March 19, 201115 yr Is anyone able to view the //tower menu or //tower:8080 (unMenu) via an Android smart phone? This is via local WiFi on the same LAN as the unRAID server, not trying to do it remotely over the internet. It won't work for me, either with the Android browser or the Firefox portable beta. I can access the main menu page if I enter the IP address in the browser. But entering //tower acts like a web search for "//tower". So in order to access any of the sub menu pages I also have to edit the address and replace tower with the IP, which is highly tedious. I'm guessing the problem is that "Tower" is a Microsoft network computer name and that Android doesn't know how to decode it through the Microsoft local master browser machine. But maybe there is some sort of workaround?
March 19, 201115 yr Same problem here - using HTC Desire with Android 2.2. If I substitute the IP address I can see the machine status. I can't see a way round it just now (and server is busy, so I don't want to start changing names, etc). Edit: Same on iPod touch using Safari.
March 19, 201115 yr Author OK. Thanks. FWIMBW I'm also on an HTC Android 2.2 phone. I'm beginning to think the only answer is to set up bookmarks for the main menu and every sub-menu page which substitute the IP address for //tower. Maybe someone can think of a non-tedious way to to this or come up with a better idea.
March 19, 201115 yr It should, but it doesn't on the phone. It's fine though via a PC on the network. I suspect I am missing something somewhere.
March 19, 201115 yr You have to use the IP address. Make sure you disable DHCP so the IP doesn't change randomly. Works for me on Android. http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:80 http://XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:8080
March 19, 201115 yr Yes - we know (see comments above). But the problem comes with some of the links to other screens (especially within unMenu) since many of them (but not all) use the server name which is not then looked up correctly. It's the lack of look-up that appears to be at the root of the problem. Personally, I'm not too worried, but for some users it could be useful if it worked a little better than it appears to.
March 19, 201115 yr I think you have to turn on wireless. Otherwise, it's browsing via the carriers tower.
March 19, 201115 yr Sorry queeg - but as stated above it already works with the IP address, so WiFi is a given. The problem lies elsewhere.
March 20, 201115 yr This is not a DNS issue, it is a NETBIOS issue. Unless you are running your own DNS server locally, DNS has no bearing on name lookup for your local network. Samba is using NETBIOS over TCPIP for name resolution. Whenever your Windows box looks for http://tower it first checks it's hosts file. If no match is found it sends a broadcast to the local network asking if anyone is "named" tower. If no match is found it then queries a DNS server. I'm guessing android isn't configured to use NETBIOS over TCP/IP by default and I have no clue if it can be. It's Linux under the hood though, so you may be able to create/modify it's hosts file.
March 20, 201115 yr Author Thanks Spectrum. It appears that a plugin is probably necessary for the browser. Such as is available for the Ghost Commander File Manager App. I've been able to use that app to access content on my unRAID server. The smb plugin allows Ghost Commander to resolve "tower" properly. Appears as smb://tower there. So it looks as though something comparable might be workable with the browser. Unfortunately, if anything like that already exists I haven't found it.
March 20, 201115 yr Yes. Thank you. I am beginning to understand it now. A quick look says that it is technically possible (google for android /etc/hosts) but it's not for the faint hearted who don't want to dig too deep.
March 20, 201115 yr All you have to do is bookmark the pages you need to look at. http://XXX.XXX.XXX:8080/disk_management http://XXX.XXX.XXX:8080/smarthistory Yes - we know (see comments above). But the problem comes with some of the links to other screens (especially within unMenu) since many of them (but not all) use the server name which is not then looked up correctly. It's the lack of look-up that appears to be at the root of the problem. Personally, I'm not too worried, but for some users it could be useful if it worked a little better than it appears to.
March 20, 201115 yr If you rooted your android phone you could always add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx tower to your hosts file /etc/host Kinda extreme, but I've had every one of my Android phones rooted since I've bought them. As well my above suggestion has worked ever since I've tried it.
March 20, 201115 yr Author All you have to do is bookmark the pages you need to look at. Yeah. As I already said: I'm beginning to think the only answer is to set up bookmarks for the main menu and every sub-menu page which substitute the IP address for //tower. Maybe someone can think of a non-tedious way to to this or come up with a better idea. I don't know if I'm not writing clearly or if reading comprehension is down due to the full moon. That's at least the third time in this thread someone has ignored what has already been said.
March 20, 201115 yr Author If you rooted your android phone you could always add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx tower to your hosts file /etc/host Kinda extreme, but I've had every one of my Android phones rooted since I've bought them. As well my above suggestion has worked ever since I've tried it. Thanks. I'll probably be looking into rooting it eventually (since I apply hacks to almost every other piece of gear I have that will allow it ). Need to read up on it some more first.
