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Yes, otherwise this whole thread would be pointless.

I think you're confusing uploading files directly via the mount (which we don't) which is bad if you don't know what you are doing , and via rclone upload (which we do) which is 100% safe. If it didn't work, this whole 69 page thread would be a waste of time!

@1activegeek post your rclone config and your mount script please. When you say the mount goes missing, where do you mean? In dockers, file explorer, shell etc?

Krusader has caused problems for other people - it needs restarting after a new mount. I get confused with your filepaths, but if the mount isn't working then the mountcheck file shouldn't be there and needs deleting...the mountcheck file should be on the remote and it's presence is used to check the mount has completed successfully.

Not sure how Plex scans for changes in a directory. My setup has sonarr/radarr etc telling plex something has changed which works perfectly.

there's something in /mnt/user/mount_rclone/googleSh_crypt prior to the mount that you need to check and delete if appropriate.

Mergerfs just shows what rclone knows about. If changes are made direct to gdrive, rclone won't know about these until it polls the remote to see if there are new files - that's why your scans are 'failing'. If you're mounting a remote where changes are made outside of the rclone i.e. your mate is loading files and not rclone, then you need your mate to install plex autoscan or something similar, so that it tells plex/rclone to re-scan the changed directory.

Yes it does if done correctly. If you're making changes to the mount outside of rclone that will be the source of your problem. Or, your settings aren't right - best advice I can give is use my scripts.

look in the /mnt/user/appdata/other/rclone/remote/your_remote_name folder and delete the dockers_started file. or, run the unmount script. If you need more help use the main thread.

I've been going for 2 years and others for much longer...I think if it was a problem for Google they would have shut it down by now. In my view, the longer it goes on the less likely they will shut it down. Our storage is a drop in the ocean compared to some corporates, research universities etc etc

If you're backing up a share, it'll be hard to restore a drive unless you make it easy and D1 has /media/movies D2 has media/tv_shows on etc etc so it's obvious which folder from the crypt needs downloading. To be honest, I think what you'll end up doing is just putting it all in the cloud. That's what most people have done, even if they only dipped their toe in to start with. I did. I'm kind of curious to see if I get a few beers. I remember when I first put some ads on a blog I used to run about 15 years ago and how shocked I was initially how much spare change I was making, which eventually became a full-time gig for about 5 years!

Yes - if the share's shared e.g. I control my shares via file manager on my windows 10 VM.

Thanks! I read somewhere that you were 'busy' so I wasn't concerned!

rclone/plex indexes the mount so nothing is streamed when just browsing plex. I remember reading those instructions and it did confuse me, so I'm not sure how accurate they are now. If your happy with your playback experience I wouldn't rock the boat i.e. if you're getting less than 5s spin-ups I wouldn't waste time experimenting with settings, as you'll probably only save a second or two at best.

Best place to start is the github page, where the instructions are kept fairly up to date and @watchmeexplode5 has helped with that as well. I think you can achieve that with with MergerFS. read up on 'FF' first found (I think) and just put your backup location first. you can choose disk shares as your upload source. I don't think you'll get multiple copies, but I don't know if you'll waste bandwidth repeatedly uploading the same file. Why not just use a share aka Unraid so it doesn't matter what disk it's on? Yeah, I guess it does save a lot of cash ;-). I've got over 0.5PB stored between media and backups which is at least £10k in drives, and that's before you factor in replacements, power, hassle, racks etc I was toying with putting up a donation or patreon or something on github as I read once they exist. I've just created a paypal.me link if anyone wants to add to my beer fund for when there's a bar I can visit!

Not sure - I've done several full 'Scan Library Files' - also when I've changed my directory structure and not had any problems.

what abuse are you referring to? I don't see where anyone is breaking any of Google's T&Cs. If you're referring to the user agent change, that was temporary and was reverted I'll ignore the point about abuse, but again has this best practice advice come from Google???? How many people store a 'large' amount of media data on Google I don't know and until Google say it's a problem, I'm not going to change my behaviour and stop using the very generous unlimited storage to store my media, backups and personal files. When you consider the billions of people who use Google, I imagine this is a drop in the ocean compared to the total amount of data stored and over time the cost/GB (and remember Google's £/GB isn't the same as ours) will continue to fall and cloud storage will become the norm for all. Can you please start a new thread if you want to continue discussing this, as this is a support thread for sharing ideas on improving plex and rclone support.

But - the checker files are created and removed by a script. Just because they aren't there, doesn't mean rclone isn't running - sleeping for a combined 20s isn't going to fix hangs

Yes. If you're worried, copy a couple of movies or episodes and watch the activity.

Yes.

That wouldn't work for me. It can literally freeze and not shutdown and I need to do a hard shutdown. It's the main reason why I don't reboot often - e.g. last month I got a disk error from a hard shutdown, which was painful to fix. Sometimes it's seamless - I actually think there's something in 6.8.x that causes the problem.

post your rclone config please.

Nothing gets added to mergerfs - it's a virtual share. If it appears to be on disk 3 that because you've set it to disk 3 in your share settings, but nothing actually gets added there. If what you're asking is for your local files to go on disk 1 or 2, then set /mnt/user/local to disk 1 and 2.

Like you I don't restart that often. It seems to go through cycles where it stops ok, and others where it hangs. It seems like we've eliminated upload jobs and stopping the mount - maybe it's mergerfs and we need to stop the docker (and probably the dockers trying to access the mount) first?

Remove --RC from one of the mounts - you can only do this once, which is why you can only mount whichever one runs first.