viperdiver Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 So I have unRAID up and working like a champ. My house is wired, but I haven't used it yet. I'd like to move my unRAID box into a back room, but I need to get the patch panel working. Here's my problem: I have an On-Q 1x12 module (https://www.legrand.us/onq/structured-wiring/voice-distribution/voice-modules/363484-02.aspx#.VYrTX_lVjqQ) It is completely wired with 568A ethernet cat 5e (if this sentence doesn't make sense you probably can't help me). There is no cable going to the line-in input (just a bunch of 568A wired cables from the 12 ports to terminals in my house). I have a Motorola 1641 cable modem. Here are my questions: Should the ethernet cable FROM my 1641 modem TO the line-in of the patch panel be 568A, 568B, or a crossover? Should the ethernet cables FROM the terminal outlets throughout my house TO the equipment (unRAID box, wi fi router, HTPC, laptop, etc) be 568A, 568B, or crossover? Thanks! Link to comment
Alex.vision Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 568A or 568B shouldn't matter as long as all devices are wired the same. Most installers that I know including myself use the B method. But it shouldn't make a difference really. A is more common in residential and B is more prevalent in commercial applications. The modems line to the patch panel should be electrically similar to the other lines. So in your case 568A. Make sure that both ends of the cable are wired the same. That should do it. Does your modem have dhcp/ switching functions? Some modems will only output one ip to one device. Link to comment
Helmonder Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 568A or 568B shouldn't matter as long as all devices are wired the same. Most installers that I know including myself use the B method. But it shouldn't make a difference really. A is more common in residential and B is more prevalent in commercial applications. The modems line to the patch panel should be electrically similar to the other lines. So in your case 568A. Make sure that both ends of the cable are wired the same. That should do it. Does your modem have dhcp/ switching functions? Some modems will only output one ip to one device. In which case you would need a router. Link to comment
viperdiver Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 Sounds like my problem. Pretty sure my cables except the patch panel are all B. I'll switch all to A and see how that goes since the panel is already wired. Thanks! Link to comment
viperdiver Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 568A or 568B shouldn't matter as long as all devices are wired the same. Most installers that I know including myself use the B method. But it shouldn't make a difference really. A is more common in residential and B is more prevalent in commercial applications. The modems line to the patch panel should be electrically similar to the other lines. So in your case 568A. Make sure that both ends of the cable are wired the same. That should do it. Does your modem have dhcp/ switching functions? Some modems will only output one ip to one device. OK. So turns out the piece I have is telecom only. No networking. Boo. So I am buying a switch. Setup will be modem (motorolo sb1641) to router (linksys e2000) to switch (tp-link tl-sg1008d). However I don't want my wireless access point in the switch location (across the house from where I use it). So can I hook up another router (second e2000) to one of the ports in the house connected to the switch? Can I also use ports on the router as a cascaded switch? Is it all plug and play or are there pitfalls I should be aware of. Thanks again. Link to comment
JonathanM Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 However I don't want my wireless access point in the switch location (across the house from where I use it). Does the location that you want to have the wireless have 2 network drops? If so, connect the first drop from the modem to the WAN port on the router, and the second drop from one of the LAN router ports back to the switch at the patch panel. You can also use the other LAN ports on the router for PC's at that location. When I wire a house or spec the wire, I always run a minimum of 2 drops to each spot, typically 4 drops and leave 2 unterminated for later use or spares if something happens. Wire is cheap compared to labor of running it, and it generally takes almost the same amount of time. Link to comment
viperdiver Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 However I don't want my wireless access point in the switch location (across the house from where I use it). Does the location that you want to have the wireless have 2 network drops? If so, connect the first drop from the modem to the WAN port on the router, and the second drop from one of the LAN router ports back to the switch at the patch panel. You can also use the other LAN ports on the router for PC's at that location. When I wire a house or spec the wire, I always run a minimum of 2 drops to each spot, typically 4 drops and leave 2 unterminated for later use or spares if something happens. Wire is cheap compared to labor of running it, and it generally takes almost the same amount of time. I think there are 2 drops. So you're saying to plug both drops into the router (the one not near the switch but across the house by the 2 drops) ... One wan ('Internet in') and one lan (one of the 4)? Just to make sure I understand you. And the router by the switch (where the modem is plugged into the 'Internet in') still just has a lan port connected to the switch? Link to comment
