I have a Dune Prime 3.0 media player and I'm sure other users have them also on here. For some odd reason I cannot find my NFS shares on my unraid server using the Network Browser that is in the Dune player. SMB speeds are horribly slow and I have several very high bitrate movies that skip all over the place using SMB. I remember when I used NFS this did not happen. Also the Dune player has a built in speed test. The top read speed I get when using SMB is only 6MB/sec. When I used NFS previously I got 11MB/sec which was Dune's top speed. When I had unraid 4.7 I used NFS just fine. Then when I switched to 5.0beta I had trouble with NFS so I just opted to use SMB at that point and never spent the time to troubleshoot. Now I want to use NFS.

 

NFS is turned on and it is set to PUBLIC.

 

Is anyone using a Dune Media Player with their unraid server using NFS ok? I've done all the basic stuff. There are no settings in the Dune itself for NFS. I've looked through all the menus and options and there is nothing about NFS. Can someone maybe point me in the right direction? This is the same Dune player that worked with NFS when I had version 4.7 of unraid. I'm not sure at all where the origin of the issue is. Either it is the media player itself or unraid. All my computers at home are Windows based...but according to some utilities I have ran NFS ports are open. Help?!

 

Dune's support (or lack thereof) doesn't exsist. They don't have forums or anything. They are charging hundreds of dollars for their media players and don't even give support. I've heard more and more people going else where for their media player needs. At least I'm looking at that new Popcorn Hour 400 model that is coming out.

 

 

My current network folder settings on the dune shortcut are:

 

Name: tvmovies on sun

Type: NFS

Server: 192.168.1.120

Folder: /sun/tvmovies

Protocol: UDP (and have tried TCP)

 

When I click on it the Dune just comes back with Cannot Access Network Folder

 

 

Thanks-

 

I've tried it myself briefly but couldnt get it working, so i've been using smb as well, but your question triggered me to check it out again... turns out after some trying that for the path on the dune you need to enter the full, case sensitive path to your nfs share, e.g. /mnt/user/Someshare/subfolder

 

Readtest on dune shows that NFS is faster then SMB, so im gonna replace my smb shares with nfs as well

After thinking just a little bit I changed the folder path to what the absolute folder path is. Instead of using the conventional way like this:

/sun/tvmovies

 

I changed that to:

/mnt/user/tvmovies

 

And it did work and connect to the share using NFS. I did the read test speed and it was still only around 6.5MB/sec. I remember I use to get almost double that. I don't know what the bottleneck is. Everything here is 1000Mbit. I know media players do have pretty bad speeds but when playing a full 1080p high bitrate movie you need all the speed you can get. I have those two test bitrate files of those birds flying by. One actually goes to 90Mb/sec. I'll have to "play" around with it a little and see what my next move is to get those speeds back up to 11MB/sec like it use to be. ALL the hardware is the same except the version of unraid. Same hardware, same firmware, same switch, same router, same everything. Who knows.

 

 

I'm not sure what to enter for a user share with a space in it, like /mnt/user/TV Series

Any ideas? Tried /TV\ Series but it did not help.

I'm not sure what to enter for a user share with a space in it, like /mnt/user/TV Series

Any ideas? Tried /TV\ Series but it did not help.

 

Maybe try a "%" sign?

 

I always make sure I remove spaces from all my folder names because of weird issues like that.

 

 

I currently use SMB and can watch BluRay rips at their full bitrates with no issues.

 

What are the network settings on the Dune set to?  I think there was something called "experimental gigabit" or something similar that needs to be disabled.

 

I can get read speed numbers later if you'd like to compare.

Maybe try a "%" sign?

 

I always make sure I remove spaces from all my folder names because of weird issues like that.

Nope... tried \040, %20, single and double qoutes around the path, nothing. I've read about creating a symlink to the 'spaced' user share, with a 'friendly' unspaced name, but how can i share that link? If that is even possible?

Did you read this http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=7091.0 ?

Yes, I read that thread. Almost 3 years old. Wow times goes by fast. My network is pretty simple.

Router->8 port GB switch -> Media player

 

The router is the same model and 8 port switch is the same model. Both have the same firmware as it did when I got 11MB/sec speeds. The only thing that has changed is the Dune firmware. That could be slowing me down to 6MB/sec. I'm weary of even trying to downgrade the firmware. I've come to known that process and making a "brick" out of a media player is quite easy. If I don't get lazy tomorrow maybe I'll try to fool around with things, but there isn't much to fool around with. Everything is hard wired and static. I'll upload those two bird files. Most players can play the 60MB/sec file but most can't play the 90MB/sec one. My dune barely plays the first and cannot play the second at all.

 

For people with media players, try to play each of these files with your media player. Play them across your network of course. Playing them on a local hard drive attached to your media player is cheating! Hahahaha.

 

Bird60 - A 60Mbit/sec MKV test file - About 167MB file size

 

Bird90 - A 90Mbit/sec MKV test file - About 242MB file size

 

 

I can play the 60Mbit file just fine with my Popcorn Hour and Dune player but when it comes to the 90Mbit file it is a NO GO. Maybe a second into the file it starts to slow down and almost come to a crawl. I'm curious to see if other people can play either of these ok or not. Give them a try. They aren't very big files.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your links needs a user/password....

Anyway, i've created a symlink to my "/mnt/user/TV Series" folder, which for some reason shows up on disk1, so i've created a NFS share for it, so i could compare speeds on the Dune 3 using both SMB and NFS to that share. The share contains about 48 tv series in HD, approx. 8TB in size, and each series folder contains a dune_folder.txt which the dune has to read and process.

