Riverhawk Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I think I may be in over my head, but it should be a good learning experience. I've built a couple pc's in the past, but have never done any type of rack setup. I bought a huge rack on craigslist(I currently have no idea how to perform cable management, supply power, cooling ). I've done some research and I'm sold on UnRaid. I need my rig to safely store and serve up HD(eventually 4K) videos to multiple HTPCs connected to Tvs, music to Sonos, store/serve X amount of days worth of HD home security cams. I think I want to go with Xen(Unraid 6.0) since I would like to use some VMs. When looking at similar setups/budgets I see people going with 16GB Ram, Norco cages, Xeon processors, 512GB SSD cache. Since I'm kinda clueless, I would need help on picking compatible components that meet my needs/budget. Thanks in advance! Budget: $1500-1800 # of Drives: 4x4TB WD Reds(one for parity), ???MB SSD for Cache Expandability: Important...isn't that a huge feature of UnRaid(takes on all sizes of new drives)? AddOns: Plex for remote use or non-HTPC connected devices like tablets/phones, SickBeard, AddOn or VM to store/manage/serve HD security camera feeds, VM for home automation(not sure about this...I may want to buy/build a small Atom/i3 ShuttlePC if I don't have enough juice in the CPU/RAM. Quote Link to comment
wgstarks Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm sure everyone has their own favorites, I really like the Rosewill RSV-L4412 case. You can see my build on the link in my sig. This is a newer version than mine, but appears to be basically the same. The case is rack mountable (slide rails sold separately) 12 bay so you would have lots of room for expansion. What you get depends a lot on what you think you will be needing in 6 or 8 years I believe. Whatever you choose you should also provide a UPS system for it if you don't already have one. Quote Link to comment
Riverhawk Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 Looks nice. Now I just need some help getting the right guts for it. Quote Link to comment
Amerzel Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Anyone know what the differences between the Rosewill RSV-L4411 and Rosewill RSV-L4412 are? The 4411 is $50 cheaper but I haven't been able to find anything stating their differences. Quote Link to comment
wgstarks Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I couldn't spot any difference between the 4412 and mine, maybe they just upgraded the price. You might try emailing Rosewill tech support- [email protected] if you don't get any answers here. Quote Link to comment
Squid Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I couldn't spot any difference between the 4412 and mine, maybe they just upgraded the price. You might try emailing Rosewill tech support- [email protected] if you don't get any answers here. It looks like they've updated the backplane to also support SAS drives Quote Link to comment
wgstarks Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I missed that. Your right though. The 4411 is SATA only. Quote Link to comment
Riverhawk Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 Good info on the case. I'll probably stick to the cheaper sata version. Now if I can get some component guidance/suggestions I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment
ntrlsur Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I think I may be in over my head, but it should be a good learning experience. I've built a couple pc's in the past, but have never done any type of rack setup. I bought a huge rack on craigslist(I currently have no idea how to perform cable management, supply power, cooling ). I've done some research and I'm sold on UnRaid. I need my rig to safely store and serve up HD(eventually 4K) videos to multiple HTPCs connected to Tvs, music to Sonos, store/serve X amount of days worth of HD home security cams. I think I want to go with Xen(Unraid 6.0) since I would like to use some VMs. When looking at similar setups/budgets I see people going with 16GB Ram, Norco cages, Xeon processors, 512GB SSD cache. Since I'm kinda clueless, I would need help on picking compatible components that meet my needs/budget. Thanks in advance! Budget: $1500-1800 # of Drives: 4x4TB WD Reds(one for parity), ???MB SSD for Cache Expandability: Important...isn't that a huge feature of UnRaid(takes on all sizes of new drives)? AddOns: Plex for remote use or non-HTPC connected devices like tablets/phones, SickBeard, AddOn or VM to store/manage/serve HD security camera feeds, VM for home automation(not sure about this...I may want to buy/build a small Atom/i3 ShuttlePC if I don't have enough juice in the CPU/RAM. I ended up going with this Motherboard and this processor. The board is vt-d compliant and so is the processor so you can pass through hardware if you want. I run 3 VM's (windows server,Debian,CentOS) along with 10 drives with unraid as Dom0 with plenty of horsepower. I also picked up a AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 from here. The motherboard has 2 x16 slots so with 1 AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 and the 6 onboard SataII connections you should have plenty of bandwith for disks. If you get that rosewill case it only has 12 hd slots. The only downside is that you would need a video card since the board doesn't support it. You can be up and running with this list plus 4 4tb reds and 16 gig of ram and a video card(PCI) for about 1k. The above is what I put in my machine i built a few weeks ago minus the 4Tb drives and I run a cooler master case. Quote Link to comment
