After installing unraid, can i just put the server off as often as i want?

since i dont want it running at night or when im off to work...

say for example:

monday keep it running 1 hour

tuesday 2hours

wednesday 6 hours

etc etc

 

i can switch it on/off as often as i want?

using the power button on the case? or do i got to shut it down with a remote pc/laptop?

You must first install the user community addon powerdown.

The power button will work if there are no add-ons holding the disks busy.  If ANY disk is unable to be un-mounted because the disk id busy (open file or current director for a process) the server will not shut down.

 

The "powerdown" package will kill those processes and let the server shut down where it otherwise would not.

 

Joe L.

this is a good way to do it with the power down buttons? or should i use something like wake on lan?

How do you guys do it? Or are you all letting it run 24/24 7 days a week?

 

You say im able to power it down if its not busy (but when im not streaming from my dune, or browsing to it from my pc, or downloading stuff, it is not busy right?)

then its always not busy, so why use the powerdown package then?

 

 

this is a good way to do it with the power down buttons? or should i use something like wake on lan?

How do you guys do it? Or are you all letting it run 24/24 7 days a week?

 

You say im able to power it down if its not busy (but when im not streaming from my dune, or browsing to it from my pc, or downloading stuff, it is not busy right?)

then its always not busy, so why use the powerdown package then?

 

 

There are many people who are adding programs to unRAID that constantly access disks.  Some of those are transmission, a bit-torrent client, mySQL, a database, airVideo, a streaminig server.  Those will open files and keep the server from shutting down  unless closed/stopped first.  They need the powerdown package or something similar.

 

For a basic server used only for file storage, you can stop the server with a momentary press of the power button.

 

this is a good way to do it with the power down buttons? or should i use something like wake on lan?

How do you guys do it? Or are you all letting it run 24/24 7 days a week?

 

You say im able to power it down if its not busy (but when im not streaming from my dune, or browsing to it from my pc, or downloading stuff, it is not busy right?)

then its always not busy, so why use the powerdown package then?

 

 

There are many people who are adding programs to unRAID that constantly access disks.  Some of those are transmission, a bit-torrent client, mySQL, a database, airVideo, a streaminig server.  Those will open files and keep the server from shutting down  unless closed/stopped first.  They need the powerdown package or something similar.

 

For a basic server used only for file storage, you can stop the server with a momentary press of the power button.

 

ok thats clear thanks!

 

SOrry but im really new to unraid..

Couple of other questions, cause i want to be a bit prepared before installing my hardware and the software:

 

whats unmenu?

do i need the streaming server application, when i want to stream from my dune base?

What other applications are there/are useful?, What are the basic addons?

Thanks

For a basic server used only for file storage, you can stop the server with a momentary press of the power button.

I want to make sure I understand what you are saying.  Assuming that no process is running in the background I just press the power button on my pc and it will stop the array and then power the server off, correct?  So a single press of the power button on the case is just like pushing the Stop and then Powerdown buttons on the unRAID webGUI?

For a basic server used only for file storage, you can stop the server with a momentary press of the power button.

I want to make sure I understand what you are saying.  Assuming that no process is running in the background I just press the power button on my pc and it will stop the array and then power the server off, correct?  So a single press of the power button on the case is just like pushing the Stop and then Powerdown buttons on the unRAID webGUI?

on recent versions on unRAID yes.

this is a good way to do it with the power down buttons? or should i use something like wake on lan?

How do you guys do it? Or are you all letting it run 24/24 7 days a week?

 

You say im able to power it down if its not busy (but when im not streaming from my dune, or browsing to it from my pc, or downloading stuff, it is not busy right?)

then its always not busy, so why use the powerdown package then?

 

 

There are many people who are adding programs to unRAID that constantly access disks.  Some of those are transmission, a bit-torrent client, mySQL, a database, airVideo, a streaminig server.  Those will open files and keep the server from shutting down  unless closed/stopped first.  They need the powerdown package or something similar.

 

For a basic server used only for file storage, you can stop the server with a momentary press of the power button.

 

ok thats clear thanks!

 

SOrry but im really new to unraid..

Couple of other questions, cause i want to be a bit prepared before installing my hardware and the software:

whats unmenu?

do i need the streaming server application, when i want to stream from my dune base?

What other applications are there/are useful?, What are the basic addons?

Thanks

 

Nobody?

this is a good way to do it with the power down buttons? or should i use something like wake on lan?

How do you guys do it? Or are you all letting it run 24/24 7 days a week?

 

You say im able to power it down if its not busy (but when im not streaming from my dune, or browsing to it from my pc, or downloading stuff, it is not busy right?)

then its always not busy, so why use the powerdown package then?

