October 9, 201015 yr I recently bought this for my digital camera, then realize I probably won't need it since I bought an Eye-Fi. Could I use the MicroSD card through the USB adapter as my primary unRAID boot drive? Will unRAID be able to tell that it isn't a standard USB Flash Drive? If there is too much hassle involved in making this work, then I'll just drop another $10 on a standard USB Flash Drive. By the way, if this works it will be used to test out my new 20 drive Norco 4220-based build with unRAID basic. If that all goes well, then I'll transfer my unRAID pro flash drive from my current server to this new one. I got two of those microSD but they actually have the same serial numbers 090C-6200-5678-901234567890 and Tom saw that the GUID looked strange and questioned them - with good reason. Don't think the Kingston model will work and probably not the others as well but don't know. I am going back to my original plan and using my Lextor flash drives. Anybody want the two Kingston's I bought? What Kingstons did you buy? And have you bothered to check them at all? Yes I installed them both in my server. They both have the same ID above. Also I bought TWO of the same model in Rajahal post basically this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134990 Oh yeah, those. I'm using a Kingston but it's totally different. Those you got are low budget for sure.
October 9, 201015 yr I recently bought this for my digital camera, then realize I probably won't need it since I bought an Eye-Fi. Could I use the MicroSD card through the USB adapter as my primary unRAID boot drive? Will unRAID be able to tell that it isn't a standard USB Flash Drive? If there is too much hassle involved in making this work, then I'll just drop another $10 on a standard USB Flash Drive. By the way, if this works it will be used to test out my new 20 drive Norco 4220-based build with unRAID basic. If that all goes well, then I'll transfer my unRAID pro flash drive from my current server to this new one. I got two of those microSD but they actually have the same serial numbers 090C-6200-5678-901234567890 and Tom saw that the GUID looked strange and questioned them - with good reason. Don't think the Kingston model will work and probably not the others as well but don't know. I am going back to my original plan and using my Lextor flash drives. Anybody want the two Kingston's I bought? What Kingstons did you buy? And have you bothered to check them at all? Yes I installed them both in my server. They both have the same ID above. Also I bought TWO of the same model in Rajahal post basically this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134990 Oh yeah, those. I'm using a Kingston but it's totally different. Those you got are low budget for sure. Figures!
October 9, 201015 yr I recently bought this for my digital camera, then realize I probably won't need it since I bought an Eye-Fi. Could I use the MicroSD card through the USB adapter as my primary unRAID boot drive? Will unRAID be able to tell that it isn't a standard USB Flash Drive? If there is too much hassle involved in making this work, then I'll just drop another $10 on a standard USB Flash Drive. By the way, if this works it will be used to test out my new 20 drive Norco 4220-based build with unRAID basic. If that all goes well, then I'll transfer my unRAID pro flash drive from my current server to this new one. I got two of those microSD but they actually have the same serial numbers 090C-6200-5678-901234567890 and Tom saw that the GUID looked strange and questioned them - with good reason. Don't think the Kingston model will work and probably not the others as well but don't know. I am going back to my original plan and using my Lextor flash drives. Anybody want the two Kingston's I bought? What Kingstons did you buy? And have you bothered to check them at all? Yes I installed them both in my server. They both have the same ID above. Also I bought TWO of the same model in Rajahal post basically this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134990 Oh yeah, those. I'm using a Kingston but it's totally different. Those you got are low budget for sure. Figures! Give them away for the holidays as stocking stuffers.
October 9, 201015 yr Give them away for the holidays as stocking stuffers. Good thought. They are small so I might still use them anyway. Definitely can be used with the free version.
October 10, 201015 yr Author I got two of those microSD but they actually have the same serial numbers 090C-6200-5678-901234567890 and Tom saw that the GUID looked strange and questioned them - with good reason. Don't think the Kingston model will work and probably not the others as well but don't know. I am going back to my original plan and using my Lextor flash drives. Anybody want the two Kingston's I bought? Lo and behold, my Kingston microSD adapter has the exact same GUID: And our units were purchased many months apart. That means that it is likely that every single one of these units has this same GUID. We can therefore discount them as ever truly working for unRAID (or at least for any paid version of unRAID). As for what to do with them, well, I'm keeping mine around to use for my various test machines and prototype builds. I'm currently using it to try out the 5.0 Beta as well (as pictured above). I'll just never attempt to register it. You could also use it to keep a clone copy of your registered unRAID flash drive in case you ever need to recover it. You wouldn't be able to boot from the clone, but at least you would save your settings, add-ons, etc. if your main flash drive were to ever die.
