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Network Topology Question

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I posted this on the pfSense forum but figured I would do the same here since there are MANY knowledgeable individuals.  :)

 

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Hello All.

 

I have what I hope is a simple question.  In my little brain it seems simple but I am seeing some activity that confuses me...

 

I will preface all of this by saying that all wireless devices *seem* to be operating normally (receiving IPs, internet connectivity, intranet connectivity, etc.)

 

I replaced my wired/wireless router (http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=205_TEW-639GR&cat=166) with a pfSense box about a month and it has been working flawlessly.  My pfSense has only 2 NICs...LAN and WAN...as I do nto need a DMZ and teh LAN port is connected to a 16 port unmanaged Gbit switch (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817111213).

 

I wanted to use my existing router as a wireless access point so I turned off DHCP, Port Forwarding, etc on it. I then connected it to the same switch via a CAT6 patch cable (not crossed) via one of the LAN ports on that router.  One point to note:  thsi wired/wireless router does not have an uplink port...only a WAN and 4 LANs.

 

Just to provide a visual, I created the image below to show the current setup:

 

wireless.jpg

 

My issue:  When the wireless router is connected to the switch, it causes constant network traffic.  All of the ports on the 16 port switch constantly blink (for any live devices).  If I disconnect the wireless router, the traffic stops.

 

Is this normal?  I assume not since I have never seen it before.  I really didn't think it was causing an issue on my network until I DL'd something from the newsgroups.  I can normally max out my connection at ~1.72MB/s and it is rock steady.  With the wireless router connected to the switch, my bandwidth monitor (Newsleecher for anyone who cares) has alot of peaks and valleys...1.3MB/s up to 1.7MB/s...up and down constantly.

 

So...if this is not normal behavior this begs the question:  should I be using a crossover cable between the switch and the wireless access point?  That is the only solution I have come up with thus far but don't have a crossover readily available.  I can make one easily enough, but figured I would ask first.

 

TIA for any help provided!!!

 

John

I've seen this extra behaviour on one of my corporate customers' LANs.  It was caused by a faulty cable.  I would systematically check/swap each cable in the solution.  Reduce everything down to the minimal and try to get a working solution, then step by step add bits (cables etc) back in until the problem resurfaces.  It might be that simple, or it might be something else entirely.

A crossover shouldn't be necessary.

 

Wireshark should be able to capture the traffic and some googling will probably tell you what it is.

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I'll get Wireshark going when I get home.

 

Just had a thought...

 

All of the discussion about Dells and auto-discovery.  Could that be a factor?  My wife's laptop is a Dell.  Do they talk THAT MUCH?  I mean my switch and wireless AP are going bonkers.

 

John

If the traffic is being sent to all ports..... then I imagine it is some kind of broadcast,  which would fit with auto discovery of some sort.

 

Careful about posting wireshark output on-line.... its very easy to post something you don't want to if you don't filter it carefully.

I'll get Wireshark going when I get home.

 

Just had a thought...

 

All of the discussion about Dells and auto-discovery.  Could that be a factor?  My wife's laptop is a Dell.  Do they talk THAT MUCH?  I mean my switch and wireless AP are going bonkers.

 

John

 

 

Turn the Dell off and see if it goes away.

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Posted this on pfSense forums....

 

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Actually, mystery solved.

 

I ended up looking at my DHCP leases and found one that I did not recognize:  192.168.1.101.  I got the corresponding MAC with a ARP - a command and blocked that MAC on my wireless router.

 

Out of curiosity, I looked up that MAC to see who the vendor is:

 

Search results for "00:1E:8F:5A:0A:EE"

Prefix Vendor

001E8F CANON INC.

 

LMAO!  I just blocked the wireless card in my color printer (Canon MP640).  Man was that thing friggin chatty!!!  I think I may just leave it blocked (or turn off wireless on it) as I have it connected via USB.

 

Anyway, thanks for the help guys!

 

John

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