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There is no installation, It just runs live?

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hi,

I got unraid up \\tower on my lan no problem, it sees the disks and everything so far im impressed (if a little concerned at how baron everything is,i mean this is REALLY simple). But there doesnt seem to be an install button ?

 

how does it install or am i right in thinking the usb pen is always run 'live'  , if i add discs do changes get automatically written to the usb pen? and if so what happens when i turn off my computer and then turn it back on again? do i always have a grub menu to run without plugins or normal etc...

it feels a bit like puppy linux where there would be some sort of save file on the usb but i cant find anywhere on the gui that commits 'Save Session'

 

just wondered..

 

thanks

 

Megz  :D

Unraid is installed on the USB, and runs in memory, which has the benefit of not using up and potential data HDs for the OS, as for being baron there are a couple of alternative web guis including the WIP one in my sig.

did you read WiKi?

 

there is no install, unraid is designed to be run from usb flash stick

there is a way to set it up using an SSD or HDD but you still need flash drive if you buy the license as it always looks for a flash drive for license file and flash GUID.

 

other than that yes it is very simple to setup and use.

unRAID, boots from the flash drive,

runs live in memory with root on a ram disk.

saves crucial run files on the flash, passwd, group, smbpasswd, array superblock and other unix required configurations.

See /boot/config for some of those files that are saved on flash.

 

It's designed to be simple. In the end you only really need to worry about your data disks.

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did you read WiKi?

 

there is no install, unraid is designed to be run from usb flash stick

there is a way to set it up using an SSD or HDD but you still need flash drive if you buy the license as it always looks for a flash drive for license file and flash GUID.

 

other than that yes it is very simple to setup and use.

 

I did but not mentioning about any installation isnt the same as describing how its not needed  ;)

sorry but info you want is not on the WiKi

 

it's here "http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server-installation/"

main page ==> support ==> installation

unRAID® Server OS Installation

unRAID Server OS is designed to be installed on, and boot from, a 128MB or larger Flash storage device.

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sorry but info you want is not on the WiKi

 

it's here "http://lime-technology.com/unraid-server-installation/"

main page ==> support ==> installation

unRAID® Server OS Installation

unRAID Server OS is designed to be installed on, and boot from, a 128MB or larger Flash storage device.

 

and i accept your apology  ;)

but you know what? when you run any of the other server builds be it freenas, nas4free,zfsguru etc.. there is an installation even though they run live off the pen initially, its kind of like a  setup procedure ... yet with unraid it just feels like its running live with no save file..

perhaps im not making myself clear, im not complaining but the guide you posted doesnt show 'installation' it shows a way to boot live and run from a pen but nothing beyond that ... which is my point .. what IS beyond running on a live pen is there anything? how does the system 'save' my mac/ip/ parity/disc information (from the gui) once i shut down the PC ? 

 

Weebo Tech explained it thanks !

 

thanks

 

 

When you enter your settings and press save/done, they get saved on the usb stick.

 

Sent from a mobile device, sorry for any typos.

 

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When you enter your settings and press save/done, they get saved on the usb stick.

 

Sent from a mobile device, sorry for any typos.

 

thx.

 

appreciate it.

 

 

The OS is running in RAM and is saved to RAM. When you reboot, unRAID unpacks a fresh OS from bzroot, bzimage. These packed images are not updated (except when replaced during upgrade). So, anything that you write to any of the usual linux locations are in RAM and will not survive a reboot.

 

The only locations that are persistent are /mnt (the actual disks or user shares on those disks) and /boot (flash).

 

Also, on startup, unRAID will automatically do some installs for you if you put them in the right place on your flash drive. This is the order:

1) Slackware packages (.txz, .tgz) in /boot/extra are installed with installpkg

2) System plugins (.plg, typically alternate webGUIs) in /boot/plugins are installed with installplg

3) User plugins (.plg, other plugins) in /boot/config/plugins are installed with installplg

4) The script /boot/config/go is run. You can put whatever you need in here, such as writing changes to the OS files that have been reloaded into RAM

 

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thanks for the clarification.

 

I noticed on root login: 

pressing ctrl+alt+delete to reboot the machine goes through a few processes before shutting down. Just before my box shuts down i get a message

 

Unmounting Remote Filesystem

Can't find /in  /etc/fstab  or etc/mtab

 

then it shuts down normally.

 

is this something that will be an issue come actually creating an array and run the system as normal? Or is that behaviour expected? The pen is default 5.05 and made from a .zip  into an ISO as per the instructions on how to make a bootable pen from within linux.

 

As far as I know, ctrl-alt-del is not the recommended way to shutdown unRAID. I have always shut down from the webGUI after stopping the array, if possible, and if not then by running the powerdown script, which you would have to install.

 

There was some talk about getting the powerdown script to work with ctrl-alt-del, but I don't know if that was worked out.

 

The array must be stopped before rebooting / cutting power or unRAID will start a parity check when you restart.

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As far as I know, ctrl-alt-del is not the recommended way to shutdown unRAID. I have always shut down from the webGUI after stopping the array, if possible, and if not then by running the powerdown script, which you would have to install.

 

There was some talk about getting the powerdown script to work with ctrl-alt-del, but I don't know if that was worked out.

 

The array must be stopped before rebooting / cutting power or unRAID will start a parity check when you restart.

 

i have no array.

 

i just loaded up the pen, logged in as root:  then shut down using ctrl alt delete it presents that message.

 

I just tried a sudo reboot.. and it said the same but just before that it said can mount file system read only

 

Just to get this straight, i have no array im just dipping my toe into the initial boot of the usb, i was wondering if thats a normal message? perhaps my pen has read only status? perhaps because i converted the .zip to .iso it has odd ball folder configurations as i did not use the scripts as there isnt one for linux.

 

im just trying to make sure there isnt any funnies before i start building the array.

 

thanks

 

 

 

 

As far as I know, ctrl-alt-del is not the recommended way to shutdown unRAID. I have always shut down from the webGUI after stopping the array, if possible, and if not then by running the powerdown script, which you would have to install.

 

There was some talk about getting the powerdown script to work with ctrl-alt-del, but I don't know if that was worked out.

 

The array must be stopped before rebooting / cutting power or unRAID will start a parity check when you restart.

 

i have no array.

 

i just loaded up the pen, logged in as root:  then shut down using ctrl alt delete it presents that message.

 

I just tried a sudo reboot.. and it said the same but just before that it said can mount file system read only

 

Just to get this straight, i have no array im just dipping my toe into the initial boot of the usb, i was wondering if thats a normal message? perhaps my pen has read only status? perhaps because i converted the .zip to .iso it has odd ball folder configurations as i did not use the scripts as there isnt one for linux.

 

im just trying to make sure there isnt any funnies before i start building the array.

 

thanks

 

This is not the correct way to shutdown so all sorts of messages may appear. However; those messages are normal for unRAID.

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