May 19, 201610 yr Hey guys, hopefully you can help me out here. Im using a TYAN server with 6 drives bays. I initially created a 4 drive array (3disk, 1 parity) and since then I have been trying to get it to let me add a larger drive for parity I have followed the procedure on how to do it the disks always fail out with the same pattern....the disk reads shoot up into the 14 million mark, and then I get disk errors it fails the drive and Im back to the start. I have been running preclear on these disk and its always competes with no issues. the logs show something along these lines....there is no cables to be loose or anything like that as these all use drive trays. Thoughts May 19 05:33:59 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:33:59 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:33:59 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:00 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:00 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:00 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:01 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:01 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:01 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:01 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:01 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:01 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:02 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:02 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:02 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:03 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:03 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:03 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:04 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:04 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:04 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:04 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:04 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:04 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:05 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:05 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:05 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:06 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:06 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:06 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:07 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:07 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:07 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:07 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:07 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:07 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:08 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:08 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:08 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:09 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:09 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:09 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:09 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:09 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:09 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link May 19 05:34:10 Tower kernel: ata5: SATA link down (SStatus 100 SControl 300) May 19 05:34:10 Tower kernel: ata5: EH complete May 19 05:34:10 Tower kernel: ata5: hard resetting link
May 19, 201610 yr Author THis is the 4 drive now that has done the same thing....I would like if the community could walk me through this process I can provide any info as needed. Here is the SMART Report for the drive I would like to replace for my parity disk smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-4.1.18-unRAID] (local build) Copyright © 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Device Model: C WD30EZRX-00MMMB0 € Serial Number: WD-WCAWZ2748415 Firmware Version: .00A80WD Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall] ATA Version is: Unknown(0x0000) (unknown minor revision code: 0x746b) Local Time is: Thu May 19 05:46:59 2016 CST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled Warning! SMART Attribute Data Structure error: invalid SMART checksum. Warning! SMART Attribute Thresholds Structure error: invalid SMART checksum. === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED See vendor-specific Attribute list for marginal Attributes. General SMART Values: Offline data collection status: (0x00) Offline data collection activity was never started. Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled. Total time to complete Offline data collection: ( 0) seconds. Offline data collection capabilities: (0x00) Offline data collection not supported. SMART capabilities: (0x0000) Automatic saving of SMART data is not implemented. Error logging capability: (0x00) Error logging NOT supported. General Purpose Logging supported. SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 --- Pre-fail Always - 0 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 166 159 --- Pre-fail Always - 8691 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 13 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 --- Pre-fail Always - 0 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 100 253 --- Old_age Always - 0 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 61 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 --- Old_age Always - 0 11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 --- Old_age Always - 0 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 --- Old_age Always - 13 192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 --- Old_age Always - 11 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 --- Old_age Always - 52 194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 126 111 --- Old_age Always - 26 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 --- Old_age Always - 0 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 --- Old_age Always - 0 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 253 --- Old_age Offline - 0 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 --- Old_age Always - 0 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 200 Old_age Offline FAILING_NOW 0 SMART Error Log Version: 0 No Errors Logged SMART Self-test log structure revision number 0 Warning: ATA Specification requires self-test log structure revision number = 1 No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t] Selective Self-tests/Logging not supported
May 19, 201610 yr Author Here is a screen shot of when it failed last time following the procedure on how to replace your parity disk
May 19, 201610 yr Community Expert 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 200 Old_age Offline FAILING_NOW 0 Parity disk has a failing now attribute and should be replaced.
May 19, 201610 yr Author im guessing that was maybe from when I had the 3 TB drive and was doing to copy parity. the current parity disk shows this...... 200 Multi zone error rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old age Offline Never 0
May 19, 201610 yr Author whats making me scratch my head is im on the 4th disk now, that i have done preclear on and as soon as i put it into the array it fails out in the same manner every other one of them
May 19, 201610 yr Community Expert im guessing that was maybe from when I had the 3 TB drive and was doing to copy parity. the current parity disk shows this...... 200 Multi zone error rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old age Offline Never 0 Could you clarify the bolded part above? What exactly were you doing / going to do / whatever? Copying parity is not a normal operation though it is part of the parity swap disable procedure. And post the diagnostics again since you think the one you posted before did not give us the correct information.
May 19, 201610 yr Author I rebooted after the parity drive swap failed. Looking at the logs I think they got dumped after the restart. My main question right now is the disk that shows up as "sde". Passes smart tests and preclear with no issues, does anyone see a reason that this should fail when I try to make it the new parity disk. ? Is there any difference when doing a parity disk swap and copying the parity vs doing a new config and building parity from scratch that way? Not sure if that works.
