I have some bluray folders (with BDMV and the like) I'd like to convert to ISO so they're packed up in a single file..

 

The tools usually used for this are mkisofs or genisoimage; with a normal linux I'd just apt-get install those and be off, but not sure where to go with the Slackyness unRaid is using..

Are you saying that you want the conversion to happen on the unRAID box itself, or, do you just want to make compress a folder structure into a single file (maybe from a workstation)?

 

If the latter, are you stuck on ISO?  If not, I prefer MKV:  http://makemkv.com/

 

John

Are you saying that you want the conversion to happen on the unRAID box itself, or, do you just want to make compress a folder structure into a single file (maybe from a workstation)?

 

Preferably the former, so I could avoid copying the movie two directions whilst doing the conversion (Unraid -> Mac -> Unraid), and also so I could script it in a sabNZBD post process script.

 

If the latter, are you stuck on ISO?  If not, I prefer MKV:  http://makemkv.com/

 

Yeah, do want ISO and not MKV... MKV is a great container, but for full 1:1 archival I'd prefer to stay ISO...

You do understand that ISO's are becoming obsolete due to few media players being able to play them due to licensing issues.  I used to rip my movies in ISO, but now I've got everything going as MKV.  I've got a few M2TS, but pretty much everything is MKV now.

 

However, if you want ISO's, you will need to rip them as suck with a ripping software such as AnyDVD HD, DVDFab or ImgBurn (fee software).

However, if you want ISO's, you will need to rip them as suck with a ripping software such as AnyDVD HD, DVDFab or ImgBurn (fee software).

 

Not true.  It's easy to convert from a folder structure to ISO's using any of several Windows-based utilities that can do this (e.g. DVDFab).  Not sure about Linux-based utilities, but I suspect the same is true for those.

I used to rip my movies in ISO, but now I've got everything going as MKV.

 

ISO and MKV is not the same thing. A complete BR structure can be converted into a single ISO file, this retains the menu's and other interactivity.

 

Using MKV will loose the menu structure, i.e. usually only the main movie is put in MKV.

 

I am using a Dune media player (one made before the cinavia topic appeared) and it plays happily ISOs and I can enjoy blu-rays to the full extend, as should be

 

Btw using DVDfab on windows to do this.

You do understand that ISO's are becoming obsolete due to few media players being able to play them due to licensing issues.  I used to rip my movies in ISO, but now I've got everything going as MKV.  I've got a few M2TS, but pretty much everything is MKV now.

Bare in mind that most mkv's are re-encoded. And usually the primary goal is to make the file smaller, thereby lowering quality... they usually lower the bitrate a lot, using more compression. Most of it i done by people or scriptkiddies who haven't got a clue what they are doing. There reference is how the movie looks on an iphone or ipad... Once you know how re-encoding manifests itself in the image, you WILL see it... ok maybe not on a iphone or 28" tv, but still. Quality is less. And why did we want bluray? Precisely. For the IMAGE QUALITY

 

If you find an mkv that has an untouched, remuxed (NOT re-encoded!!!) m2ts with some soundtracks and some subs, you should ask yourself why you want that 24GB mkv over the actual bluray... since the bluray still offers you the menu's, the extra's etc. and is just a wee bit larger

I agree with jowi that it's amazing how many folks seem to think recompression to a smaller size is somehow "magic" and doesn't impact quality.    Reminds me of how MP3 replaced CDs ...everyone seemed to think a 650MB CD compressed down to 30MB (or less) was somehow just as good.  Of course just as today's video viewing standard is often an iPad or iPhone, the listening standard then was often earbuds ... clearly they've never heard my Klipschorns 

 

If you're watching your video on a 60-70" TV, or an even larger projector, it's very unlikely you'll want to significantly compress it !!

 

I agree with jowi that it's amazing how many folks seem to think recompression to a smaller size is somehow "magic" and doesn't impact quality.    Reminds me of how MP3 replaced CDs ...everyone seemed to think a 650MB CD compressed down to 30MB (or less) was somehow just as good.  Of course just as today's video viewing standard is often an iPad or iPhone, the listening standard then was often earbuds ... clearly they've never heard my Klipschorns 

 

If you're watching your video on a 60-70" TV, or an even larger projector, it's very unlikely you'll want to significantly compress it !!

 

Agreed! There is still some life in ISOs.

Don't get me wrong, I love .mkv containers packed with a 720p x264 encode for most movies..

 

But some movies are worth having a full 1:1 copy, with all the features/menus/etc..

 

XBMC can't play the menus yet, but libbluray seems to be working on it...

 

Meantime, I've tried some options on the Mac, like AnyToISO, but it takes a folder stucture that XBMC can play, and turns it into an ISO it can't play

I use makemkv to make a 1:1 uncompressed mkv and if I want to watch the special features I just pop the disc in.  Does anybody know of any software that will play blu rays that isn't one of the expensive players like powerDVD that plays with no issues.

 

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I use makemkv to make a 1:1 uncompressed mkv and if I want to watch the special features I just pop the disc in.  Does anybody know of any software that will play blu rays that isn't one of the expensive players like powerDVD that plays with no issues.

