p1lot Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I really need a UPS for my unRaid-server now, but I have no idea what to get. I have a 15-drive build similar to that recommended by Raj. Right now 10 disks are in it, but I definitely plan on upgrading to 15 some time. Here is a list of what's available to me in my country: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?pg=13&cat=gehups&sort=eintr&xf=1494_APC#xf_top Thank you, p1lot Link to comment
BRiT Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 APC brand should be the only brand you consider for ease of use with power monitor plugins. Link to comment
p1lot Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 i included in my link only the apc listing, but i don't know how strong it has to be. i don't need anything fancy, just one that is able to automaticall power the server down once a power outage has been detected. Link to comment
Rajahal Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I use this one: APC Power-Saving Back-UPS Pro 700 ...but it isn't on your list. This one will definitely work: APC Back-UPS Pro 900VA, USB (BR900GI) It is overpowered for what you need, but it will work. This one should also work: APC Smart-UPS X 750VA Rack/Tower 2U, USB/seriell (SMX750I) If you have a low powered server, then you might be able to use this one: APC Back-UPS Pro 550VA, USB (BR550GI) That might be cutting it too close. You would need to test your server's power consumption during a boot up and power down to make sure you don't exceed 550VA. Hope that helps! Link to comment
p1lot Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 Thanks Raj! As I will add 5 more harddrives and want to be on the safe side, I just ordered the Back-UPS Pro 900VA, the Smart-UPS X 750VA is definitely overkill. Link to comment
Johnm Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 one thing to keep in mind. UPS batteries tend to degrade rather quickly, especially if you have had some outages where the UPS when active for a period of time. It is better to buy one slightly to large then one just right or "might not be quite enough". also, it might be nice to put your router and switch on it. In about 3 years, that "to big of one" with degrade to "just right". A fact of UPS's, you have have to buy batteries or a new ups every 2-5 years depending on conditions. if the price to next size up is just a few bucks, it will be worth it down the road. Link to comment
p1lot Posted October 13, 2011 Author Share Posted October 13, 2011 OK, so do you think the one I bought (Back-UPS Pro 900VA) fulfills the criteria you just mentioned? I am basically running Raj's 15 drive build + will also connect the switch and router to it. Link to comment
Johnm Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 OK, so do you think the one I bought (Back-UPS Pro 900VA) fulfills the criteria you just mentioned? I am basically running Raj's 15 drive build + will also connect the switch and router to it. yeah. thats a good pick. you will probably get a good 15 min battery life on that unit.... give or a take a little based on your exact specs and drive status. I am running the 1300VA flavor with 2x 24 drive builds on it. once you get it, install the "clean shutdown" package and "APCUPSD" package. Both are in unMENU... Link to comment
speeding_ant Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Just picked up an IBM rebranded APC SMART-UPS 750va. It powers both my media center (core i3) and unRAID server (7 drives) for an hour. Pretty impressed! Link to comment
Beer40oz Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Do you guys recommend to have two UPS systems one for your unRAID rig and one for your htpc/pc? Or is it ok to have the pc (router,switch,monitor) and the unRAID rig together? Then what would recommend me for my pc that has a 400W PSU and my unRAID (only 10 HD's) rig that has a 520W PSU . Thank you. If not then just get two of this: APC BR700G 700 VA 450 Watts 6 Outlets http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101381 One for the unRAID and one for my PC ? Link to comment
Johnm Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 that is almost to generic of a question. Without knowing the actual power draw of your systems, it is impossible to tell. The PSU raiting is not what the PC consumes. it is how much power the PSU CAN supply. you could put a 250watt PSU on an atom PC and draw only 30 watts from the wall. you could also put a 1200 watt PSU on the same sytem and it would still draw close to 30 watts from the wall (yes there would be a slight difference due to the optimized power consumption/output, but for this example we don't care) an atom based HTPC vs an I7-extreme HTPC would be a huge power difference. You might be ok though based on the consumer average... you could buy one now, get it and see if you need a second one? one thing to keep in mind, these consumer UPS's will only shut down ONE PC in a power failure. you have to either run (free) 3rd party software or or let one just .... crash! (please save the server) that should not be to hard to do if one of the computers is on 24x7 Link to comment
speeding_ant Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Start with one UPS, and run with computer on full load one at a time. Most UPS's will show load and watts used. If the full load (think spin-up all disks for unRAID, and stress test on the HTPC) is a total of 60% or less, may as well run both computers from the one UPS. Can you get APCUPSD to trigger scripts? If the HTPC is *nix then you could trigger a script come shutdown that will remotely turn it off from unRAID server. Link to comment
Beer40oz Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Case: LIAN LI PC-V352 CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 840 3.2GHz 95W Mobo: ASRock 880GM-LE AM3 Memory: Crucial 4GB 1333 KHX1600C9D3X1K2/8GX GPU: MSI GeForce GT 430 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PSU: Antec NEO ECO 400w HD: Seagate Barracuda 7200 for OS So basically it does not draw much power. Well at the moment I can just try one and see how much watts its drawing with the PC and the server. But down the road I will be moving down the server to another location so I will need an extra UPS for it. I am glad that the server will shut off cleanly with the UPS system btw. Link to comment
Johnm Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I am glad that the server will shut off cleanly with the UPS system btw. Install the APCUPSD package in unmenu. I believe there is now a plug-in for 5B11 and newer also. Link to comment
lionelhutz Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Just to note - APCUPSD can be installed on both Unix and Windows machines and the installs can be set to communicate back to the PC with the UPS communications cable connected (server/client type of arrangement). This allows multiple PC's to be properly shut-down on UPS power. Peter Link to comment
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