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OK, I felt a bit better today so I got myself down to the basement and try starting up the chassis with all original parts and config.

NO GO!

 

the machine  starts up, go through POST

I can see the BIOS messages, CPU, RAM

all the the Press this to do that calls

init for PCMI card

init for SAS cards and than all shuts down.

 

I have been at it for a good 2 hours.

some times the system starts with a long continues BEEP until it's shuts off

and sometime  no sounds at all.

 

if any one see something like it and know how to fix it help me please...

 

if not I will try to PM some one at TAMs to see if they have a board for sale.  I am invested too much in to this setup to just drop it.  I got 2 new CPUs  16Gb RAM

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  Ok, long post, but hopefully will help.  Trying to make it a decent step by step... this should help to determine where a problem is...  Likely you have done at least some of this, but since I do not know what for sure, here it goes...

 

  1st... Do you have BOTH power supplies connected and operating?  If not, set them both up for operation, if there is a problem with one power supply that may be causing your issues...  If running only one, you could also try using the other one, but I would use both for the following tests.

 

  2nd... Are you using IPMI, or a local console (direct connected monitor and keyboard)?  Use the monitor and keyboard on the machine for these tests...

 

  I would try the following, AFTER removing power to the power supplies and draining them by pressing the power button:

 

  1.  Remove the small IPMI board.

 

  2.  Remove the SATA interfaces.

 

  3.  Try booting again with the cards removed.

 

  This will speed up the boot process, and also allow you to see if it will be stable or not at this point.  Being quicker to boot, will also make it easier and faster to try things from there...

 

  When I first powered mine up, I had a hard time getting to the BIOS setup screen.  After I removed the IPMI board it was much easier to get things working, then I put the IPMI card back in.

 

  This is the oder of steps I would take in checking to make sure all is good, and that new components are also good:

 

  1.  You may also need to put revert back to the original CPU and memory, to get to a point to set the BIOS to default.

 

  2.  If reverted to OLD CPU and RAM, and you get it running then add JUST half of the new RAM with the old CPU, and make sure it will still works.

 

  3.  Then trying again with the 2nd half of the new RAM installed on the old CPU.

 

  4.  If there are problems, remove all RAM and try again with old RAM, just to make sure it still works...  Then try ONE stick of new RAM at a time.  You may also want to run a memory test at this point on each stick...

 

  5.  After identifying all new RAM status, as GOOD or BAD...  and getting a good stable test, time to try each new CPU...

 

  6.  It may be good to again set BIOS to defaults BEFORE swapping the CPU, AND again AFTER...  Just to be sure...

 

  Somewhere along the way, you should be able to find a problem, if not, it may have been a problem with the BIOS setting up variables and/or tables for the system resources, with the CPU swap.  If so, at this point adding the cards back in, first SATA cards... power up test... then add back in IPMI card... all should work...

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  Ok, long post, but hopefully will help.  Trying to make it a decent step by step... this should help to determine where a problem is...  Likely you have done at least some of this, but since I do not know what for sure, here it goes...

 

  1st... Do you have BOTH power supplies connected and operating?  If not, set them both up for operation, if there is a problem with one power supply that may be causing your issues...  If running only one, you could also try using the other one, but I would use both for the following tests.

 

  2nd... Are you using IPMI, or a local console (direct connected monitor and keyboard)?  Use the monitor and keyboard on the machine for these tests...

 

  I would try the following, AFTER removing power to the power supplies and draining them by pressing the power button:

 

  1.  Remove the small IPMI board.

 

  2.  Remove the SATA interfaces.

 

  3.  Try booting again with the cards removed.

 

  This will speed up the boot process, and also allow you to see if it will be stable or not at this point.  Being quicker to boot, will also make it easier and faster to try things from there...

 

  When I first powered mine up, I had a hard time getting to the BIOS setup screen.  After I removed the IPMI board it was much easier to get things working, then I put the IPMI card back in.

 

  This is the oder of steps I would take in checking to make sure all is good, and that new components are also good:

 

  1.  You may also need to put revert back to the original CPU and memory, to get to a point to set the BIOS to default.

 

  2.  If reverted to OLD CPU and RAM, and you get it running then add JUST half of the new RAM with the old CPU, and make sure it will still works.

 

  3.  Then trying again with the 2nd half of the new RAM installed on the old CPU.

 

  4.  If there are problems, remove all RAM and try again with old RAM, just to make sure it still works...  Then try ONE stick of new RAM at a time.  You may also want to run a memory test at this point on each stick...

 

  5.  After identifying all new RAM status, as GOOD or BAD...  and getting a good stable test, time to try each new CPU...

 

  6.  It may be good to again set BIOS to defaults BEFORE swapping the CPU, AND again AFTER...  Just to be sure...

 

  Somewhere along the way, you should be able to find a problem, if not, it may have been a problem with the BIOS setting up variables and/or tables for the system resources, with the CPU swap.  If so, at this point adding the cards back in, first SATA cards... power up test... then add back in IPMI card... all should work...

