Everything posted by barrygordon
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TCP/IP control to turn the array spin up or spin down
I have a Home Theater that is fully controlled by a Windows 10 PC. The NAS (Unraid) stores a large collection of DVD's ripped and kept in Matroska format. If I am looking to select a movie to watch there is a full indexing system on the PC that when is selected will load the desired movie from the NAS. I would like to be able to spin up the disks on the NAS and spin them down when all done. I used to have the code to do that (spin up/down over TCP/IP) and it worked fine. I used port 8010 at the IP address of the NAS, but that has stopped working several software generations ago. Is there any capability available today (version 7.0.3) ? I believe there is a shell that does that but I am not conversant with "shell" capability, and very familiar with TCP/IP
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Spinning up/down hard drives using TCP/IP
I would like to be able to send my unRaid NAS to be able to disk up/down the hard drives. I would like to be to all the drives or specific ones. My Home Theater, has about 600 DVD's stored on the NAS. I would like to be select a movie (DVD) when the Home Theater application starts, living the drives spin up to eliminate the delay when I select a movie. Has any one be able to help me do that.
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Selling my house with all electronics
My house is highly automated and an Unraid NAS is a key part of that automation. I have registered a new domain and a corresponding email for that domain. When the new owner takes posession they will use the new email address and password which I will leave them. The question I have is whether a can register the new email and password at this time, in effect transferring the Unraid registration to the new email and new password as the registered owner
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HDHomeRun DVR
I am looking into HDHomeRUN tuners for ATSC 3 by Silicon Dust. They feature the use of a NAS. I was wondering if any Unraid users have experience with their product line and have successfully integrated one of their tuners with Unraid. If so how did you do it and how well does it operate.
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unRAID API
I am very interested in this. I would like the APi to have a nice TCP/IP interface or a REST interface. IIRC an earlier version of unraid (way back in time) had the ability to do things using TCP/IP and GET. I used that to spin up/down disks asynchronously when I started my home theater so that I would have the wait on first access when a movies stored on the unraid NAS was selected.
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unable to keep disk + parity spun down
unRaid version=6.8.3; No cache drives/pool; no SSDs all HDDs, 10 drives + parity drive I have been an unraid user since about 2010. Recently I noticed I could not spin down one of my disks and the parity disk. In the past I was sure I was able to spin all disks down and they stayed down until accessed. To be precise they do spin down (using capabilities of the main gui page either by disk or using "spin Down" button) however they spin back up after a few seconds. The data disk and the parity disk are getting writes every few seconds. I had recently turned on docker and installed a container. To try and isolate the problem I have removed the container, turned off docker (marked disabled in docker settings) and rebooted the system. The problem still persists. I have traced it to a share named "system", containing a directory named "docker" which contains the file "docker.img" The size of the file does not seem to be changing (21.5 GB). I am concerned with the high amount of traffic to the two disks. Should I be concerned; maybe 500 accesses (writes) per hour? Is this a known Bug? is there a Fix? How can I resolve the continuing writes? I normally keep the array spun down but this seems to no longer be possible.
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[Plugin] CA User Scripts
I am looking for a script that would monitor a TCP port and accept commands to spinup, spindown, or return status of a disk. The the minimum capability I need would be a command to spin up all the disks in the array. I could have them spin down after 4 hours of inactivity. The major use of the array is to feed my own home theater movie system. The delay when loading a movie bothers me and I would like to spin up the the array disks when I open the theater's movie librarian. It is my belief that if disks are generally not being used keeping them in a spun down state will increase their longevity Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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The Power Supply Thread
After about 5 years I had a power supply fail. My system was designed with redundant 2U/3U power supplies. So all that has happened so far is a whistling noise to tell me that the redundant power supply system is down to one supply. The supplies are made by Emacs (originally Zippy) and my system is R2W6500P. It consists of two independent R2W6500P-R units which are hot swapable. Everything in my case is hot swapable except the cables the Controller card and the motherboard. Perhaps some day in the future I will be able to swap the drives too if and when the unRaid software permits it. I started to hunt for a replacement. I found one new for $278.50. I then tried eBay. It seems that a lot of server farms are being upgraded and that exact power supply system is becoming available at very low prices. I picked up 3 of the R2W6500P-R units for a total of $52 including shipping. They are used but tested and guaranteed working. When they come in I will slip one into the RM case from the rear and plug the power cord in and the whistling should then stop. No down time. A nice complimentary system to the Unraid
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The trap I fell into on controlling the environment in the zone for where the servers are, is that I forgot that in the winter the house is heated by forced air. If your servers are in their own zone with nothing else okay, but beware an error of omsiion like the one I made. I ended up installing a small two part AC system, for just the room (actually a very large closet) that all my servers are located in and just keeping it at 72 degrees F.