October 10, 201015 yr I think it would help if people refer to their devices by the device name and not just the manufacturer which probably makes dozens of different devices. That will help people avoid the ones that aren't useful.
October 12, 201015 yr Author Good point, though the official name for my unit isn't very descriptive: Kingston 4GB Micro SDHC Flash Card with microSD/SDHC USB Reader Model MRG2+SDC4/4GB I guess we could go by the model number, although many sites don't even publish that info.
October 14, 201015 yr This thread peaked my interest so I dug out a microSD reader that I got free as part of a combo deal on Newegg over a year ago to give this a try. My model is: Kingston 4GB Micro SDHC Flash Card w/ USB Reader Model FCR-MRB+SDC4/4GB I have the basic version running on it right now (which it sounds like is all they are really good for). The only difference I've noticed is that it takes a lot more time to load the unRAID image file so my boot times are about 2-3x longer as compared to my Sandisk Cruzer USB thumbdrive.
October 15, 201015 yr I ordered 2 more Kingston Mobile Lite G2 from here. The attached picture shows the device id's for all 3. One I am running my basic unRAID off of and the other two inserted but in this picture there aren't any flash chips in them at the moment. So here are 3 of the same model with each having distinct identifiers. usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000062713-0:0@ usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000062713-0:0-part1@ usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000113220-0:0@ usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000114147-0:0@ I'd like to ask that someone else purchase a few of these and verify each has a unique serial number and post that here in this thread. Any volunteers? Here are some other references in this thread. http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=6185.msg78266#msg78266 http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=6185.msg78278#msg78278
October 15, 201015 yr INFO What does it say on the unRAID web interface for the GUID? Is it the same as the one you posted? The only other thing to check is that the ID's for each drive STAY THE SAME after a reboot and after the USB port they are plugged into is changed. If you could test that they stay stay the same after a reboot, and then test with the readers in a different USB port that would be great. I would really like to use a reader for my next license, but have not had the time to check around and buy all different sorts of readers.
October 15, 201015 yr Does it report a GUID on the 'devices' page? If so, what is it? It does however my server is currently down due to a failed MB. My new MB is due to be delivered today. I'll post it later today once I get back up and running. I also have a second USB reader that is identical to the one I'm currently using now. I'll check that one as well to see if the GUIDs are the same. Question - I'll be looking to buy a pro version of unRAID in a few weeks so do any of you guys know if Tom will accept the GUID from a SD card reader. Based on the following comment I assumed that Tom might not accept a GUID from a flash card reader. I got two of those microSD but they actually have the same serial numbers 090C-6200-5678-901234567890 and Tom saw that the GUID looked strange and questioned them - with good reason. Don't think the Kingston model will work and probably not the others as well but don't know. I am going back to my original plan and using my Lextor flash drives. Anybody want the two Kingston's I bought? I guess he's concerned that two different readers could have the same GUID which would allow someone to use a single license on more than one server. This seems to vary by product with some being the same and others unique. However because of the uncertainty I just assumed that Tom would not grant a license to me using a microSD card reader GUID. Any thoughts?
October 15, 201015 yr Author That's why I asked you to post your GUID here. If it looks fishy, we'll let you know. Even if it looks fine to us Tom may reject it (he has a LOT more experience in recognizing odd GUIDs). As long as your devices have unique and valid GUIDs then it should be fine to register them with unRAID.
October 15, 201015 yr However because of the uncertainty I just assumed that Tom would not grant a license to me using a microSD card reader GUID. Any thoughts? Your serial numbers looked odd because they ended with 5678-901234567890 The numbers are all in sequence.
