comet424 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) last few days unraid been acting weird on 2 of my servers different things on each one but this one really messed if i type \\tower i only get 1 File folder to show up in windows and it takes time for it to load too (green bar goes across the screen in file explorer slowly) if i type \\192.168.0.3 i see all my folders instantly (roughly 20 folders) have you guys run into an issue like this or know how to fix it or where else to look Edited July 11, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 What are the actual names that you have assigned to your two servers? Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) Tower and mitchflix i have other unraid servers but they seem to be working not issues Tower 192.168.0.3 (\\tower shows up 1 Share Folder) (\\192.168.0.3 shows all the folders no issues) mitchflix 192.168.0.8 (this one is having issues of unraid rebooting on its own and it doesnt have parity just randomly reboots at times and no errors just started in teh past week i noticed ) both unraid servers i also noticed randomy Dockers shut themselves off too Edited July 11, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 May we assume that none of the other servers you have are named 'Tower'. (In fact, I would suggest that you have a look at your router and see what the static and lease names. Check to see that their IP addresses are shown are what you think they are.) 3 hours ago, comet424 said: both unraid servers i also noticed randomy Dockers shut themselves off too Are you saying that this server has another problem? (Let's not get two servers with different problems in the same thread.) I would suggest that you post up the Diagnostics file. Tools >>> Diagnostics PS--- May I ask a favor? That you use punctuation and capital letters at the beginning of sentences. I makes it so much easier for us to read your phrases. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) i already commented in the other unraid form for the other server for Random Unraid reboots... as other people are experiencing Unraid randomy rebooting on them.., but you were the one asking about the names of the 2 servers that there acting up.. this topic is just for the 1 server.. and the other server i mentioned about hopefully someone has answers in the other form...... as for puncuation etc.. good luck i have dislexia, and other disorders, id have someone proof read before sending it. But ill try my best. as for server names.. they fine.. Backupserver,mikeflix,mitchflix, and tower... and the issue of the Tower only happened in last couple days.. its been running not bad for the past 2 yrs.. the Tower,Backupserver,Mitchflix, and Mikeflix Unraids all have static IPs. Tower (192.168.0.3) when doing "\\tower" it only shows 1 of the Share Roots. and only shows 1 file folder inside that Root share when i do "\\192.168.0.3" For Tower, it shows all my Share roots and my other folders in the 1 its only displaying when i do \\tower and here is diagnostic file.. it took alot longer to make it for some reason.. and if you see any other errors in there let me know so i can fix them too.. that i havent noticed Hopefully that Helps you.. also there are no common errors either from running Common fix tower-diagnostics-20200711-1715.zip Edited July 11, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I did not see anything obvious. However, in the libvert.txt log file, there are some errors with the Windows Server 2016 (Web Server) VM that probably need to be addressed at some point. You do have 57 shares and that is a lot of shares. There appear to be some shares that are copies of other shares. Example below: It does bring to mind one thought. Try spinning up all of the array drives before you try accessing the server with Windows Explorer. (You can do this Main >>> Array Operation and you will see the 'Spin up' and 'Spin down' buttons.) (Another thought, the client PC is Windows 10? If not, what is the client running?) Try to see if accessing the server using the \\IP address first has a different behavior than \\Tower. I see that you are using the Cache Directories plugin. You do have to be a bit careful with this plugin. If you try to cache too many files, it can have some strange behavior. (I do use Cache Directories but I only attempt to cache information on about 1100 files.) I would also like to suggest that you turn it off and see if that affects the behavior. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 what does the log file say the errors are ? i think that is one of the vms that doesnt work anymore i had issues with my webserver so i have done a few reinstall vms.. maybe that is one of them.. i counted the shares.. it shows only 39 and a few of them i have are just temporay i copied files off bad array disk so i be dropping some.. how do you see those shares.. when i goto "Shares" i only counted 39, and some of those are temporary for now.. ok i can try the spin up.. and yes im using Windows 10 as the client well like i mentioned if i do \\192.168.0.3 (tower) it populates instantly... but if i do \\tower it takes time sometimes doesnt work i have to do it a second time but then all it does it shows one of my Shares from the 39.. but doing \\192.168.0.3 populates them instantly ya i using the cache directories plugin i honestly dont know if its working really as it seems fast for the first or 2nd subfolders but then slow as molasses after.. i not sure how many files its caching i just installed it and left it as the default i was hoping since i have 32gb of ram it would load the whole thing into ram,, but ill try turning it off.. i know i use a program called Virtual DJ as i dj play music off the array and i find it locks up and even accessing the files is an issue.. so i moved the files in Tower under 1 drive under an ussasigned drive... but still find issues .. and i noticed the system log i got a sdd the unassigned drive error.. but there is no smart errors i checked drive so not sure what that is Jul 11 17:13:50 Tower kernel: print_req_error: I/O error, dev sdd, sector 98099912 what is that error.. and how do i find duplicate shares as "Common Fixes" didnt find no issues but ill try turning off the cache directories and see Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 so i disabled cache drive and spun up disks \\192.168.0.3 was almost instant \\tower was pretty instant but you see in the pics its not displaying properly tower and 192.168.0.3 are the same server Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, comet424 said: i counted the shares.. it shows only 39 and a few of them i have are just temporay i copied files off bad array disk so i be dropping some.. how do you see those shares.. when i goto "Shares" i only counted 39, and some of those are temporary for now.. Look in the Diagnostics file that you uploaded. You will find folders in it. Drill down and you will find the Shares folder. 