a lot of things running and is becoming too small for me.

But the license is tied to the motherboard.

I bought an ASUS X570 and a 5950X so I can continue using my 64GB of RAM, and also because it has more PCIe lanes and, above all, because it's PCIe 4.0.

Can I transfer my license to this new motherboard?

Is it not possible according to what I've read?

Thank you so much

You will need to open a support ticket or email unraid support for them to move your license to the new TPM since you are ineligible.

20 minutes ago, MowMdown said:

You will need to open a support ticket or email unraid support for them to move your license to the new TPM since you are ineligible.

Well, that's a shame... 🤨

I didn't want to use the TPM license, but when I updated unraid to the version that allowed internal booting, it wouldn't boot from that USB drive.

This is because I use an SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure as a flash drive, and the new version of unraid doesn't seem to like my SSD + USB enclosure setup after so many years of it working perfectly.

Anyway, I have two PRO licenses, one of which is still linked to another USB drive. So, by restoring a backup from the current server to this USB drive and using the second license linked to it, I can continue working on the X570+5950x (I've tested it).

But this shouldn't be the case. I don't know how long it takes to transfer the license to the new motherboard, but if I transfer all the drives to the new computer and only have one license, and it takes several days to transfer it, I'll have a problem at home.

I'm going to contact support and have them remove the license from the B450 and transfer it to the new motherboard or another compatible USB drive, because I'm going to sell it.

Thank you very much.

Note that there's currently a bug with the account app where it always shows "cannot replace," so it may be worth trying it yourself first.

13 hours ago, PoMpIs said:

This is because I use an SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure as a flash drive, and the new version of unraid doesn't seem to like my SSD + USB enclosure setup after so many years of it working perfectly.

May I ask why? Asking cause I've never heard of anyone else using the same configuration.

Since you're already swapping out the motherboard and having to deal with the license transfer anyway, it might be a great time to just ditch the SSD-in-a-USB-enclosure setup and switch back to a quality industrial USB flash drive.

That way you won't have to worry about future updates breaking things or running into these weird boot device issues again.

5 hours ago, JorgeB said:

Tenga en cuenta que actualmente existe un error en la aplicación de la cuenta que muestra siempre el mensaje "no se puede reemplazar", por lo que quizás valga la pena intentarlo usted mismo primero.

Oh! I didn't know that.

Well, I'll try it and see if it allows it. 🙂

Thank you very much.

2 hours ago, Lolight said:

¿Puedo preguntar por qué? Pregunto porque nunca he oído hablar de nadie más que utilice la misma configuración.

Dado que ya vas a cambiar la placa base y a gestionar la transferencia de la licencia, quizás sea un buen momento para abandonar la configuración de SSD en una carcasa USB y volver a utilizar una unidad flash USB industrial de calidad.

De esa forma no tendrás que preocuparte de que futuras actualizaciones estropeen las cosas o de volver a encontrarte con estos extraños problemas con el dispositivo de arranque.

It was a test years ago, and seeing that it worked well, I left it as is. Besides, I thought it was a brilliant idea because the GUID that UnRAID used was the one on the enclosure, so I could swap the SSD for another one without any problems. Everything worked without swapping licenses. I even had UnRAID running for a while with an old 2.5" 500GB mechanical HDD in that same enclosure, and everything worked perfectly. 😀

And apart from that, it was super fast. UnRAID updates were instantaneous, and there were no issues with UnRAID saving the registry on the disk; it doesn't degrade like USB drives because it's a regular SSD that's used in any PC for operating systems.

Cheers 🙂

Edited August 12Aug 12 by PoMpIs

2 hours ago, PoMpIs said:

And apart from that, it was super fast. UnRAID updates were instantaneous, and there were no issues with UnRAID saving the registry on the disk; it doesn't degrade like USB drives because it's a regular SSD that's used in any PC for operating systems.

That SSD enclosure setup was definitely a clever hack back in the day, but I think you have a misconception about how Unraid uses the flash drive compared to a regular PC OS.

Unlike Windows or Linux, Unraid runs entirely out of RAM -- meaning the drive is basically idling 99% of the time.

It only writes tiny configuration files when you save settings, so it doesn't experience the wear and tear or degradation of a standard OS drive.

All those horror stories about failing USB drives just come from people buying cheap, low-quality plastic sticks out of the bargain bin.

You don't need to overcomplicate it with an SSD setup.

If you just grab a proper, high-quality industrial USB flash drive, you'll get rock-solid reliability without risking future boot issues or TPM licensing headaches.

@Lolight

Yes, I know how unraid works... but since I already had the case and several SSDs, I tried it out, and seeing that it worked perfectly, I stuck with it.

But I don't know how fast unraid loads on one of those USB drives you mentioned, but on the SSD it boots up in just a few seconds, and the updates are insane; you just click on the update and it's almost instantaneous.😄

But now with the x570+5950x, I'm transferring the license from the B450, and going from a 1600AF to a 5950x is spectacular; the difference is amazing, and it should last me for many years. 👌

I'm picking this up again...

Because I wanted to transfer my second unraid PRO license, which I use for testing, to another USB drive.

And I can't find a way to do it. Does the system force me to switch to TPM? Is switching to TPM now mandatory?. (I absolutely refuse; this license is constantly being tested with different hardware.)

🤨

are you currently booted from the replacement USB?

7 minutes ago, MowMdown said:

are you currently booted from the replacement USB?

Yes, of course, I have several USB drives, I've tried with several and it's always the same, I never see an option to transfer to another USB drive, only TPM.

EDIT:

Disabling TPM 2.0 on the motherboard was enough to make the option to switch to USB appear.

I don't think this should be necessary. By default, if UnRAID detects TPM as active, it doesn't show any USB devices at all to change the license from one USB drive to another.

This has given me an idea...

Perhaps if I boot my production server with TPM disabled, it might allow me to switch back from TPM to a USB drive. 🤔

Although I didn't plan on changing the motherboard in the production server for a long time, I almost prefer having it on USB; if the motherboard fails, I just install the spare and it's up and running quickly.

Edited Friday at 09:22 PM3 days by PoMpIs

9 hours ago, PoMpIs said:

Disabling TPM 2.0 on the motherboard was enough to make the option to switch to USB appear.

Yep, currently this is the way.

12 hours ago, JorgeB said:

Yep, currently this is the way.

Well, it's been confirmed... if I remove the TPM on my production server, which has the license transferred to the TPM, I can then transfer it back to a USB drive.

So, the message from my unraid account that I'm not allowed to transfer that license is incorrect.

12 hours ago, PoMpIs said:

So, the message from my unraid account that I'm not allowed to transfer that license is incorrect.

That is an unrelated bug, it shows for everyone, even when the license can be transferred by the user.