March 23, 201016 yr Hi. This might of been mentioned as an idea before, but I was thinking that it would be great to have a Windows client/application (or Linux alternative for those using Linux) to setup and monitor a unraid server. The FEMUR plug in is good and gives you some stats on your server, but not everyone uses Firefox (I wouldn't know why not though ) but it would be great to just have one central app that can: 1). Monitor a unraid server (possibly multiple servers for those who have more than one) 2). Alert the user via a popup or system tray notification that something is wrong with their server (ie: faulty disk, low disk space, high temp, low mem, no connection to the server, etc...) 3). Have an help.chm file embedded into it for some basic help tips or frequently asked questions (great for newbies) 4). For the configuring side of things, have a basic drop-down menu and text field interface (much like a replica to unraid webgui server site), but requiring authorization first before a user can configure the server 5). An option to shutdown/restart the server too would be great also To me, the benefits are obvious, though some senior unraid users/members might rule that it might be a niche request/feature. I for one would like to see this implemented (even just for the monitoring side of things) and I'm sure that this would be welcomed by newbies to unraid too, to help ease the learning curve somewhat. Your thoughts.... Thanks.
March 24, 201016 yr Author , I see where your going with this... but for newbies, they won't even know how to even get unmenu installed and working on unraid. I'm just hinting the other features as well as extras, I know that the web interface on a bog standard unraid server is quite simple, but even just to have the monitoring side of things in a client under Windows/Linux would be good enough, the rest of the features is just icing on the cake I guess for those who are beginners. everythings in the basic web gui/unmenu besides the pop up
March 24, 201016 yr im a linux noob it took all of 2 minutes to install unmenu (infact, i did it all from windows). you just unzip contents then paste a line into the go script. if they cant follow that they probably cant follow an installer for a windows app to connect to a remote ubnraid server, setting up port forwarding, firewall etc.
March 24, 201016 yr Author Ok, maybe scrap the configuration side of things for my idea (I was under predicting newbies, my apologies ), but I would be safe to say that people would like to have a client which monitors your unraid server and have the monitoring features that I suggested in my first post? Again, the senior folk or others might not want or need it, but personally I would like to have a one-stop-shop to have a monitoring client which can present all status's of your unraid server in one view, without opening a web interface, and I'm certain that others would agree too, unless I stand corrected...
March 24, 201016 yr why so anti web? its how most enterprise level stuff is monitorered, web and email means one less thing to install, and it can be monitored from differnet locations without installing extra software. i suppose someone could write a java app that leeches off the http and puts it in a prettier window for ya
March 24, 201016 yr Author - I'm not anit-web interfaced, I can live with webgui, gui, cli, its all good I was just putting it as an idea to the people. I honestly think the webgui is fine, but it would be one less thing to log into to monitor. Again, no biggie if it doesn't ever gets its feet off the ground, but I would like to see it happen and I would definitely use it. People would argue too that FEMUR in its own right is in the same category and like you mentioned, why use FEMUR when you can just open the webgui, but again, FEMUR is a convenience, as you don't have to log into the webgui to get the info you want to know quickly.
March 26, 201016 yr I see the appeal of this, even if it does just parrot the functionality of the web interface. As unraided said, it would be more 'noob friendly' as the concept of web apps is fairly new - some people don't trust something that isn't installed on their computer. I would also like the idea of a monitoring app that would pop up a notification on both my Windows computer and my HTPC if something is wrong with my server (especially a red ball). The email notification system already devised is fine, but I sometimes go days without checking my email. That, and email really has nothing to do with standard unRAID use. The notifications should tie in with devices normally associated with unRAID, such as HTPCs. Even still, this all takes a fairly low priority for me. An overhaul of the web interface (to make it prettier and more 'noob friendly', eschewing confusing language like 'restore') is definitely more important in my mind, and may even render this request redundant.
March 27, 201016 yr Author Agreed, we have seen the confusion of what the 'Restore' option can/has done to the new comers or of unraid. I myself might of made the same mistake if I haven't been reading this forum as often as I do. Again, I wouldn't loose sleep if this thing never gets developed, nor would I stop using unraid either. Even if we cam get just the monitoring side of things available (pending it is developed), it would be a great client/monitoring application. I'm sure a lot of unraid users would use it and would be grateful to have it.
