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Thinking about purchasing Unraid Unlimited but need help with HBA recommendations and other stuff with the software

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2 hours ago, DoItMyselfToo said:

The title says "IT Mode", so I would think yes, though the best thing to do is to message the seller.

 

 

I ended up going with two Dell H310s got  both  for only  32.00  . so basically 16.00 ea  will reflash myself.  I just wanted an extra dont know why

 

also got a intel RAID Storage Controller RES2SV240 /  27.00 Shipped!

 

got me some reverse breakout cables for my Norco 4224 , 

 

Got one mini sas to mini sas cable for  5 bucks.

 

Norco 4224 case cost me about 335.00 newegg.

 

Will be running a Z270 , 7700k at 4.5 ghz  "This SAN/PLEX server will not be running much else" 

32GB DDR 4

24x  8TB WD REDS

1X  1TB SSD Cache 

PSU  EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2 220-G2-0850-XR 80+ GOLD 850W Fully Modular 

 

 

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1 minute ago, CSIG1001 said:

 

 

I ended up going with two Dell H310s got  both  for only  32.00  . so basically 16.00 ea  will reflash myself.  I just wanted an extra dont know why

 

also got a intel RAID Storage Controller RES2SV240 /  27.00 Shipped!

 

got me some reverse breakout cables for my Norco 4224 , 

 

Got one mini sas to mini sas cable for  5 bucks.

 

Norco 4224 case cost me about 335.00 newegg.

 

Will be running a Z270 , 7700k at 4.5 ghz  "This SAN/PLEX server will not be running much else" 

32GB DDR 4

24x  8TB WD REDS

1X  1TB SSD Cache 

PSU  EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2 220-G2-0850-XR 80+ GOLD 850W Fully Modular 

 

 

Those drives will cost a pretty penny!

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2 minutes ago, DoItMyselfToo said:

Those drives will cost a pretty penny!

 

already got them!

 

 

I guess Unraid get use a maximum of 2 drives for parity? in case  a drive fails?

 

The only other thing i can think of is getting a good UPS now

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11 minutes ago, CSIG1001 said:

 

already got them!

 

 

I guess Unraid get use a maximum of 2 drives for parity? in case  a drive fails?

 

The only other thing i can think of is getting a good UPS now

Yeah, 2 parity drives.  Definitely get a UPS.  The generally recommended brand is APC.  Though APC tends to be more expensive for sine wave units.  I found a number of other members here using the CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD unit.  So, I bought it through Staples with a coupon and got it for ~$150.  It works with unRAID.  I tested and it safely shuts my system down.

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33 minutes ago, DoItMyselfToo said:

Yeah, 2 parity drives.  Definitely get a UPS.  The generally recommended brand is APC.  Though APC tends to be more expensive for sine wave units.  I found a number of other members here using the CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD unit.  So, I bought it through Staples with a coupon and got it for ~$150.  It works with unRAID.  I tested and it safely shuts my system down.

i own the same UPS for gaming rig

 

i was thinking the same thing

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, DoItMyselfToo said:

Cool.  You going to post your build with pictures in the forum?

 

I can post them here but might take a few weeks...  I am going away in 2 weeks but i am thinking sometime end of july it should be completed when i get back.

 

I was thinking i could go free Nas and RAID but no ECC  and

The reason i like unraid is because all my disks wont be accessing when streaming since the data is not striped ,  and if you lose a disk and something awful happens where it cannot be restored i guess that data is only lost on that one disk if parity is lost ,  hopefully i dont have a backplane explode on me , since i heard Norco 4224 are awful .

 

I am still clueless what else i can do with unraid such as dockers and for my cache drives i can provide 2 ssds for cache 1tb ea.  Does unraid set these up for raid?  These SSDs will of course have to be plugged into my mobo.

 

other than that not sure what dockers are good and where do i find a listing of them beside plex.

 

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40 minutes ago, CSIG1001 said:

 

I can post them here but might take a few weeks...  I am going away in 2 weeks but i am thinking sometime end of july it should be completed when i get back.

 

I was thinking i could go free Nas and RAID but no ECC  and

The reason i like unraid is because all my disks wont be accessing when streaming since the data is not striped ,  and if you lose a disk and something awful happens where it cannot be restored i guess that data is only lost on that one disk if parity is lost ,  hopefully i dont have a backplane explode on me , since i heard Norco 4224 are awful .

 

I am still clueless what else i can do with unraid such as dockers and for my cache drives i can provide 2 ssds for cache 1tb ea.  Does unraid set these up for raid?  These SSDs will of course have to be plugged into my mobo.

 

other than that not sure what dockers are good and where do i find a listing of them beside plex.

 

I'm sure anything you share about your build will be great.  It gives others a chance to see what someone else did with their build.

 

With unRAID, after installing Community Applications, the apps tab is created and that's where the dockers and plugins can be found.  Then you just search by keyword for the kinds of applications you want.  Also, @gridrunner creates videos on various unRAID topics on his Youtube channel Spaceinvader One.  That's where I'd start.  As for the SSD cache, the default for two disks is a raid 1 (mirror) cache pool.

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got me some reverse breakout cables for my Norco 4224
 


If these are to go from the HBA or expander to backplane SATA ports you need forward breakout cables.