 

Using SMB, every time i have to access the share, the dune shows a popup 'connecting...' for a few seconds, and it takes 5 to 10 seconds to actually show all the series (in a 'metro/wall' like fashion). A read test of a 1080i TS file gives 8.8MB/s. Barely enough, but it works.

 

Using NFS, there is no 'connecting...' popup, the TV series screen is there in 1 or 2 seconds. Read test of the same 1080i TS files gives the full 11MB/s...

 

So, i'm replacing my SMB shares with NFS ones

Are you guys using unraid 5.0 RC8a? Is NFS stable now? I'm willing to try it on my Dune Base 3.0.

I'm using v5.0-rc5.

Your links needs a user/password....

 

Ok, links should work now. Let me know the results. Curious.

 

Bird60 - A 60Mbit/sec MKV test file - About 167MB file size

 

Bird90 - A 90Mbit/sec MKV test file - About 242MB file size

 

 

 

Did you check to see if everything is connected via gigabit?  These speeds seem really slow.  Also I did have a problem with flow control, but don't think you can set flow control on your media devices. 

 

Have you tried to transfer files using a laptop on your gigabit network (wired) using Tara Copy (a freeware copy utility) to see how fast they transfer?  On my SMB shares using a windows laptop copying a 4GB file I will get between 20 and 30MB/S.  All my devices are wired with cat 6, not on WIFI.  I use a Dlink DGS-2208 Gigabit switch.  I have not tried any blue-ray rips yet, as I am still working on my DVD collection.  All my DVD's are uncompressed video streams using makemkv.

 

--Sideband Samurai

I can hook up a laptop right to the same network connection my media player was using and I'll get easily 70MB/sec read speeds. Which all points to the Dune Player. That's why I was hoping others would join in that owned Dune players to try out those test files. Although after upgrading to the latest beta with unraid the performance has dropped considerably. I remember getting read speeds consistently over 100MB/sec. It has dropped a lot from 4.7 to 5.0 rc8a. So it could be the Dune Player AND unraid together with small little issues. Arghhhh...this is all very frustrating. My parity check takes so long now I have to actually "plan" it out when I won't be using my server for a couple of days. It takes that long to check now. I've cancelled my parity check so many times I can't remember.

 

 

The dune has a 100Mbit nic, so it will max out at 11MB/s...

 

With smb i can get max. 8 MB/s, with NFS i get the full 11 MB/s on a read test.

 

The 60Mbit file plays fine, the 90 Mbit file is too much, once over 78Mbit it starts to stutter. My guess is that 78 Mbit + some overhead maxes out the 100 Mbit connection, OR the dune's cpu can't pull it off...

What version of the Dune player do you have (Model number) and what firmware are you running.  Is the firmware up-to-date?

 

-- Sideband Samurai

What version of the Dune player do you have (Model number) and what firmware are you running.  Is the firmware up-to-date?

Dune Prime 3.0 and using the latest firmware. Network/infrastructure is 100% gigabit. The Dune technically has a gigabit nic, but if will only function proper at 100mbit. This is a known issue.  My situation therefore is normal, and the best you can get out of it. There are no reports at all in the Dune community from people getting better or faster results. 11MB/s is the max practical througput of a 100Mbit network, and if you can get that speed with a Dune, it is ok.

I use SMB for both my Dune Smart D1 and PCH-A210.  Both of them have 100 mbit ethernet connection.  The Dune is suppose to have a gigabit ethernet port, but it cannot support it due to the processor being too slow.

 

I've been using SMB since unRaid V4.7, and I've been upgrading every time unraid has a new beta.  I am currently using unraid V5.08a, and it works fine.

 

I had one issue with Star Wars Episode V, which I ripped as full BD ISO.  It lost sound approximately 15 min. into the movie.  I stopped it and started the movie again, and it didn't lose sound again.

 

I did noticed that when Star Wars bitrate went higher than 65 mbit/sec it lost the sound the first time.  I played the same movie in my PCH-A210 and it didn't have an issue losing sound.

I use both NFS and SMB all the time with my Dune D1. I do consistently get 11MB/s and have not had any stuttering problems on any videos. It was suggested before, but try enabling "experimental gigabit" to see if that alters your SMB read speeds. I am not at home right now but I will try the test videos and report back. FYI, gigabit wired network accessing UnRAID 4.7. My Dune is not on the latest firmware, either. I will report version when I get home.

I've tried SMB with 'experimental gigabit' as well, but for some reason, in my infrastructure/network/setup, smb is the lesser part. I was having the same issues when i used smb shares on my former window pc/server with the dune. So i ran a NFS server on it as well to get full speed.

 

I reverted back to smb with unraid because i couldnt get nfs to work on the dune, until yesterday when i realized with unraid you just have to use put the full /mnt/user/... path in the dune.

I forgot to mention my D1 and PCH-A210 have the latest firmware available.  I've also tried enabling "FAST SMB," and it didn't make a difference with speed or playing videos.

I've tried SMB with 'experimental gigabit' as well, but for some reason, in my infrastructure/network/setup, smb is the lesser part. I was having the same issues when i used smb shares on my former window pc/server with the dune. So i ran a NFS server on it as well to get full speed.

 

I reverted back to smb with unraid because i couldnt get nfs to work on the dune, until yesterday when i realized with unraid you just have to use put the full /mnt/user/... path in the dune.

 

That's correct YOU HAVE TO USE the full path /mnt/user/...... just like Jowi said.