Unraid support hardware

[feins]

I’m thinking of going to upgrade my current build to lower the power consumption.

At mean time I’m running unraid on my Lenovo Thinkstation P500 with 9 drive in total and 128gb of ddr4 ECC Ram. HBA card, And Xeon E5-2698-V3 processor and P2000 GPU, as now idle with 8drive spin down and nearly 0 CPU activity, GPU idle mode I had a power consumption around 100-130W.

 

I’ve been searching around on the forum but can’t find the answer that I’m looking for as what’s the latest processor that unraid support so I won’t get the wrong processor as I notice previously someone mention that the 12-13gen Intel cpu are not recommended.

Can someone recommend some hardware for me to go about.

Thanks in advance.

 

 

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[Lolight]

2 hours ago, feins said:

I’m thinking of going to upgrade my current build to lower the power consumption.

Are you going all new hardware, including the case?

 

12-13 gen are fully supported.

[feins]

Are you going all new hardware, including the case?
 
12-13 gen are fully supported.

I got a Coolermaster Cosmos Storm.
It’s a pretty old casing but it’s still a very good case.
Compare to the gen9-13 which processor you would prefer?


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[Lolight]

14 hours ago, feins said:

Compare to the gen9-13 which processor you would prefer?

Depends on your use case.

If buying new or used only for media streaming (no VMs):

 

New:

multiple stream 4K transcoding in Plex, Jellyfin or Emby - the i5 12500 (non-F SKU) selected for its more powerful iGPU.

direct play or light transcoding - the i3 12100 (non-F)

 

Used:

Any Intel Core non-F 10th gen. (same iGPU across the product line).

Edited August 17, 2023 by Lolight

[feins]

10 hours ago, Lolight said:

Depends on your use case.

If buying new or used only for media streaming (no VMs):

 

New:

multiple stream 4K transcoding in Plex, Jellyfin or Emby - the i5 12500 (non-F SKU) selected for its more powerful iGPU.

direct play or light transcoding - the i3 12100 (non-F)

 

Used:

Any Intel Core non-F 10th gen. (same iGPU across the product line).

I dont mind New or Used.

 

Basically the most important is for Plex 4K HDR Transcoding with Dolby TrueHD Dolby Atmos.

Most of the time its been idle or direct play/Stream, the transcode only for mobile device to save data or sometime just dont know why Plex just transcode for no reason.

As now each month 80% of the electricity bill are from here as can see while the server idling at 100+W as such was thinking a efficiency wat to reduce it is the most important.

Was thinking of going new which going to spend a few thousand or trying to source something a gen generation back but still give similar result would be fine.

I only know that the recent gen 13 i5 are very efficient CPU with quite some data floating around that it drawn very min amount of power during idling but i cant find any data regarding the Gen 9 to Gen 12 Processor's actual idle power consumption. As if can get the Gen9 processor that had the same idling power that will save quite a amount as there are alot of used processor and board on line.

 

[Lolight]

13 hours ago, feins said:

but i cant find any data regarding the Gen 9 to Gen 12 Processor's actual idle power consumption.

I'd say they have very similar idle efficiency, in general.

But there are ways to optimize a particular system for maximum savings.

 

But it's more of a try-n-see endeavor due to the unlimited variety of hardware configurations.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI/edit#gid=0

 

You might want to check this thread:

 

 

Edited August 18, 2023 by Lolight

[feins]

I'd say they have very similar idle efficiency, in general.
But there are ways to optimize a particular system for maximum savings.
 
But it's more of a try-n-see endeavor due to the unlimited variety of hardware configurations.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI/edit#gid=0
 
You might want to check this thread:
 
 

Thanks for the info.
I’ve tried powertop before but it screw up the system more than reduce power consumption. So I’ve remove powertop at the end after trying to tweak it but fail to get it stable.


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[Lolight]

3 hours ago, feins said:

I’ve tried powertop before but it screw up the system more than reduce power consumption. So I’ve remove powertop at the end after trying to tweak it but fail to get it stable.

In many cases manually tweaking BIOS settings might yield significant idle power savings, like enabling the motherboard's power saving mode, enabling all available CPU C-States, disabling unused circuitry and setting PCIE DMI power saving to enabled.

[feins]

On 8/18/2023 at 4:49 PM, Lolight said:

In many cases manually tweaking BIOS settings might yield significant idle power savings, like enabling the motherboard's power saving mode, enabling all available CPU C-States, disabling unused circuitry and setting PCIE DMI power saving to enabled.

Lenovo Bios already enable Power saving mode disable any peripheral thats not in used like sound device serial and PS2 port.

