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Mini ITX upgrade: Need help!

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Hi guys,

 

I need to upgrade my board/CPU to a board that has a PCI 2.0 slot for my new IBM M1050.  My current setup is:

 

12Tb File Server: Fractal Design Array R2, Intel D510MO / D510 Intel MN10, 4Gb DDR2 800Mhz

 

If possible I would like to stay with Intel.  No budget in mind, but I want to purchase this new motherboard/CPU by Tuesday.

 

The new setup must be able to run addons...

 

Thank you

Not sure what an IBM1050 is, however, I guess that you'll be looking for an old model ITX board for PCI support - newer models tend to be PCIe.

Not sure what an IBM1050 is...

My guess is that it is a typo and like in firmware thread he is refering to IBM M1015.
My guess is that it is a typo and like in firmware thread he is refering to IBM M1015.

... in which case he'd be looking for PCIe support, not PCI?

My guess is that it is a typo and like in firmware thread he is refering to IBM M1015.

... in which case he'd be looking for PCIe support, not PCI?

Which was also a typo probably.  Although there probably was a 2.0 version of PCI the ones I've heard about were 2.1 or maybe 2.2.  Whereas 2.0 always makes me think PCIe.  Really which they had come up with a better name >:( for PCIe.  They changed to PCI from ISA when PCI came out so why not again with the new serial standard.
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My bad, both typo's!

 

Any suggestions on new board/cpu?

My bad, both typo's!

 

Any suggestions on new board/cpu?

You want to stay Mini ITX - correct?  Are you going to have it be headless (no keyboard or monitor)?
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You want to stay Mini ITX - correct?  Are you going to have it be headless (no keyboard or monitor)?

 

Yes as I don't want to change case etc yet.  Completely headless like I am now  :)

You want to stay Mini ITX - correct?  Are you going to have it be headless (no keyboard or monitor)?

 

Yes as I don't want to change case etc yet.  Completely headless like I am now  :)

If you can find one of these it has ITX form factor with IPMI for complete headless access.  It includes the CPU so you don't need to purchase that similar to your D510 Intel MN10.  At Newegg it is $700 - so expensive.
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Is their any benefits of dual 1Gbps over a single 1Gbps port?

 

Any suggestions for a motherboard for me?

 

These boards look ok?

 

ASRock FM2A85X-ITX FM2 AMD A85X - I'd have to buy new RAM and maybe a bigger ITX case; are their any big ones? 10 drive+ or should I get a bigger case?

 

ASUS P8H77-I - Looks ok.

 

 

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Any advice? I am really hoping to order these parts tonight/tomorrow?

Any advice? I am really hoping to order these parts tonight/tomorrow?

 

I have the FM2A85X-ITX and it's really awesome. Great quality and 7 SATAIII ports :)

I have the ASUS P8H77-I and it's a great board.  No issues at all with unRAID. 

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FM2A85X-ITX is doing it for me at the moment with seven SATA ports! But I'm not sure if I have a CPU to fit! I got loads of spare RAM etc so that'll be no problem, hopefully I'll have a heatsink somewhere...

FM2A85X-ITX is doing it for me at the moment with seven SATA ports! But I'm not sure if I have a CPU to fit! I got loads of spare RAM etc so that'll be no problem, hopefully I'll have a heatsink somewhere...

 

The cheapest FM2 socket CPU on Newegg is $54.99

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Is the AMD A4 5300 CPU any good for a NAS running addons?

Is the AMD A4 5300 CPU any good for a NAS running addons?

 

Absolutely. I run an A6-5400k, which is only a little faster than than the A4. A4-5300 and an FM2A85X-ITX would be a terrific combo.

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Would the CPU be fine for running multiple add-ons such as NZB, rsync etc or would you advise that I get the fastest CPU possible for this board?

Would the CPU be fine for running multiple add-ons such as NZB, rsync etc or would you advise that I get the fastest CPU possible for this board?

 

I run multiple add-ons on the A6 and it works great. Obviously getting a better processor might make it run faster, but how much faster I can't say. Not worth the jump in price I'd imagine unless you're Mr. Moneybags. :)

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The Asrock only has one PCI slot (Have two expansion cards, although one won't be in use as I'll get another IBM M1050) according to: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/ASRock-FM2A85X-ITX-Motherboard/1735/8 but has 7 SATA ports...

 

Offical Specs: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?cat=Specifications&Model=FM2A85X-ITX

 

But the MSI board has three PCI slots, 6 SATA ports.  The MSI board looks as though their is a lot of room to expand due to the PCI ports.

 

Offical Specs: http://uk.msi.com/product/mb/FM2-A85XMA-E35.html#?div=Detail

 

What do you think?  I'm hoping to buy this tonight :)

 

Update

 

Would a 200MHz "bonus" make a big enough difference to Unraid for add-ons etc

The Asrock only has one PCI slot (Have two expansion cards, although one won't be in use as I'll get another IBM M1050) according to: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/ASRock-FM2A85X-ITX-Motherboard/1735/8 but has 7 SATA ports...

 

Offical Specs: http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?cat=Specifications&Model=FM2A85X-ITX

 

But the MSI board has three PCI slots, 6 SATA ports.  The MSI board looks as though their is a lot of room to expand due to the PCI ports.

 

Offical Specs: http://uk.msi.com/product/mb/FM2-A85XMA-E35.html#?div=Detail

 

What do you think?  I'm hoping to buy this tonight :)

 

Update

 

Would a 200MHz "bonus" make a big enough difference to Unraid for add-ons etc

 

Well if you're using a FD Array R2, where do you expect to put more than 6 HDDs? Also, the MSI board is a MicroATX board, not miniITX. As for the 200Mhz difference, you won't see much of an improvement I'd imagine. The one possible advantage the A6 would have is that it's unlocked and can be overclocked. However, I'm not even sure unRAID supports OC'ed CPUs. See this:

 

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-A6-5400K-vs-AMD-A4-5300 (I would disregard the 3DMark11 Physics score comparison, something seems wrong about that)

You shouldn't just count PCI connectors/slots..also type (PCI / PCI-X / PCIe) and - in case of PCIe - slot length and power lanes (like x4 in x8 slot) matters.

 

Also, the MSI board you are referring to is micro-ATX, not mini-ITX.  ???

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