April 28, 201511 yr I use a PC to run Openelec for my lounge TV setup and several RasPI's around the house for other TV's. They all use TVHeadend and play media files from my unraid server. I find that lossless HD audio files work very from the PC setup. The pulse eight adapter for the PC enables me to hide my AVR and PC in the attic and control all with the Samsung TV remote. It works really well. I think the Openelec VM would work well for me as long as I could pass through the pulse eight adapter. It really is a deal breaker. One way or another you could do it. Option A would be to pass through just the usb device, but not all devices work with that method. Option B would be to pass through an entire usb controller, which would definitely work.
April 28, 201511 yr Looks like it's time to go shopping for a GPU for my new Openelec VM! Any suggestions? 3D support, 4k and HD audio through PCM are required
April 28, 201511 yr Looks like it's time to go shopping for a GPU for my new Openelec VM! Any suggestions? 3D support, 4k and HD audio through PCM are required Just OpenELEC? Any desires to do gaming or anything else? Keep in mind, you could easily alternate the VM the GPU is assigned to without rebooting the host.
April 28, 201511 yr No gaming. Just movies, TV and playing 24/192 music files through PCM to AVR. Ok, not sure on what PCM requires from a GPU exactly. I would recommend an NVIDIA device at this time though as they seem to be more easier to work with and have better support for UEFI which will be important in the future. Lower end cards include the GTX 750. You can go even lower end than that technically.
April 28, 201511 yr Ok thanks. Like Saarg, as my x16 slot is already taken, it means it's time for a motherboard upgrade too. Don't mind though, as my HTPC will become redundant and make an appearance on eBay to recover costs
April 28, 201511 yr I posted this in another thread. It will end up getting linked in the wiki too. Its a spreadsheet of known good working hardware configurations with GPU pass through on KVM: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Aryg5nO-kBebdFozaW9tUWdVd2VHM0lvck95TUlpMlE&usp=drive_web#gid=0 It includes GPUs, motherboards, and processors. You can ignore the other columns about kernel build. Just know that we don't support integrated graphics pass through.
April 28, 201511 yr Is it best to install the the Openelec VM onto a SSD outside of the array? I would think only a small size of drive would be needed. Is snap the best way to achieve this? Any input on the required number of cores and minimum memory to run this VM well?
April 28, 201511 yr Is it best to install the the Openelec VM onto a SSD outside of the array? I would think only a small size of drive would be needed. Is snap the best way to achieve this? Any input on the required number of cores and minimum memory to run this VM well? No need to install to install it to outside the array. The entire VM is 150MB and loads into RAM. Just put it on the cache drive.
April 28, 201511 yr Jonp, which fanless / silent cards have you tested OpenELEC with. I have a HD5450 I'd like to use. I know it's not NVidia, but if it can be made to work that would be great. It might be worthwhile for LT to invest in one ($35CDN) to work with as I believe this is a very popular HTPC card since DTS-HD and DolbyHD both work with this card flawlessly.
April 28, 201511 yr Jonp, which fanless / silent cards have you tested OpenELEC with. I have a HD5450 I'd like to use. I know it's not NVidia, but if it can be made to work that would be great. It might be worthwhile for LT to invest in one ($35CDN) to work with as I believe this is a very popular HTPC card since DTS-HD and DolbyHD both work with this card flawlessly. Yeah, we have the 5450 and it works fine. I need to put a complete list of all the test hardware we have here and list it in the Wiki. Let me just put that on the never-ending to-do list ;-).
April 28, 201511 yr Jonp, which fanless / silent cards have you tested OpenELEC with. I have a HD5450 I'd like to use. I know it's not NVidia, but if it can be made to work that would be great. It might be worthwhile for LT to invest in one ($35CDN) to work with as I believe this is a very popular HTPC card since DTS-HD and DolbyHD both work with this card flawlessly. Yeah, we have the 5450 and it works fine. I need to put a complete list of all the test hardware we have here and list it in the Wiki. Let me just put that on the never-ending to-do list ;-). thanks jonp, that'll save me $75!! so when is this OpenELEC VM going to be available?
May 23, 201511 yr I mentioned this in another thread as well. We have two pieces left on this: 1) Submission of pull request to OpenELEC team. 2) Inclusion of VM template in VM Manager to automate the download/setup process. Both of these are slated for completion before the release of 6.0, but not until we complete other bug fixes.
May 23, 201511 yr What kind of reception have you received from the OE team? In the past any time virtualization was mentioned they got all weird and defensive.
May 23, 201511 yr What kind of reception have you received from the OE team? In the past any time virtualization was mentioned they got all weird and defensive. They told us to submit the pull request so they could see what was required. There is a 50/50 shot between them supporting it officially vs. us just maintaining a fork.
May 23, 201511 yr What kind of reception have you received from the OE team? In the past any time virtualization was mentioned they got all weird and defensive. They told us to submit the pull request so they could see what was required. There is a 50/50 shot between them supporting it officially vs. us just maintaining a fork. it's something that could be mutually beneficial for both OE and LT, it would be a bad choice on their behalf to not support it.
May 23, 201511 yr i'll expand. i should imagine a fair few people come to unraid (i certainly did) looking to house large media collections, an officially supported image of kodi via OE would increase the visibility of LT and give OE another install base.
May 23, 201511 yr i'll expand. i should imagine a fair few people come to unraid (i certainly did) looking to house large media collections, an officially supported image of kodi via OE would increase the visibility of LT and give OE another install base. This is also how we see it, but it definitely seems like the team over there has gone through this before and has some bad feelings leftover about virtualization. I think with our focus on supporting it with GPU pass through and with KVM will substantially simplify support. To be clear though, it is our goal to get this VM released, regardless of what the OE team wants to do. So if we have to continue maintaining that fork, we will.
May 27, 201511 yr Is there any chance you could release the version your using as a beta or even an alpha test? I tried multiple times to get openelec working even going as far as trying to compile my own version but I could never get it to work properly. I've been using kodibuntu since november last year but that's got issues with passing through DTS etc (at least for me) to my amp that I don't get with openelec. I don't think any of us would expect any support from you guys, I wouldn't want to distract you from working on the final release of Unraid 6 but it'd be good to have a play with it.
May 27, 201511 yr What kind of reception have you received from the OE team? In the past any time virtualization was mentioned they got all weird and defensive. They told us to submit the pull request so they could see what was required. There is a 50/50 shot between them supporting it officially vs. us just maintaining a fork. it's something that could be mutually beneficial for both OE and LT, it would be a bad choice on their behalf to not support it. They did in fact release a VM for a long time. It was simply unsupportable as it broke on every other update. Even when it did work virtually no one used it. For reference though it was the the virtual GPU drivers that usually broke but if you insist on GPU pass through that should make it vastly simpler. The best way to get team OE to maintain it is the way you always go about these things. Make it work, show its useful, support it for a while and push it upstream. We face two problems: not supporting all the Virtual platforms. Showing it can work well on one should be a good enough start but there will be community pushback on this OE side likely. keeping up with releases. Team OE are much more active than us in pushing out releases (3 since march). We would need to keep up with all the betas etc or we risk not getting a critical fix in before RC/stable
May 27, 201511 yr Im in the same boat as a couple of other posters and dont have a spare PCI-e slot for a graphics card to pass through... As this matures and graphics cards appear with x265 decoding and hdmi 2.0, that might be enough to push me over the edge and upgrade the mobo... been eyeing up a dual cpu motherboard for a while now and need an excuse to pull the trigger! Also means i need to buy a 4k capable av receiver and tv though... quite an expensive upgrade Im blaming you guys when my other half starts asking questions!
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