I am not a stupid man, i know quite a bit and i am a windows man, but more and more i am being sucked into linux to get the things i want.

 

With windows i can read, digest and apply, its what i know, using UNraid is to know linux and i cant even understand the most simplest things that people tell me, i managed to install packages to the server, run screen, pre clear the drives just by reading the manual, since then its all gone to pot, ill ask a question, how do i do blah blah blah, i get an answer you need to chmod x/r -p (that probably means nothing).. i then have to ask what is meant by that, i can understand thats frustrating to people..IM A NOOB AGAIN !! its equally frustrating for me. Can i learn enough of linux to get me helping myself with UNraid or do i need to know how to code and the like, can any of you suggest a good place to start reading, or a book i can buy and sit and read...i dont want to start running ubuntu on all my pcs or write software, i just want to know enough that i can build on, i just dont know where to start, in the forum you will see it littered with my posts probably asking such stupid questions, i get an answer and then have to ask whats meant by that.

 

I taught myself how to solder, i can desolder TSOP chips, reprogramme them and resolder, i can do it because i know how...i can learn UNraid as well but i need a starting point, i dont want to just rely on people telling me what to type, i want to UNDERSTAND what i am typing and what its doing.

 

TIA

I learned how to get my way around unRAID by reading stuff here and google.  If you do a google search for the command you are looking for you should find a lot of things.  i.e. search "man chmod" and it will bring you to the manual page for chmod.  Rinse and repeat for other commands.

Loady - I sympathise.  I have been where you have with the hardware stuff - including the TSSOPs, etc.  I have also done my share of programming in the past - Assembler and C mostly.  But finding my way around Linux (actually, stumbling would be a better word) is like none of those things.  I'll get flamed for saying it, but at a simplistic level it's a bit like DOS, but with loads of clever stuff on top.  To answer your question "is to know linux to know how to code and program ?? " - No, it's different.  And I know that I have only scratched the surface.  As Prostuff1 suggests, you can get a hell of a long way with internet searches.  One of my frequent ones is "linux vi help" for example - but there's literally heaps of good info out there, it just takes a bit of sorting through. 

 

I recently built my second unRAID server, mainly as a backup tool for the first one, and I was pretty much able to put together a simple script to manage the backup from one to the other by scratching around.  I couldn't do much else though without reading a load more help pages.  Give it time, and don't be afraid to ask - you're not, clearly, and that's good.

Funny, I was going to say "it's kinda like a mult-tasking dos".  but it's not.

 

If you remember desqview, MS-DOS or are familiar with the windows CMD prompt, you can pick up unix.

 

Linux is just a flavor of unix.

 

You don't need to program to know unix. You need to know some basics, so a linux for dummies book would help.

 

When I started I came from a mainframe, then to a Digital VMS system, then to SCO Unix.

All along I was familiar with DOS and CP/M, then eventually OS/2 and Windows.

They all have command processors and specifics about them.

 

About the only programming you might want to learn is bash.

So an orielly book on bash would be helpful.

 

Just for the record, this has to be one of the nicest communities around.

People rarely get flamed for asking questions. So ask, but don't be surprised if someone says, do a google search on chmod for better explanation.

The command for manual pages in unix is "man"

 

unRAID does not have manual pages for the unix commands, but "google" does. :-)

 

To learn about the copy command, for example:  The command is "cp," to see its manual page type

"man cp unix" into google.  You'll get several sites with the command syntax.  To see how to use the "man" command, (the manual command) type:

"man man unix"

into google.

The way I learned is well like programming in basic.

I just typed out what I wanted to do step by step then started to learn how to do each step in linux.

 

Next thing you know you are taking 5 lines of code and putting them together and doing it in 1 single line of code faster and more efficient.

The way I learned is well like programming in basic.

I just typed out what I wanted to do step by step then started to learn how to do each step in linux.

 

Next thing you know you are taking 5 lines of code and putting them together and doing it in 1 single line of code faster and more efficient.

 

Excellent way to break it down.

I learn by example, I read everyone's code I can.  The internet has been my greatest resource!

Thanks for all the tips guys, yes this forum is deffo more friendly than some i have used (QNAP), I dont want to be spoonfed because that way i learn nothing but in some places i ask for help but dont really get an answer to solve the problem, if i do i can then see why it now works and why it didnt before and then go from there. A big problem i am having at the moment is getting my head round mnt/user and when to apply it.

 

I used to do some VERY basic programming when i was 14 in basic on my zx spectrum 48k !!!...

 

10 PRINT "kev is the don"

20 GOTO 10

 

LOL..... from there i discovered i could add a flashing border, and BEEP, i remember buying magazines that would have programs you could write, i would spend hours typing in lines of basic..happy days !!

 

BTW, weebotech..still cant get your 10gbreadwrite thingy to go 

Loady, I split the topic and merged the two relevant messages to your other topic for consistency of subject matter.

 

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=18019.msg162425#msg162425