 

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That has always been what I did.  I don't care about extras.  All I want is an uncompressed main movie with only the best audio track and forced engish subs.  Makemkv fits the bill perfectly.

I don't care about extras either.  I just care about the main movie + HD audio track.  I'm not sure where you guys come with compression.  MakeMKV, ClownBD, etc doesn't compress anything.  The Picture Quality is as good as from playing it from the BD.

 

I too have a Dune Smart Series D1, and I hate how long it takes to load up an ISO.  I had a few ISO movies, and it would take about 4 min to load up.  None of the new generation media players support ISO's due to Cinavia. 

None of the new generation media players support ISO's due to Cinavia.

ISO support has nothing to do with cinavia. If you create an mkv of a cinavia protected bluray, the mkv will have cinavia protection as well and will not play on a player that supports cinavia. Cinavia adds a 'watermark' to the audio tracks that will survive copying and re-encoding. Furthermore, all Dune players still support ISO and BDMV. If your mediaplayer does not support iso or bdmv, buy one that does

 

My point was that a lot of mkv's you 'find' on usenet, are (bad) x264 re-encodes, about 6 to 8 GB. Just a few are 1:1 copies containing the full, untouched movie with ome audio and subs, and those mkv's will be 20, 25 or 30GB... about as big as the entire disk, so why bother. Just get or use the entire disk. Using the menu's Seriously, if you don't care for menu's, just the moviestream would suffice, but i think the extra's on a disk are nice to have, also selecting subtitles is easier.

 

Nowadays you see that the next generation of mediaplayers is not able to start a bluray through the menu's. The reason for this is new and improved bluray license fee's. In stead of menu's those players offer some sort of 'bluray light' option, where the streams are shown in some ordered list on screen. For a movie bluray this is ok, just select track 1, or the largest one. However, for tv show bluray's, 'light' does not work. A tv show bluray has 4 or 5 episodes, and the order they are stored on disk is almost never the sequence of the tv show. Episode 1 is track4, episode 2 is track1 etc. So that is also why i want a full disk, with menu's. All the time you would spend on makemkv for such a disk is a waste of time and serves no purpose.

None of the new generation media players support ISO's due to Cinavia.

ISO support has nothing to do with cinavia. If you create an mkv of a cinavia protected bluray, the mkv will have cinavia protection as well and will not play on a player that supports cinavia. Cinavia adds a 'watermark' to the audio tracks that will survive copying and re-encoding. Furthermore, all Dune players still support ISO and BDMV. If your mediaplayer does not support iso or bdmv, buy one that does

 

My point was that a lot of mkv's you 'find' on usenet, are (bad) x264 re-encodes, about 6 to 8 GB. Just a few are 1:1 copies containing the full, untouched movie with ome audio and subs, and those mkv's will be 20, 25 or 30GB... about as big as the entire disk, so why bother. Just get or use the entire disk. Using the menu's Seriously, if you don't care for menu's, just the moviestream would suffice, but i think the extra's on a disk are nice to have, also selecting subtitles is easier.

 

Nowadays you see that the next generation of mediaplayers is not able to start a bluray through the menu's. The reason for this is new and improved bluray license fee's. In stead of menu's those players offer some sort of 'bluray light' option, where the streams are shown in some ordered list on screen. For a movie bluray this is ok, just select track 1, or the largest one. However, for tv show bluray's, 'light' does not work. A tv show bluray has 4 or 5 episodes, and the order they are stored on disk is almost never the sequence of the tv show. Episode 1 is track4, episode 2 is track1 etc. So that is also why i want a full disk, with menu's. All the time you would spend on makemkv for such a disk is a waste of time and serves no purpose.

 

As I've mentioned before I own a Dune Smart Series D1 media player.  They support ISO and folder structure.  I don't download movies of the internet.  I rip my own content as MKV with HD and AC3 audio tracks, with subs and flag the correct forced subtitle, and my D1 will recognize that.

None of the new generation media players support ISO's due to Cinavia.

ISO support has nothing to do with cinavia. If you create an mkv of a cinavia protected bluray, the mkv will have cinavia protection as well and will not play on a player that supports cinavia. Cinavia adds a 'watermark' to the audio tracks that will survive copying and re-encoding. Furthermore, all Dune players still support ISO and BDMV. If your mediaplayer does not support iso or bdmv, buy one that does

 

My point was that a lot of mkv's you 'find' on usenet, are (bad) x264 re-encodes, about 6 to 8 GB. Just a few are 1:1 copies containing the full, untouched movie with ome audio and subs, and those mkv's will be 20, 25 or 30GB... about as big as the entire disk, so why bother. Just get or use the entire disk. Using the menu's Seriously, if you don't care for menu's, just the moviestream would suffice, but i think the extra's on a disk are nice to have, also selecting subtitles is easier.

 

this is not accurate.

 

Rush for example, is 27GB remux. the full BluRay is 44GB. thats a difference of 17GB.

 

You could fit 3 remux versus 2 full BR disk rips.

It all depends on the disk's content... some have no extra's at all, and the difference will be almost none.