May 19, 201610 yr Community Expert I rebooted after the parity drive swap failed. Looking at the logs I think they got dumped after the restart. My main question right now is the disk that shows up as "sde". Passes smart tests and preclear with no issues, does anyone see a reason that this should fail when I try to make it the new parity disk. ? Is there any difference when doing a parity disk swap and copying the parity vs doing a new config and building parity from scratch that way? Not sure if that works. The normal way to replace parity has nothing to do with copying parity. In fact, the normal way assumes the original parity disk is not even installed so there is no way to copy it. This is why I am confused when you talk about copying parity. Replacing parity and new config are basically the same thing. Both rebuild parity from all of the data disks. There is never any copying of parity either way. The swap disable procedure is a special method that allows you to use a larger parity disk when you already have a data disk disabled. If this is not what you are trying to do then we needn't go into that further. And we still don't have any diagnostics that show us the disks you are actually trying to work with.
May 19, 201610 yr Author Guess maybe I'm making this more complicated then it should be.....let me start at the beginning I have sda - 1 TB - Parity sdb - 1 TB - Data sdc - 1 TB - Data sdd - 1 TB - Data I want to replace sda with a 3 TB disk I have ran preclear on this drive and it passes, also SMART test pass'es What procedure should I follow to replace this drive? I have been following this one... https://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php/The_parity_swap_procedure (im going to get everything back to original state, reboot, post new logs and wait for your direction before I do anything else.)
May 19, 201610 yr Community Expert Guess maybe I'm making this more complicated then it should be.....let me start at the beginning I have sda - 1 TB - Parity sdb - 1 TB - Data sdc - 1 TB - Data sdd - 1 TB - Data I want to replace sda with a 3 TB disk I have ran preclear on this drive and it passes, also SMART test pass'es What procedure should I follow to replace this drive? I have been following this one... https://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php/The_parity_swap_procedure (im going to get everything back to original state, reboot, post new logs and wait for your direction before I do anything else.) Yes, you are definitely making this too complicated. The parity swap / swap disable procedure is not the normal way to replace parity. That is only needed if you already have a disabled data disk and you want to upgrade the parity disk and use the old parity disk to rebuild the bad data disk onto. Did you actually read the introductory paragraphs of that page you linked? Just stop the array, assign the new parity disk as parity, and start the array. Parity will be built onto the new disk. This will work assuming you don't actually have any problems we don't know about.
May 19, 201610 yr Author So I did that....stopped array rebooted, assigned the new drive, started the array.....looks good so far, but i have gotten this far before and it bombs out
May 19, 201610 yr Community Expert it failed..... ...and now post the diagnostics so we can see both the current state and what lead up to the failure.
May 19, 201610 yr Community Expert im guessing that was maybe from when I had the 3 TB drive and was doing to copy parity. the current parity disk shows this...... 200 Multi zone error rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old age Offline Never 0 [name] => parity [device] => sde [id] => WDC_WD30EZRX-00MMMB0_WD-WCAWZ2748415 Current parity is the same disk with the failing now SMART, though it dropped offline as there's no SMART info. Device Model: C WD30EZRX-00MMMB0 € Serial Number: WD-WCAWZ2748415 200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 100 253 200 Old_age Offline FAILING_NOW 0
May 19, 201610 yr Author what stumps me is I have pre-cleared disk on this server, and also another test unraid server to make sure disk was good....it only fails out when I bring it into the array....
May 19, 201610 yr Is it possible you are overloading your power supply? Tell us about your PSU and your system, what it is and how many drives. About the failing SMART indicator, I'm wondering if there's a bug in the firmware, causing a faulty THRESHOLD change (it's not supposed to change! Or be 200!).
May 19, 201610 yr Author Its a TYAN Model: Custom M/B: TYAN - S2912/S2912-E CPU: AMD @ 2500 It uses a 750 Watt power supply....i ran 6 drives under window for the last two years and had no issues.... right now it only has 5 drives in it....i do two reboots drive comes back and all the smart stuff says it passed...it to the array and it blows up.
May 19, 201610 yr Pure speculation, but is it possible there is an issue with the USB drive (improper format, greater then 32gb, corruption, etc.) that might cause this weird behavior? Also tell us more about your hardware, Motherboard, Controller Cards, etc.
May 19, 201610 yr Community Expert If you could tell us the exact model of power supply that would help. Even though it says 750 it is possible that all of that power is not available to the drives. And building parity will require all drives at once.