October 15, 201015 yr However because of the uncertainty I just assumed that Tom would not grant a license to me using a microSD card reader GUID. Any thoughts? Your serial numbers looked odd because they ended with 5678-901234567890 The numbers are all in sequence. Those weren't my serial numbers but now I see what you are talking about. I'll take a look at mine once I get a chance. I did look at it once before and I don't remember it follwing any patterns. IIRC they looked very similar to the ones queeg posted earlier (probably because mine are Kingston devices as well). usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000062713-0:0@ usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000113220-0:0@ usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000114147-0:0@
October 15, 201015 yr INFO What does it say on the unRAID web interface for the GUID? Is it the same as the one you posted? The only other thing to check is that the ID's for each drive STAY THE SAME after a reboot and after the USB port they are plugged into is changed. If you could test that they stay stay the same after a reboot, and then test with the readers in a different USB port that would be great. I would really like to use a reader for my next license, but have not had the time to check around and buy all different sorts of readers. I've done all those tests with a single MobileLite G2 device. Now I have 3 of them I can do tests on all at once. This is a bit of an exhaustive test but I'll do it to help establish these devices as safe to use with unRAID keys. The test: One of them will be my unRAID system. The other two will have FAT32 filesystems with a unique file on them. I'll plug in all of them and check the unMENU page. Then I'll reboot 3 times having rotated all the devices until all 3 have been in 3 different USB ports. I'll record the device id showing it's serial number and the name of the file on it. I'd like to hit all possible issues in this test so if you think the test should include other actions let me know now before I run the excercise.
October 15, 201015 yr Author How about swapping out the microSD cards as well? Past tests have shown that it shouldn't change the GUID, but it still might be worth doing again.
October 15, 201015 yr How about swapping out the microSD cards as well? Past tests have shown that it shouldn't change the GUID, but it still might be worth doing again. I have done that test earlier in this thread. This time the chips must not be switched because I'm confirming that the serial number is always the same for each of the devices as they are moved to new usb ports. That requires contents of the chip be checked after each reboot.
October 16, 201015 yr Any volunteers? I will as soon as their site allows orders again. I still like the idea of a replaceable SD drive to test out different configurations easier.
November 5, 201015 yr INFO What does it say on the unRAID web interface for the GUID? Is it the same as the one you posted? The only other thing to check is that the ID's for each drive STAY THE SAME after a reboot and after the USB port they are plugged into is changed. If you could test that they stay stay the same after a reboot, and then test with the readers in a different USB port that would be great. I would really like to use a reader for my next license, but have not had the time to check around and buy all different sorts of readers. I've done all those tests with a single MobileLite G2 device. Now I have 3 of them I can do tests on all at once. This is a bit of an exhaustive test but I'll do it to help establish these devices as safe to use with unRAID keys. The test: One of them will be my unRAID system. The other two will have FAT32 filesystems with a unique file on them. I'll plug in all of them and check the unMENU page. Then I'll reboot 3 times having rotated all the devices until all 3 have been in 3 different USB ports. I'll record the device id showing it's serial number and the name of the file on it. I'd like to hit all possible issues in this test so if you think the test should include other actions let me know now before I run the excercise. My tests show the devices retain their individual serial numbers after rebooting. I also took my main one and did a final test. Reader number ATTRS{serial}=="AA00000000062713" Booted with 8GB chip in rear port. Booted with 4GB chip in rear port. Booted with 4GB chip in front port. Each time booted I output the udevinfo into a file. Those files are attached. All these tests show pretty conclusively that the Kingston MobileLite G2 readers have individual serial numbers and that unRAID shows that to be so. 8GBFlash_front_port.txt 4GBFlash_rear_port.txt 4GBFlash_front_port.txt
November 5, 201015 yr Author That's great news. Maybe we should add them to the list of recommended flash drives on the wiki?
November 5, 201015 yr That's great news. Maybe we should add them to the list of recommended flash drives on the wiki? I still want someone, anyone to confirm this by ordering one or more and doing a couple simple tests like plugging them all in at once and checking the serial numbers.
November 5, 201015 yr I've got one. First time I tried it wouldn't boot on the computer I used. And since then I just haven't had time for further testing. Doubt I'll get time this weekend either. Maybe next.
November 5, 201015 yr I've got one. First time I tried it wouldn't boot on the computer I used. And since then I just haven't had time for further testing. Doubt I'll get time this weekend either. Maybe next. The Kingston MobileLite G2 has two slots. One that fits a microSD and one that fits the larger SD (or microSD adapter). The larger slot is the first slot and you need to put unRAID chip in that slot to get it to boot. If you just want to check it's serial number then insert it into a usb port, telnet to unRAID (or at console) type ls /dev/disk/by-id The you will get a list of devices and one will look like this. Yours will have a different serial number than this. Post this device entry. usb-Kingston_Reader_SD_MS_AA00000000062713-0:0@
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