 

 

There are many people who are adding programs to unRAID that constantly access disks.  Some of those are transmission, a bit-torrent client, mySQL, a database, airVideo, a streaminig server.  Those will open files and keep the server from shutting down  unless closed/stopped first.  They need the powerdown package or something similar.

 

For a basic server used only for file storage, you can stop the server with a momentary press of the power button.

 

ok thats clear thanks!

 

SOrry but im really new to unraid..

Couple of other questions, cause i want to be a bit prepared before installing my hardware and the software:

whats unmenu?

do i need the streaming server application, when i want to stream from my dune base?

What other applications are there/are useful?, What are the basic addons?

Thanks

 

Nobody?

unMenu information: http://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php?title=UnMENU_screen_shots

 

Think of unmenu like the regular gui interface that you use, but with a ton more features and options.

http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=5568.0

 

Some people have gone as far as putting in scripts so when they turn on their machines it would run until a specific time and the shut its self off. For example. You come home at 5pm and turn on your machine. It would then sit there until around 10pm and then shut its self off. That way there is no forgetting or interaction. Maybe set it up so it runs until 10pm during the week and on the weekend shut off at 12 just in case you stay up late watching a movie.

 

It really just depends on what you want specifically so somebody can tell you how to do it.

still not sure what to do

do i need, or is it advised to install the powerdown addon?

or can i just push the button on my case? to get a safe powerdown?

still not sure what to do

Completely up to you.

do i need, or is it advised to install the powerdown addon?

In my opinion yes.

or can i just push the button on my case? to get a safe powerdown?

If you you do not install the powerdown add-on through unMENU, the power button will work IF the web-management page is functional and IF no disks are busy. 

If any disk is busy, the array will not stop or power down.  The stock uRAID will NOT save any log files for analysis to the flash drive when the power button is pressed.

 

If you do install the powerdown add-on through unMENU, the power button will work even if the web-management page has crashed or was terminated.  It will terminate processes holding disks busy.  It is far more likely the array will be cleanly stopped and powered down. It will save log files to the flash drive for analysis.

 

Your choice.

 

Joe L.

Note: the power button will not work at all unless you have ACPI enabled in your motherboard's  BIOS.

 

still not sure what to do

Completely up to you.

do i need, or is it advised to install the powerdown addon?

In my opinion yes.

or can i just push the button on my case? to get a safe powerdown?

If you you do not install the powerdown add-on through unMENU, the power button will work IF the web-management page is functional and IF no disks are busy. 

If any disk is busy, the array will not stop or power down.  The stock uRAID will NOT save any log files for analysis to the flash drive when the power button is pressed.

 

If you do install the powerdown add-on through unMENU, the power button will work even if the web-management page has crashed or was terminated.   It will terminate processes holding disks busy.  It is far more likely the array will be cleanly stopped and powered down. It will save log files to the flash drive for analysis.

 

Your choice.

 

Joe L.

Note: the power button will not work at all unless you have ACPI enabled in your motherboard's  BIOS.

 

 

ok thx, so its advised.. will do it then thx

joe , this is the same under pkg_manager , i see 2 powerdowns.. one for over temperature and one clean powerdown

 

its that one (clean powerdown) i should install right?

http://unraid-powercontrol.googlecode.com/files/powerdown-1.02-noarch-unRAID.tgz

right?

joe , this is the same under pkg_manager , i see 2 powerdowns.. one for over temperature and one clean powerdown

 

its that one (clean powerdown) i should install right?

http://unraid-powercontrol.googlecode.com/files/powerdown-1.02-noarch-unRAID.tgz

right?

Yes, the clean-powerdown is the one you want.

What is the cleanest way to powerdown if the web GUI has crashed?

Is there a command to kill the webGUI and restart it?

 

I am running version 4.5.6 with UnMenu. 

Sometimes the UnRaid web page seems to crash, even though the server itself and UnMenu pages are still running fine.

Just curious what the cleanest solution is to get everything responding again.

 

Thanks,

Rick

What is the cleanest way to powerdown if the web GUI has crashed?

Is there a command to kill the webGUI and restart it?

 

I am running version 4.5.6 with UnMenu. 

Sometimes the UnRaid web page seems to crash, even though the server itself and UnMenu pages are still running fine.

Just curious what the cleanest solution is to get everything responding again.

 

Thanks,

Rick

If you can log in via telnet:

 

killall emhttp

nohup /usr/local/sbin/emhttp &

 

That will kill the web-interface and restart it.  If it was killed however, odds are you are running out of memory. (a process has used it all or a log file used it all)  You will need to stop the array and reboot.

 

Joe L.