May 19, 201610 yr Author I stand corrected its a 460 watt power supply pic is attached. Server is a rackmount, no monitor, just the usb key to run unraid. It always used all 6 drives till i came to unraid last month....I was doing a mirrored array for windows, and 4 disk raid5 setup for the last two years to store media. I wanted something to do GPT and use all 6 drives thus i found unraid and now now im just trying to get back to all 6 drives and a bigger parity disk for future growth 16 gig memory 2 quad core proc's gig network 32 gig usb drive Here is the motherboard specs Processor Supported CPU Series AMD 45nm Quad-Core Opteron 2300/2400 Series Processors (Shanghai / Istanbul) / Support AMD Dual Dynamic Power Management (DDPM) feature / Support AMD HyperTransport (HT1 and HT3) Technology Socket Type / Q'ty LGA 1207-pin / (2) Thermal Design Power (TDP) wattage 137W(Quad-Core) / 120W(Dual-Core) System Bus Up to 4.4 GT/s Hyper-Transport link support Chipset Chipset NVIDIA NFP3600 Super I/O Winbond W83627 Memory Supported DIMM Qty ( DIMM slots DIMM Type / Speed Registered ECC DDR2 / 800/667/533 Capacity Up to 64GB Memory channel 2 Channels per CPU Memory voltage 1.8V Expansion Slots HTX (1) HTX slot PCI-E (1) PCI-E x16 slot / (1) PCI-E x16 slot (w/ x8 link) Recommended TYAN Riser Card M2083-RS, PCI-E x16 1U riser card (left) / M2061, PCI-E x8 to PCI-X 1U riser card (left) Recommended Barebone / Chassis 1U Barebone GT24-B2912-E LAN Port Q'ty (2) PHY Marvell 88E1121R Storage IDE Channel Single channel Controller NFP 3600 SAS Connector (4) SAS Controller LSI SAS1064E Speed 3.0 Gb/s RAID RAID 0/1/1E (LSI Integrated RAID) SATA Connector (6) SATA Controller NFP 3600 Speed 3.0 Gb/s RAID RAID 0/1/0+1/5 (NV RAID) Graphic Connector type D-Sub 15-pin Resolution Up to 1600x1200 Chipset ATI ES1000 Video RAM 32MB Input /Output USB ( USB 2.0 ports (2 at rear, 6 via cable) COM (2) ports (1 at rear, 1 via cable) PS/2 (1) PS/2 connector SAS (4) SAS connectors VGA (1) D-Sub 15-pin VGA port RJ-45 (2) GbE ports / (1) RJ-45 port for IPMI SO-DIMM (1) SO-DIMM slot for optional TYAN SMDC M3295-2/ M3296 LCM (1) 3x2-pin LCD module header LPT (1) LPT header Power SSI 24-pin + 8-pin + 4-pin power connectors / EPS12V TYFP II (1) 2x6-pin TYAN front panel header (TYFP-II) Front Panel (1) 2x9-pin TYAN front panel header (TYFP-I) FDD (1) FDD connector IDE (1) IDE connector SATA (6) SATA-II connectors System Monitoring Chipset ADT7476 Voltage Monitors voltage for CPU, memory, chipset & power supply Fan Total (6) 4-pin headers Temperature Monitors temperature for CPU & system environment LED Fan fail LED indicator / Over temperature warning indicator Others Chassis intrusion detection / Watchdog timer support Server Management Optional SMDC M3295-2 IPMI 2.0 remote system management card M3295-2 Feature Renesas H8S2167 Baseboard Management Controller (BMC) / Supports remote power on/off and reset (IPMI over LAN) / Dedicated management NIC / Card interface: OPMA 200-pin DDR2 SO-DIMM socket / SOL (remote serial console redirect over LAN) BIOS Brand / ROM size Phoenix / 1MB Feature Plug and Play (PnP) /PCI2.3 /WfM2.0 /SMBIOS2.3 /PXE boot / ACPI 2.0 power management /Power on mode after power recovery / User-configurable H/W monitoring / Auto-configurable of hard disk types / Multiple boot options Physical Dimension Form Factor EATX Board Dimension 12"x13" (305x330mm) Operating System OS supported list Please refer to our AMD OS supported list. Regulation FCC (DoC) Class B CE (DoC) Yes Operating Environment Operating Temp. 10° C ~ 35° C (50° F~ 95° F) Non-operating Temp. - 40° C ~ 70° C (-40° F ~ 158° F) In/Non-operating Humidity 90%, non-condensing at 35° C RoHS RoHS 6/6 Compliant Yes Package Contains Motherboard (1) S2912 Motherboard Manual (1) User's manual / (1) Quick Ref. Guide Installation CD (1) TYAN installation CD I/O Shield (1) I/O Shield Cable IDE (1) IDE cable SATA (6) SATA signal cables / (3) SATA 1-to-2 power cables SAS (2) SAS cables Others (1) 34-pin FDD cable Optional accessories SMDC IPMI Card M3295-2 Riser Card M2083-RS, PCI-E 1U riser card (left) / M2061, PCI-E x8 to PCI-X 1U riser card (left)
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