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What works - Works!! As Rajahal recognized, I was only commenting on the general case of cooling design as related to heat flow.
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Sorry Rajahal, I have to disgaree (Partially), although the use of "hot Air" makes you technically correct. The following is general in nature and offered as a guideline, not a design. Assuming that the room ambient is cooler than the air in the case you want that air to flow across componets heating up thereby removing thermal energy from the components (cooling them) before exiting the case. Ideally you want it (the air) to exit the case when the temperature of the flowing air is the same as the components it is cooling. Heat transfer always flows from the warmer body to the cooler body, and the efficiency of the transfer is related to the temperature difference between the two bodies. What you do not want is a "Short circuit" flow where air sucked into the case immediatly exits the case before being allowed to remove heat from the components. Not knowing the specific case design, it is hard to comment further.
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SAS to SATA cables: Forward or Reverse Which, Where, Why
There have been many posts involving SAS to SATA breakout cables of the Forward vs Reverse types. Which type to use where is generally the question. To make it simple, if the host-controller side is a SAS connector (SFF-8470) and the target side is SATA drives then you must always use a SAS to SATA Forward Breakout Cable. If The Motherboard/host-Controller side are SATA connectors and the backplane is a SAS connector then you must always use a SAS to SATA Reverse Breakout Cable. For SATA to SATA you just use a "SATA" cable as there is only one type, although they do come in different lengths. For SAS to SAS connections there is also just a single cable type. The two breakout cables, forward and reverse, are not the same although they look outwardly to be the same, not withstanding the fact that some of these cables have the SATA portion of the cables at staggered lengths and some have them at fixed length. If you just want to follow the rule you can stop reading now. Why are there two different cable types for SAS to SATA connectivity? An objective of the SATA system design was that SATA cables would have identical connectors at each end, and that SATA devices would have identical connectors independent of whether they were disk drives or disk controllers. This helps to make interconections foolproof and reduces the cost of cables. If you ever look at a SATA to SATA cable they are identical and wired as a 1:1 cable. In a 1:1 cable pin 1 of end-A goes to pin 1 of end-B, pin 2 to pin 2, pin 3 to pin 3, etc. If you were to look at the SATA connector on a host-controller or motherboard and the SATA connector on a disk drive they look the same, and are physically the same, but each are wired differently. A SATA connector has 7 pins. Two of the pins make up the receive pair and two of the pins make up the transmit pair. The other three pins are all used for ground signals. If a 1:1 ("straight-through") SATA to SATA cable is to work, then the receive pair can not be the same pins on each of the two device connectors (Host vs disk)! If they were the same pins then we would need what is generally referred to as a "cross-over" cable. The "Absolute Rule" is that the transmit pins on one side must connect to the receive pins on the other side and vice versa. This is true for PC-PC RS232 connections, Ethernet Connections, SATA connections, and almost all types of serial connections which are duplex, i.e. separate receive and transmit cables. The SATA cable connector design puts the Host/controller side transmit pair on pins 2 & 3, and the Receive pair on pins 5 & 6. On the Disk drive the receive pair are pins 2 & 3, and the transmit pair are pins 5 & 6. As a point of reference pin 7 is the keyed pin. All SAS connectors have their pins structured the same way no matter if they are on a host controller card, or a SAS backplane. Since for each port of the four that make up the SFF-8470 connector the transmit pins and the receive pins are physically in the same location, and we must connect SAS transmit to SATA receive and SAS receive to SATA transmit (for each port); the cables must be different depending on whether the SATA connector is on a disk drive or a Motherboard/Host-Controller. A SAS to SAS cable must therefore be a "cross over" cable to connect the transmit pairs of a port to the receive pairs of the corresponding port on the other side. Hope that helps clear up the mystery.
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Looking for better ideas how how to sleep/suspend my unraid box
Thanks Joe. Now I have to figure out whay it is not working. When I was first building the unRaid I tested it and it worked but had poblems on waking up. It did not restore the Monitor correctly so I decided to put off the use of that feature completely. I am now looking at it again. I will have to check it all from scratch. I am assuming that if the array is stopped before I try the S3 suspend, that should be enough to keep unraid happy.