March 20, 201115 yr All you have to do is bookmark the pages you need to look at. Yeah. As I already said: I'm beginning to think the only answer is to set up bookmarks for the main menu and every sub-menu page which substitute the IP address for //tower. Maybe someone can think of a non-tedious way to to this or come up with a better idea. I don't know if I'm not writing clearly or if reading comprehension is down due to the full moon. That's at least the third time in this thread someone has ignored what has already been said. You can also just set the two variables in the unmenu.conf file that have it use the IP address instead of the server name. Then, referencing unMENU's web-pages will not have the server name, but the server IP address instead. It will require the server have a fixed IP address, but editing the host file on the android phone will need the fixed address too. It is exactly the same solution many MAC users apply. add these two lines to your unmenu_local.conf file using an editor that does not add ms-dos style carriage returns (using the correct IP address) then just re-start the unMENU server. MyHost=192.168.1.123 unRAIDHost=192.168.1.123 You can use the config view/edit screen in unMENU to do the editing, and the restart button on the user-scripts page to re-start it. Joe L.
March 20, 201115 yr Author You can also just set the two variables in the unmenu.conf file that have it use the IP address instead of the server name. Excellent. Thanks Joe. It occurred to me to ask you if unMENU could be recoded to accomplish this, but not knowing how simple it would be I thought I'd wait and see if it could be addressed from the Android side first.
March 20, 201115 yr Author add these two lines to your unmenu_local.conf file using an editor that does not add ms-dos style carriage returns (using the correct IP address) then just re-start the unMENU server. MyHost=192.168.1.123 unRAIDHost=192.168.1.123 You can use the config view/edit screen in unMENU to do the editing... I see: unmenu/myMain.conf unmenu/myMain_local.conf unmenu/unmenu.conf but not unmenu_local.conf . Maybe it's my reading comprehension.
March 20, 201115 yr add these two lines to your unmenu_local.conf file using an editor that does not add ms-dos style carriage returns (using the correct IP address) then just re-start the unMENU server. MyHost=192.168.1.123 unRAIDHost=192.168.1.123 You can use the config view/edit screen in unMENU to do the editing... I see: unmenu/myMain.conf unmenu/myMain_local.conf unmenu/unmenu.conf but not unmenu_local.conf . Maybe it's my reading comprehension. If it does not exist, you can create it. You can create it by typing echo "MyHost=192.168.1.123" >/boot/unmenu/unmenu_local.conf
March 20, 201115 yr Author Thanks Joe. That works, as expected, to provide working links to all of the unMENU pages. It's very nice to be able to easily access all the unMENU capabities via my phone now. It still doesn't provide a valid link to the official unRAID Main menu from unMENU. Or, of course, address the links within the official menu. Perhaps there is a similar fix possible for the unRAID webGUI configuration?
March 21, 201115 yr Thanks Joe. That works, as expected, to provide working links to all of the unMENU pages. It's very nice to be able to easily access all the unMENU capabities via my phone now. It still doesn't provide a valid link to the official unRAID Main menu from unMENU. Or, of course, address the links within the official menu. Perhaps there is a similar fix possible for the unRAID webGUI configuration? That is what the second of the two parameters was for unRAIDHost=192.168.1.123 it is specifically for unRAID's main invoked through unMENU. However, that may not fix the link names in unRAID's main screen. ... (I don't remember if it did. I think if you invoke it by IP address, the relative links will be by IP address.)
March 21, 201115 yr Author That is what the second of the two parameters was for unRAIDHost=192.168.1.123 it is specifically for unRAID's main invoked through unMENU. It's puzzling (to me) what it actually does when selecting unRAID Main from within unMENU: It enters http:/192.168.nn.nnn:8080/unraid_main into the browser address. And the browser displays an amalgamation of the previous unMENU html screen and an OpenDNS web search result for Tower/main.htm. On the other hand: However, that may not fix the link names in unRAID's main screen. ... (I don't remember if it did. I think if you invoke it by IP address, the relative links will be by IP address.) That does work. I had not actually tried opening the unRAID menu directly last night after making these changes. When I tried it today the links to the submenus are now by IP and work fine. Thanks. So the only mystery is what is going on when attempting to access the unRAID menu from unMENU. I double checked the code (EOL are all LF only): ##unmenu_local.conf ##Created 2011 Mar 20 ##To allow unMENU submenu pages to be accessible via Android browser ##Re: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=11816.msg112697#msg112697 MyHost=192.168.nn.nnn unRAIDHost=192.168.nn.nnn and also cleared the Android browser cache but it's still "working" as I described.
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