That's why was thinking to get something newer most likely will have better efficiency, since most of the time the server are under idle mode just Radarr and Sonarr are running at the back. Just that donno which one should go for also need to think of RoI as well.

[Lolight]

2 hours ago, feins said:

That's why was thinking to get something newer most likely will have better efficiency

Well, the newer consumer tech will be more efficient, there shouldn't be any doubt about that.

 

I don't know your exact system setup, but If you're real concerned about power efficiency and want to achieve maximum power savings then you should try to build a system that doesn't contain any add-on cards.

 

There's an unlimited variety of hardware combinations - impossible to say which will provide the best results without trying.

Check out the thread below.

It's a long thread, but there are numerous examples of what hardware tends to deliver better results.

Also provides general idea about electricity consumption for most common for NAS add-on cards and dGPUs and why they should be avoided.

Also talks about PSUs effeiciency and why they shouldn't be overlooked.

 

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by Lolight

[feins]

58 minutes ago, Lolight said:

Well, the newer consumer tech will be more efficient, there shouldn't be any doubt about that.

 

I don't know your exact system setup, but If you're real concerned about power efficiency and want to achieve maximum power savings then you should try to build a system that doesn't contain any add-on cards.

 

There's an unlimited variety of hardware combinations - impossible to say which will provide the best results without trying.

Check out the thread below.

It's a long thread, but there are numerous examples of what hardware tends to deliver better results.

Also provides general idea about electricity consumption for most common for NAS add-on cards and dGPUs and why they should be avoided.

Also talks about PSUs effeiciency and why they shouldn't be overlooked.

 

 

Yes i totally understand about add on card that's why at mean time my Xeon Processor doesn't come with an iGPU as such i notice that my P2000 in idle status still drawn 8W of power. HBA card i don't think there will be avoid as there wont have any board that come with more than 6 Sata port at mean time. So far this Lenovo P500 come with a 80+ Gold PSU. I understand that PSU effeciency does take into account.

My system is actually a Stock Lenovo P500 Workstation pretty standard come with 128Gb of DDR4 ECC Ram a 16core Xeon E5-2698-V3, 490W 80+ Gold Lenovo PSU. The only additional item that i add in is a LSI SAS 9207 HBA, Nvidia P2000 and Intel X520-T2 10Gb Nic Card. There are a total of 7 Drive and 2 SSD a total of 9 Drive at the moment.

[Raptor]

recently I've change my home server from i5-11600 (set to 65W limit), 32GB DDR4 to 7600X (set 88W limit), 64GB DDR5 (6 HDD drives, SAS controller, 2 NVMe drives on intel, after upgrade 3 NVMe on AMD) 

 

on server I'm running some VM, game servers, Emby (GPU transcoding) 

 

At standard load <20%, 2 drive spin-up 11600 took 140-160W from wall,  7600X same conditions 80-85W 

 

Right now unraid making parity check, all drives running - it takes ~125W from socket, when I put CPU on full load everything consume 168W 

 

 

 

[Lolight]

17 hours ago, feins said:

HBA card i don't think there will be avoid as there wont have any board that come with more than 6 Sata port at mean time. So far this Lenovo P500 come with a 80+ Gold PSU. I understand that PSU effeciency does take into account.

The only additional item that i add in is a LSI SAS 9207 HBA, Nvidia P2000 and Intel X520-T2 10Gb Nic Card. There are a total of 7 Drive and 2 SSD a total of 9 Drive at the moment.

There is a choice of ATX boards with 8 SATA ports.

Some newer PSUs are remarkably more efficient - there's quite a bit of talk about them at the end of the thread linked above.

Lots of motherboards now come with the built-in 2.5 Gigabit LAN

You can use M.2 NVMe SSDs to free up motherboard SATA ports.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Edited August 20, 2023 by Lolight

[feins]

There is a choice of ATX boards with 8 SATA ports.
Some newer PSUs are remarkably more efficient - there's quite a bit of talk about them at the end of the thread linked above.
Lots of motherboards now come with the built-in 2.5 Gigabit LAN
You can use M.2 NVMe SSDs to free up motherboard SATA ports.
 
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Noted yes. New board starting to include 2.5gb nic. Not many review that actually mention about idling power. Because few mth back I help a fren to setup his unraid where he use his old Intel gen4 Core i5 4670, Asus mobo, 32gb Ram HBA card and 8HDD and his 1200W Silverstone 80+ Platinum PSU. And a Silverstone TJ07 casing. He has his roon core running 24/7 and Plex. With most of the time Plex transcoding CPU running near 100% with an impressive 70+W of power usage and idling at 30+W full system.


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