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Looking for better ideas how how to sleep/suspend my unraid box
Just getting back to look into this. When I issue echo 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep nothing happens. I will check everything but first a little question. If I look at /bin/acpi/sleep (cat /proc/acpi/sleep) all I see is a single line that looks like S0 S3 S5. That looks strange to me as I would have expected to see a bunch of gibberish being the code of a program. Is it correct? Or did it somehow get destroyed?
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ahhh yes I have seen posts from this idiot before
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If you are addressing your request for more info to me (barrygordon) what is it you would like to know?
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My goal is to build a rack mount server to hold all my movies (Bluray and DVD). This should be a very reliable system based on some sort of RAID technology. There should be enough storage space to hold at least 400 BluRay formatted movies and 500-700 DVD formatted movies. Assumptions: BluRay movie Storage Space 30 Gig (average) DVD Movie Storage Space 5 Gig (Average) Current Collection 600 DVD’s (3.0 Terabytes) 60 current BR disks (1.8 Terabytes) 340 new BR discs (10.2 Terabytes) Total storage required (15.0 Terabytes) Total Storage (Design) (20.0 Terabytes) The player will be the new Dune player (Dune base 3.0). With 24 terabytes of usable storage (10 data drives, 1 parity drive, 1 hot Spare) I can hold my current collection with sufficient capacity for growth. The house LAN is 100 mbit. Eventually there will be two more players, one in the master bedroom and one in the guest bedroom. Server Design: The design is for a rack mount system using the unRaid storage structure running over a Linux (Slackware) kernel. System will boot from a flash drive, 1st boot device; or a CD-ROM, 2nd Boot device; or a HDD, 3rd boot device. System will have Windows XP x64 installed on Partition 1 of an IDE HDD which is not part of the Raid storage. System will have Ubuntu installed on Partition 2 of the same IDE HDD drive. There will be a slim CD-DVD reader for Windows maintenance. If the unRAid flash drive is plugged in then the unRaid system is booted, if it is not plugged in then the Grub loader allows for Windows XP or Ubuntu. Parts list with mfg/model and Vendor information: Component; Mfg. Model Supplier Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Newegg Processor AMD Athlon II x2 240 Newegg Memory Kingston DDR2 4x 1Gig 800 mhz Newegg SAS/SATA HBA SuperMicro AOC SASLP MV8 ProVantage SAS-SAS Cables 3 Ware SFF-8087 to SFF-8087 RackmountPro System Case Chenbro 3012 RackmountPro Power Supply Zippy R2W6500P RackmountPro SAS-SATA Cable SFF-8087- 4x SATA PC-Pitstop Unraid Flash Lime-Tech PRO 2 Drive Set 4.5.3 Lime-Tech SATA Drives (4) Hitachi Deskstar 2TB 2700 RPM Newegg The mobo has 1 PCIe x16, 1 PCIe x1, 2 PCI, LAN O/B, Video O/B, 1 IDE, 5 SATA, 1 eSATA, 6 USB The system case is 3Ux26" with 12 Hot Swap drive bays, internal Sapce for 2 Drives (I Sata, 1 IDE), 1 slim CD ROM The PSU is 2U/3U Redundant @ 500 Watts per unit. All is now assembeled and running with 5 HDD's (4 in the array and one spare) The 4 in the array are connected to the motherboard Sata ports and the spare is connected to the SASLP MVA HBA. The server rack has a 1500 VA UPS and with all the equipment in the rack and auxiliary home automation devices it is loaded at 54% of capacity. Half of the house has a power buss with a 15KW standby generator. Naturally the server room is powered from that buss. The generator kicks in after 20 seconds of utility power loss and the UPS starts to charge again. I live in Central FL USA so power outages are quite prevalent.
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Can't the drives have staggered spin up on power Up? That would tend to solve the power draw issue but introduce others. Is that a drive function?, an OS function, a MoBo function, an application Function?, a.... I thought (and do not know why I do) that modern drives have some configuration setting that says wait n units of time after power on before powering up. If so I guess one has to go to the drive mfg to find out and how to do it. I will do that fopr the Hitachi 2TB drives I am using and report back. The delays need not be long as the startup inrush current lasts for a relatively short time. This brings me back to 1958 and my woindering why I was in this EE lab with all sorts of electric motors.