9 minutes ago, comet424 said: what does the log file say the errors are ? i think that is one of the vms that doesnt work anymore Look in the logs folder of the Diagnostics file. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 i deleted the one vm in the lib file now i had to redownload the diagnostic file without the anyomous option.. i looked at the shares.. but there are a bunch that dont exisit.. i tried Bin-Krusader and checked each Disk... those first few shares dont exist in there where else would these shares be? so thats messed it up.. its finding shares that dont actually exisit anymore they were deleted long ago or should have been Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) can i not delete those cfg files and let unraid fix itself again? like refresh the shares? oh and i re tried \\192.168.0.3 it was quick... . \\tower was slow and still only displays the 1 share Edited July 12, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) i found the cfgs on the flash drive.. can i just delete the folder? and will unraid re add to flash drive .. update.. i ended up shutting down unraid pulled the usb and renamed teh shares folder.. now i re installed it booted up.. ya got some errors for the cache settings etc fixing thos i still cant do \\tower only 1 share shows up i cant even get tower/ (in the browser to work) which is weird but 192.168.0.3/ works but ya cant get damn shares to work doing \\tower but i can do the other server names like mitchflix/ backupserver/ in the browser just not tower/ here's a new diagnostic file if you see anything else tower-diagnostics-20200711-2125.zip Edited July 12, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 here is my network settings if the diagnostics dont show anything Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, comet424 said: i found the cfgs on the flash drive.. can i just delete the folder? and will unraid re add to flash drive .. You should be able to find a list of the 'shares' using the GUI under the Share tab. A 'user share' is actually is actually the name of any folder/directory that is in the root of any array data drive or cache drive. Yes, you can create a share using the GUI but that action will actually just create the directory. (You can also create a share with Windows Explorer if you have enable the Disk Shares by accessing a disk through that path. ) Have you installed the Dynamix Local Master plugin. If so, what is the name of the computer that is the Local Master. Settings >>> SMB >>> Workgroup Settings It is best if the Local Master is a Unraid server that is on 24-7. The \\tower is resolved by the Local Master to be \\IP_address. In other words, the Local Master is the DNS server for the SMB network. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 ya like i mentioned "shares" showed only 39 shares the Bin-Krusader had 39 shares... but the FLASH /config/shares had 57 shares shares of shares that no longer existed.. it didnt delete the ones that dont exisit anymore.. so i had to manually erased them so what i ment was is it ok to Erased FLASH\config\Shares so what i did was shut down unraid took out the usb and renamed config\shares\ to !oldshares and then shoved the USB back into unraid and booted it back up.. as i couldnt deleted it in krusader.. when i renamed flash config\shares in krusader and then did a reboot so it force it to redue the shares it resaved all 57 shares thats include the ones that dont exisit.. so the shares are now 33 guess unraid had a glitch and doesnt know to delete the shares(cfg) from the Flash drive when they no longer exisit on the array or so... as for the local master plugin no never heard of it but ill try it now.. so why would unraid suddenly stop working like it.. shouldnt the other 3 unraids have the same problme ... but ill try it now and get back to you Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) so i installed it and went to bottom of smb page its say my backupserver is the master but how is that possible this is confusing and the server is Tower... but you mentioned the local master is its own dns server... well i use PFsense as a DNS server does that mean its not working right for unraid.. or does unraid have an issue? as my dns is 192.168.0.1 Edited July 12, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) so i stopped and started the array doesnt work still cant do in browser tower/ and if i do \\tower in the file explorer i only see the 1 folder so the local master didnt fix that problem 😞 still does the what i showed above picture 1 folder for \\tower everything for \\192.168.0.3 and 192.168.0.3 in browser works tower/ fails in the browser but backupserver/ mitchflix/ work fine the 4th one is under a different subnet but works by IP soo local master didnt solve it 😞 so what does it actually do in unraid oh and "tower" is 24/7 days a week i usually reboot unraid maybe ever 3-4 weeks unless i have to.. so its always on and the dns server is 192.168.0.1 Edited July 12, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, comet424 said: so i installed it and went to bottom of smb page its say my backupserver is the master but how is that possible this is confusing and the server is Tower... but you mentioned the local master is its own dns server... well i use PFsense as a DNS server does that mean its not working right for unraid.. or