July 4, 20224 yr So I have 12 bays and all full now, mixture of 4TBs and 12TB. I got another 12TB to replace a 4TB but not sure which one to replace. Just replace at random or is there a way to check which is oldest? All the 4TB drives are WD Reds but think 1 is a WD Green so maybe take that out? Edited July 4, 20224 yr by bally12345
July 4, 20224 yr Run SMART reports on all smaller drives. Examine SMART results. Replace the most questionable drive going off the reports. Consolidate the content of the second most questionable drive going off the reports onto the new 12TB drive. No sense in keeping more drives than needed to store your content. Edited July 4, 20224 yr by BRiT
July 4, 20224 yr Community Expert 43 minutes ago, bally12345 said: check which is oldest SMART report for each disk has that information. Do any disks have SMART warnings on the Dashboard page? Post diagnostics if you want us to take a look
July 4, 20224 yr Community Expert 7 minutes ago, BRiT said: Consolidate the content of the second most questionable drive going off the reports onto the new 12TB drive. @bally12345 The only reason I would consider doing this is to add a second parity drive. You are actually at the point (number of data drives) where you should consider this. The primary reason for the second parity drive is not to wait until you have a second drive issue but so that you have a redundancy in case you have a problem in rebuilding what you thought was a single drive failure.
July 4, 20224 yr Author 2 hours ago, trurl said: SMART report for each disk has that information. Do any disks have SMART warnings on the Dashboard page? Post diagnostics if you want us to take a look I will run smart against all the disk and pop it into excel for future reference too. None of the drives have any warnings against them and all showing as healthy. 2 hours ago, Frank1940 said: @bally12345 The only reason I would consider doing this is to add a second parity drive. You are actually at the point (number of data drives) where you should consider this. The primary reason for the second parity drive is not to wait until you have a second drive issue but so that you have a redundancy in case you have a problem in rebuilding what you thought was a single drive failure. I think you are right, I didnt even consider a 2nd parity tbh. Either way will still need to pull a drive from the array. server-diagnostics-20220704-1618.zip
July 4, 20224 yr Community Expert 3 minutes ago, bally12345 said: Either way will still need to pull a drive from the array Is this because you don't have ports for an additional disk?
July 4, 20224 yr Author 35 minutes ago, trurl said: Is this because you don't have ports for an additional disk? Correct its 2U supermicro chassis with 12bays. All bays are populated and I have 1TB ssd connected to on board sata for cache drive.
July 4, 20224 yr Community Expert I end up with A LOT of external drives, and use SMART to determine when to retire them: Gives you a rough idea of how long a drive has been in use. Arbadacarba
July 4, 20224 yr Community Expert I looked at the SMART reports in your diagnostics file and did not see any problem with any of the disks. Personally, if it were me, I would replace disk 1 which has 70,000 hours on it first. If I made a decision to add the second parity drive, I would move the data off disk 3 (53,000+ hours) to free up a disk slot for the second parity drive. I would not discard either of these disks but keep them around as a 'cold spare' to resolve a problem with one of the other 4TB disks until I could get a new replacement drive. With single parity, it is best to resolve any problem before a second problem arises that would present a major issue to resolve without data loss. (I have a new 'cold spare' for both for my servers. I fully realize that the warranty will probably expire on these disks before either will be installed but that is a fact I can live with. I have not had a true hard disk failure in many years now. Just a couple of failure to write issues in which the drive was not the issue.)
July 4, 20224 yr Community Expert I strongly suspect that is s false value. It is technically not possible for parity to run that fast on HdDs.
July 5, 20224 yr Community Expert 6 hours ago, itimpi said: I strongly suspect that is s false value. It is technically not possible for parity to run that fast on HdDs. Wrong thread?
July 5, 20224 yr Community Expert 3 hours ago, trurl said: Wrong thread? Look like it Not sure how that could happen though ss I did nothing out of the ordinary to make it happen.
July 5, 20224 yr Author 18 hours ago, Frank1940 said: I looked at the SMART reports in your diagnostics file and did not see any problem with any of the disks. Personally, if it were me, I would replace disk 1 which has 70,000 hours on it first. If I made a decision to add the second parity drive, I would move the data off disk 3 (53,000+ hours) to free up a disk slot for the second parity drive. I would not discard either of these disks but keep them around as a 'cold spare' to resolve a problem with one of the other 4TB disks until I could get a new replacement drive. With single parity, it is best to resolve any problem before a second problem arises that would present a major issue to resolve without data loss. (I have a new 'cold spare' for both for my servers. I fully realize that the warranty will probably expire on these disks before either will be installed but that is a fact I can live with. I have not had a true hard disk failure in many years now. Just a couple of failure to write issues in which the drive was not the issue.) By the sounds of things I would probably be better getting hold of another 12TB in that case and start planning on moving some data of the 4TBs.
July 5, 20224 yr Community Expert 24 minutes ago, bally12345 said: By the sounds of things I would probably be better getting hold of another 12TB in that case and start planning on moving some data of the 4TBs. Look here: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-12TB-Internal-Drive/dp/B084ZTSMWF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=18507JHD1A1DK&keywords=12%2Btb%2Binternal%2Bhardrive&qid=1657030503&sprefix=12%2Btb%2B%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-3&th=1 IT sounds like Amazon was thinking of you! 🙄 Edited July 5, 20224 yr by Frank1940
July 5, 20224 yr Author Look here: https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-IronWolf-12TB-Internal-Drive/dp/B084ZTSMWF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=18507JHD1A1DK&keywords=12%2Btb%2Binternal%2Bhardrive&qid=1657030503&sprefix=12%2Btb%2B%2Caps%2C104&sr=8-3&th=1 IT sounds like Amazon was thinking of you! [emoji849]Im in the UK [emoji636]Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
July 8, 20223 yr Author I think I have come up with plan to start moving some data and freeing up a disk slot. For now I am moving stuff away from a 4TB to add the 12TB I have. Will then move all data from disk1 which has been running for about 7-8 years without issue to the new 12TB. Then order a another 12TB to replace disk1 and then assign that as parity2! After all that is all done I still need to decide if I should move away from the dual X5690 setup or Ryzen? Edited July 8, 20223 yr by bally12345
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