JonathanM Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 However I don't want my wireless access point in the switch location (across the house from where I use it). Does the location that you want to have the wireless have 2 network drops? If so, connect the first drop from the modem to the WAN port on the router, and the second drop from one of the LAN router ports back to the switch at the patch panel. You can also use the other LAN ports on the router for PC's at that location. I think there are 2 drops. So you're saying to plug both drops into the router (the one not near the switch but across the house by the 2 drops) No. Move the router from the wiring closet near the switch to the spot where you want wireless. I'm not talking about adding a second router. Connect the drop that goes to the WAN port on the router to the modem in the wiring closet, and the drop that goes to the LAN port on the router to the switch in the wiring closet. The drops are labeled as to which one is which, correct? If not, you will have to figure it out by process of elimination. Perhaps it will help you to visualize each drop as just an ethernet extension cord, you are just plugging in the equipment exactly as it is right now, but with two very long cables with female ends and a couple short male extensions at each end instead of a couple short ones going directly from modem to router and router to switch. Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 One thing that I did on my home network was to add a Wireless Access Point. This device does NOT act as a router but simply provides wireless connectivity. You primary router continues to provide HDCP service to any device connected to the Access Point. Link to comment
viperdiver Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 However I don't want my wireless access point in the switch location (across the house from where I use it). Does the location that you want to have the wireless have 2 network drops? If so, connect the first drop from the modem to the WAN port on the router, and the second drop from one of the LAN router ports back to the switch at the patch panel. You can also use the other LAN ports on the router for PC's at that location. I think there are 2 drops. So you're saying to plug both drops into the router (the one not near the switch but across the house by the 2 drops) No. Move the router from the wiring closet near the switch to the spot where you want wireless. I'm not talking about adding a second router. Connect the drop that goes to the WAN port on the router to the modem in the wiring closet, and the drop that goes to the LAN port on the router to the switch in the wiring closet. The drops are labeled as to which one is which, correct? If not, you will have to figure it out by process of elimination. Perhaps it will help you to visualize each drop as just an ethernet extension cord, you are just plugging in the equipment exactly as it is right now, but with two very long cables with female ends and a couple short male extensions at each end instead of a couple short ones going directly from modem to router and router to switch. Got it... Thanks! Link to comment
viperdiver Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 However I don't want my wireless access point in the switch location (across the house from where I use it). Does the location that you want to have the wireless have 2 network drops? If so, connect the first drop from the modem to the WAN port on the router, and the second drop from one of the LAN router ports back to the switch at the patch panel. You can also use the other LAN ports on the router for PC's at that location. I think there are 2 drops. So you're saying to plug both drops into the router (the one not near the switch but across the house by the 2 drops) No. Move the router from the wiring closet near the switch to the spot where you want wireless. I'm not talking about adding a second router. Connect the drop that goes to the WAN port on the router to the modem in the wiring closet, and the drop that goes to the LAN port on the router to the switch in the wiring closet. The drops are labeled as to which one is which, correct? If not, you will have to figure it out by process of elimination. Perhaps it will help you to visualize each drop as just an ethernet extension cord, you are just plugging in the equipment exactly as it is right now, but with two very long cables with female ends and a couple short male extensions at each end instead of a couple short ones going directly from modem to router and router to switch. Thanks again for your help. Everything is wired up and working great. Glad to one my nas box away. Now if I can only figure out where the other 5 ethernet cables are going to... Link to comment
JonathanM Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Now if I can only figure out where the other 5 ethernet cables are going to... If your installer didn't label them, I'd be having a serious talk about getting them back to finish the job. Each wall port should be clearly identified as to where it terminates in the patch panel. Now, if you can't find all the wall ports, that's another issue, they are probably hidden behind furniture. Link to comment
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