Riverhawk Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 I ended up going with this Motherboard and this processor. The board is vt-d compliant and so is the processor so you can pass through hardware if you want. I run 3 VM's (windows server,Debian,CentOS) along with 10 drives with unraid as Dom0 with plenty of horsepower. I also picked up a AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 from here. The motherboard has 2 x16 slots so with 1 AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 and the 6 onboard SataII connections you should have plenty of bandwith for disks. If you get that rosewill case it only has 12 hd slots. The only downside is that you would need a video card since the board doesn't support it. You can be up and running with this list plus 4 4tb reds and 16 gig of ram and a video card(PCI) for about 1k. The above is what I put in my machine i built a few weeks ago minus the 4Tb drives and I run a cooler master case. Any reason why you went with the AMD as opposed to the Xeon that I see people using in the "compulsive" section? I'm kind of an Intel guy(for no real reason). If someone wants to throw together a PCpartpicker list it would be much appreciated(vt-d mobo, cpu, psu, ssd cache drive, ram, etc). Learning this stuff is slow moving when real life is in the way. Quote Link to comment
ntrlsur Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I went with AMD for the cost savings. I typically build my unraid boxes with AMD's and my desktops with intel. No way I could find a 6 core intel at 3.5ghz for 110 bucks.. Quote Link to comment
mostlydave Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I think I may be in over my head, but it should be a good learning experience. I've built a couple pc's in the past, but have never done any type of rack setup. I bought a huge rack on craigslist(I currently have no idea how to perform cable management, supply power, cooling ). I've done some research and I'm sold on UnRaid. I need my rig to safely store and serve up HD(eventually 4K) videos to multiple HTPCs connected to Tvs, music to Sonos, store/serve X amount of days worth of HD home security cams. I think I want to go with Xen(Unraid 6.0) since I would like to use some VMs. When looking at similar setups/budgets I see people going with 16GB Ram, Norco cages, Xeon processors, 512GB SSD cache. Since I'm kinda clueless, I would need help on picking compatible components that meet my needs/budget. Thanks in advance! Budget: $1500-1800 # of Drives: 4x4TB WD Reds(one for parity), ???MB SSD for Cache Expandability: Important...isn't that a huge feature of UnRaid(takes on all sizes of new drives)? AddOns: Plex for remote use or non-HTPC connected devices like tablets/phones, SickBeard, AddOn or VM to store/manage/serve HD security camera feeds, VM for home automation(not sure about this...I may want to buy/build a small Atom/i3 ShuttlePC if I don't have enough juice in the CPU/RAM. I ended up going with this Motherboard and this processor. The board is vt-d compliant and so is the processor so you can pass through hardware if you want. I run 3 VM's (windows server,Debian,CentOS) along with 10 drives with unraid as Dom0 with plenty of horsepower. I also picked up a AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 from here. The motherboard has 2 x16 slots so with 1 AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 and the 6 onboard SataII connections you should have plenty of bandwith for disks. If you get that rosewill case it only has 12 hd slots. The only downside is that you would need a video card since the board doesn't support it. You can be up and running with this list plus 4 4tb reds and 16 gig of ram and a video card(PCI) for about 1k. The above is what I put in my machine i built a few weeks ago minus the 4Tb drives and I run a cooler master case. Would this CPU and board combo handle running 1 windows vm inside unaraid as a htpc? I currently run a server and a small low power htpc in my living room but I'd like to consolidate that into 1 box if possible. Quote Link to comment
ntrlsur Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Ohh yeah. I run the same combo with 3 vm's. 1 windows 2 linux based. should be plenty of power for it. Quote Link to comment
Chris Pollard Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 What about the Norco 4224 for the case? Popular choice. I'm running two very similar rigs, probably rebadged since Norco don't distribute in the UK. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219038&cm_re=norco_4u-_-11-219-038-_-Product Quote Link to comment
ntrlsur Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 What about the Norco 4224 for the case? Popular choice. I'm running two very similar rigs, probably rebadged since Norco don't distribute in the UK. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219038&cm_re=norco_4u-_-11-219-038-_-Product Lots of folks here run the 4224 and like it. I haven't seen any bad reviews on it. Quote Link to comment
grandprix Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 Just make sure you have the newer backplanes in it BEFORE you begin the build. http://wsyntax.com/cs/killer-norco-case/ Quote Link to comment
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