August 3, 201015 yr I would also like to see this type of application. A little tray icon that can be; Grey: unraid not started Green: unraid started and parity ok Orange: unraide started and parity check in progress Red: unraid started but parity not ok You might also have a blinking light if your copying to/from the server Then you could also have simple options (via right click perhaps) that is; Start Unraid Server Stop unraid server Reboot unraid server Shutdown unraid server You may even have some customisation built into it so you can instantly map in an unraid share (ie "Movies") to a windows drive (ie "M:\") I would prefer this over web gui so its always visible in the system tray and i can immediately access anything i wanted to, and would save me having little cmd line scripts as well. Ost
August 3, 201015 yr The simplest design would be to have an app that was a web page scraper or telnet scraper that could connect with the unRAID box on a schedule and show results when needed.
August 3, 201015 yr I wrote the monitoring package -- FEMUR. No need to "scrape" web pages... you can query the entire mdcmd table of data via html now. As soo n a more important framework projects are done for 5.0, I'll update FEMUR.
August 3, 201015 yr I wrote the monitoring package -- FEMUR. No need to "scrape" web pages... you can query the entire mdcmd table of data via html now. As soo n a more important framework projects are done for 5.0, I'll update FEMUR. I would love to see a Google Chrome version of FEMUR also!!
August 3, 201015 yr I would love to see a Google Chrome version of FEMUR also!! No. It was worth a shot.
August 4, 201015 yr Author Has their been any updates/advancements on the FEMUR addon for Firefox? Last I looked at it, it was at version 0.05.
August 13, 201015 yr I would second the idea for an official Windows app to monitor the Unraid status. I don't even want to be able to control it - I'll go to the web gui for that. Femur is a good start, but needs more development.
August 13, 201015 yr I'd like a windows version as well. However I'm sure others would ask for the very same thing. Linux, Mac and whatever else I'm forgeting. I guess if you made it Java based then changing O's I guess would be easier.
August 13, 201015 yr Might be easier to make it be web-based and then all you need is a wrapper to load an embedded browser window on all the various platforms. This should be easy to then extend it to Window's Gadgets, Yahoo's/Konfabulator Widgets, or Mac Widgets/Gadgets.
August 13, 201015 yr I might be missing something here, but why a stand alone app when everything can be done via the browser? I think with a proper front end GUI that is web based, you can rival a stand alone app (Especially since you wont be doing any cpu intensive work). Just take a look at the configuration panel for linksys hardware. They get everything done and it is extremely efficient, not to mention cross OS compatible. Effort needs to go into the web gui development, not fork to a standalone app IMO.
August 13, 201015 yr Might be easier to make it be web-based and then all you need is a wrapper to load an embedded browser window on all the various platforms. This should be easy to then extend it to Window's Gadgets, Yahoo's/Konfabulator Widgets, or Mac Widgets/Gadgets. How about web services written in mono?
August 15, 201015 yr I might be missing something here, but why a stand alone app when everything can be done via the browser? I do not desire anything for configuration. I just want something to alert me proactively that something is wrong. (Something like the email alert, but that solution seems so round-about.) I just want something in my WinXP system tray that shows a green/yellow/red status. Currently, if one does not proactively check the status, one does not know if anything is wrong.
August 16, 201015 yr I might be missing something here, but why a stand alone app when everything can be done via the browser? I do not desire anything for configuration. I just want something to alert me proactively that something is wrong. (Something like the email alert, but that solution seems so round-about.) I just want something in my WinXP system tray that shows a green/yellow/red status. Currently, if one does not proactively check the status, one does not know if anything is wrong. I'm completely agree. Nothing more than an icon next to my clock sorta like anti-virus. If the ball is green then no worries. If the ball changes color and blinks the server needs some attention. Run Parity check, drive down, drive is near compacity, drive is hot. Of course it doesn't have to have all of those alerts, but a simple red/green would be somewhat nice. Click on the ball and it could simply fire up your browser not a full blown application to replace the browser.
August 16, 201015 yr Yeah kinda like the first image you posted. Brief and to the point without taxing the server or the client to death with a ton of detail or constant access to gather. Basically quick overall unRAID health info.
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