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3 hours ago, DoItMyselfToo said:

I'm sure anything you share about your build will be great.  It gives others a chance to see what someone else did with their build.

 

With unRAID, after installing Community Applications, the apps tab is created and that's where the dockers and plugins can be found.  Then you just search by keyword for the kinds of applications you want.  Also, @gridrunner creates videos on various unRAID topics on his Youtube channel Spaceinvader One.  That's where I'd start.  As for the SSD cache, the default for two disks is a raid 1 (mirror) cache pool.

 

Cool thanks for the headsup on the SSD cache pool , i bet it helps alot.. What type of reads and writes will i get   you think?

 

Also will subscribe to his channel thanks!

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1 hour ago, johnnie.black said:

If these are to go from the HBA or expander to backplane SATA ports you need forward breakout cables.

Its reverse i looked on reviews and forums what people have bought..

They are sata connections on the backplane ,  

 

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2 minutes ago, CSIG1001 said:

Its reverse i looked on reviews and forums what people have bought..

They are sata connections on the backplane ,  

 

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will wait until i get the case. looks like it might mini sas on the backplane now

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my card is the lsi 9210 card i think its a front port of the 9211 were the ports are near the back of the card if its in a case

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Just received my Norco 4224,  paid about 350.00 delivered..  Build quality seems ok for me , although  would have preferred a used supermicro case, could not find one that would suit me for under 400.00 with a decent backplane.

 

Had a few question I received TWO 2X ., Dell PERC H310 8-Port Internal 6Gb/s SAS/SATA RAID Controller HV52W

and a Intel RAID Storage Controller Res2sv240 E91267-203 SAS SATA 6gb 24 Port

 

I plan on using two 1TB SSDs as Cache drives , my Z270 , 32gb ram , 7700k Asrock Tachi has 6gbps sata ports, i belive the backplace is 12gbps sas 2.0

I plan on running Unraid with 24 , 8 TB drives using the two raid cards and my intel raid 24 port sas expander , giving me access to 32 hard drives 

As for the Unraid OS i am assuming this will be run off the USB stick and my cache drives can run off my dell 8x raid controller using the Sas forward breakout cables..  Or should i just do Sata to Sata  on the SSDs to the motherboard?


Since plex does not need a GPU I plan on using my onboard 7700k graphics, now maybe someone can give me some advice with plex  on here.  Do I need a dedicated grpaphics to transcode /or direct stream 10bit 4k UHD , talking 50+gb movies? If so i have a spare GTX 1080.  If i do this setup I will have to give my intel Sas expander dedicated 5v power and mount in the case somewhere.  I would prefer to do this to free up a PCI slot since the sas expander will not have a spot with a graphics card.  

 

attached is pictures of the Norco 4224 should six SAS ports, one of the  Dell HDD controller and my intel sas expander.

 

Thanks

 

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Forgot to mention I got a deal on ebay for the 2x dell raid controllers H310 which i will be flashing and the intel sas expander , all for 55.00 dollars. shipped ....

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I would just attach the cache drives directly to the SATA ports on the motherboard if you don't intend on using them for anything else.  I can see the Norco 4224's have come a fair way since I bought mine 6 years ago!  Those mounting bolts etc look like they are much better quality.

 

That being said, I haven't had a single issue with the case/backplanes etc in 6 years now, so all good!

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Like mentioned use the onboard SATA ports for the SSDs, as the H310 doesn't support trim.

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Thanks I will go ahead and order my sas cables and run the SSDs off the motherboard with Sata cables.. 

 

Makes sense  thanks johnnie

 

should i be concerned about buying sas cables on ebay that might be only 3gbps?

 

 

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I was going to go with Nocua 1300 pwms figured id save myself 42 bucks buying 3x fans then I found my 2xcougar fans 800-1500 RPM with anti vibration pads down in the basement, and will be using a 120mm corsair fan that lights up red.  The corsair fan is not as quiet as the cougar  but i am

sure this combo fan setup in the Norco 4224 will help with noise and airflow alot vs the stock fans which i heard were atrocious . I will leave the 80mm fans at the rear stock. Not too concerned about noise since this case will be in the  basement where it is cool and dry 

 

 

 

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The stock fans are actually amazing for airflow, they are just noisy as all hell.  If you don't care about noise, I wouldn't bother switching them out.

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12 hours ago, BetaQuasi said:

The stock fans are actually amazing for airflow, they are just noisy as all hell.  If you don't care about noise, I wouldn't bother switching them out.

 

 

Its ok because i have to take out the fan bracket when i run my cables.  I have left over 120mm fans which are quieter and produce better airflow.  

Just ordered Six 32" SAS cables for 24.00 shipped..  Not bad ,  will have alot of extra cable and will just zip tie them off.  15 inch cables in the norco were kinda short, 

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Update looks like i will be using a i8700 paired with a Classified FTW ,  my 850+gold psu and a Hyper 212x,.  Should net me a higher cpu passmark for plex even at stock speeds vs  a 7700k at 4.7 ghz,

Is there any reason unraid would need a beefy video card  other than to help plex transcode?

 

The super nova 650 will be sold and will use the 240 rad in a different pc build in the future.  What a deal 219.00 shipped to the house.

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