does unraid have an issue? as my dns is 192.168.0.1 see here for what I said: 8 hours ago, Frank1940 said: In other words, the Local Master is the DNS server for the SMB network. PFsense is/maybe(?) the DNS server for the WAN. That is, the Internet. The Local Master does the same thing for the SMB (Samba) network which is only on your LAN. They are actually two different things! See here for an MS explanation: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/it-pro/windows-server-2003/cc737661(v=ws.10) And one that I put together: https://forums.unraid.net/topic/34889-dynamix-v6-plugins/page/44/?tab=comments#comment-462656 Below is a complete thread on SMB problems that was started back in 2016: https://forums.unraid.net/topic/89452-windows-issues-with-unraid/ You should read the first couple of pages to get a favor of things. What I have found with SMB over the years is if you find a workaround to an SMB problem-- use it! I just downloaded and checked your Network configuration for this server. You have set a static IP address for this server. Just use the IP address in Windows Explorer rather than the server name. If you can't remember the IP Address, setup a shortcut to this server on your desktop. You can do this by entering the \\IP Address on the Address bar. Hit enter and you will see something like this: Put your cursor over the IP address (circled), left-click, drag it to the desktop and create a shortcut there by releasing the mouse button. You can rename the shortcut to anything you want. By the way, I have used workarounds in the past. In fact a still have one on my desktop that will get to any of SMB computers on my Network. (It is a folder with shortcuts in it that were made the same way as I described above.) I used it when MS did one of their security updates that broke Network Discovery for a while. I just never removed it because I figure MS will do it again some day... Edited July 12, 2020 by Frank1940 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) ah ok ill check the links.. also i know about the ip address.. remember i sent pics if you type \\192.168.0.3 shows all the shares if i do \\tower it only shows 1 share and partially so my question is.. whats wrong with this unraid.. why did this break this week only and the other 3 are running fine ya i use DNS server for my VPN and WAN connections through pfsense... so i stll curious did this unraid(tower) break somewhere internally so why does tower say my backupserver is the DNS server for Samba.. shouldnt each Server say the servers name.. like Tower should be tower not backupserver... as i usually leave all 4 servers running on my browser always so they all up.. just Tower has failed and ya i mentioned i have a static IP i also sent you a pic of my static IP of the above messages so ill check it out.. so does this mean my other 3 servers are going to fail next week since Tower failed last week for samba naming.. i still dont understand how it can break.. did a Docker mess it up.. and the only docker i recently installed was RocketChat and monogodb thanks help so far ill read those articles Edited July 12, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 oh and my Backup server i left it running older version of unraid 6.8.2 no issues with SMB shares its running 157 days no reboot i limit the number dockers installed on it as it just backups i have 3 dockers on it.. and bunch of plugins.. i was thinking maybe 1 of these dockers i have on Tower mess's up SMB shares and web browser gui that was my idea anyways.. as i reading some of the articles now it was something i was thinking might have broken things??? Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, comet424 said: thanks help so far ill read those articles +1 A lot of your questions will be answered if you read them! Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 i did read skim them none of them answered my questions none of them answered why do "Desktop Shares" thats on the array works when the array is stopped \\tower shows "Desktop Shares" and files in it \\192.168.0.3 shows no shares i tried looking on cache and Flash drive... why is my array files showing up on share when Array is stopped i didnt see that in any of sub headings either ... i re skim peoples things and keep trying things Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I often hesitate to advise folks to download from the Internet but there is a tool which will tell you what your Windows 10 computer is seeing on the SMB network. It is called LAN Scanner Tool v2.02 and can be downloaded from this site: https://scottiestech.info/downloads/ I have no answer for why you see any shares listed when the array is stopped unless \\tower is looking at some other computer. That is why I suggested looking at what is attached to the SMB network. Quote Link to comment
comet424 Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) not sure how to look at whats attached to the SMB network.. array is stopped.. and ran the scanner LANscanner v2.02 - ScottiesTech.Info Scanning LAN... -- 192.168.56.1 A8-5E-45-A1-5E-47 -- 192.168.0.213 c4-1c-ff-d9-7c-c2 -- 192.168.0.212 c4-1c-ff-b2-b7-ed -- 192.168.0.11 52-54-00-b5-fe-40 BACKUPSERVER 192.168.0.4 00-1a-64-c5-f3-f4 WORKGROUP MASTER DESKTOP-QTO0GRU 192.168.0.47 WORKGROUP MASTER MITCHFLIX 192.168.0.8 30-9c-23-de-95-38 WORKGROUP MASTER TOWER 192.168.0.3 a8-5e-45-a1-5c-cb WORKGROUP also trying to add the code to the Tower SMB Extra to make it a master doesnt work it saves but when you reboot array it deletes the 3 lines of code i added and not sure what 192.168.56.1 is and those not all the ips of my network anyways nore my 192.168.0.1 pfsense router Edited July 12, 2020 by comet424 Quote Link to comment
Frank1940 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 You should have only ONE Local Master on any Unraid server based SMB network! (You can have more than one Local Master on a MS SMB network if you are running the MS Server software. You can read about that in one of the links.) What is the 'DESKTOP-QTO0GRU' computer? Why does it not have a MAC address? Quote Link to comment
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