 

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Small steps, you're changing a lot from it's original config, and these things are picky.  Sometimes it's just a loose card, sometimes the memory doesn't work well with them.  I'm all for removing the IPMI card as it "takes control" of the system in a way that is great for remote management but sometimes causes issues with the system.  Get it all working first with a local keyboard/monitor then install it and then get it working for remote mgmt.  I now have three of these systems, all have been modified with more ram and 6 cores and all are working fine but that doesn't mean I didn't have issues and had to remove and reinsert things one at a time to find the issues.  Once you get them sorted out these things are solid.

 

Keep us posted.

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Well I figured out what the error is, it seams to be an overheat alarm.  But I still can't get it to boot.  I got all cards out. Put original cpu an ram in.  And it's not booting.  Could I have damage the soucet some how and do not see it?.  I went all over the board with a flashlight and no obvious damage anywhere.

 

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Well so far I can not get into a bios.  I have removed all cards. Install the original cpu and ram and still get the overheating error and shutdown.  I got into bios once and set all to safe config. Today. After that it's all downhill. ...

 

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Nothing yet. I am not mounting hs. On yet.  I figure that I should be able to run it for couple of minutes naked.  Just so I can see that it works. I have the new tube of arctic silver waiting though.

 

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A CPU CANNOT run without a heatsink on it and thermal paste.  Even a heatsink without thermal paste even for a few minutes is not recommended.  Running the CPUs without proper heasink/paste will damage them and they are saving themselves by shutting the system down.

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Zerok:you are right.  I droped a hs onto cpu and all is working so far.  I instal one new cpu with old ram first. (I test the new ram with old cpu before that)  all is good.  I drop the new hs onto that.  Than split the ram and droped in second cpu.  All work good.  However the new passive hs are not good enough and machine still overheats after 10 min of runtime.  I will need to get a good hs with fan on it

Thanks for your help.  Next step install xen.

 

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Make sure you don't use too much paste.  A rice sized drop in the middle is more than enough and will spread evenly once the heatsink is locked down.  Too much and you won't get the benefits of the paste and it will not transfer the heat from the cpu to the heatsink and won't cool properly. 

 

You can use any basic AM3/AM3+ heatsink on these motherboards, doesn't have to be socket F.  I used the stock heatsink/fans from my old AMD dual core and quad core cpus that I got in the retail boxes and they are fine and they came with paste already on them.

 

Also, did you get the 2419 6 core or the 2419 ee 6 core?  There is a difference, mainly in the TDP.  One is 115 watts and will run hotter and the other is 60 watts.  http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/473/AMD_Six-Core_Opteron_2419_vs_AMD_Six-Core_Opteron_2419_EE.html

 

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Any luck with this mobo / cpu combo ? I'm only able to get unraid to see 8 / 12 cores on this one

 

root@Tower:/mnt/user/cache_only# cat /proc/cpuinfo |egrep "proces"
processor       : 0
processor       : 1
processor       : 2
processor       : 3
processor       : 4
processor       : 5
processor       : 6
processor       : 7

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not running unraid but i have got this system to see all 12 cores with the most updated bios version

 

Machine:  Mobo: Supermicro model: H8DM8-2 v: 1234567890 Bios: American Megatrends v: 080014 date: 10/22/2009

CPU(s):    2 Hexa core Six-Core AMD Opteron 2431s (-HT-MCP-SMP-) cache: 6144 KB

          flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 57897

          Clock Speeds: 1: 2412 MHz 2: 2412 MHz 3: 2412 MHz 4: 2412 MHz 5: 2412 MHz 6: 2412 MHz 7: 2412 MHz

          8: 2412 MHz 9: 2412 MHz 10: 2412 MHz 11: 2412 MHz 12: 2412 MHz

Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] bus-ID: 04:07.0 chip-ID: 10de:0322

          Display Server: X.org 1.11.3 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: nouveau,vesa,fbdev)

          tty size: 237x66 Advanced Data: N/A out of X

Network:  Card-1: Intel 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)

          driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: c880 bus-ID: 03:04.1 chip-ID: 8086:1010

          IF: eth5 state: down mac: 00:02:a5:4e:82:15

          Card-2: Intel 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)

          driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: c800 bus-ID: 03:06.0 chip-ID: 8086:1010

          IF: eth2 state: down mac: 00:02:a5:4f:f2:5c

          Card-3: Intel 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)

          driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: c480 bus-ID: 03:06.1 chip-ID: 8086:1010

          IF: eth3 state: down mac: 00:02:a5:4f:f2:5d

          Card-4: NVIDIA MCP55 Ethernet driver: forcedeth port: 9400 bus-ID: 00:08.0 chip-ID: 10de:0373

          IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:30:48:c3:d1:cc

          Card-5: NVIDIA MCP55 Ethernet driver: forcedeth port: 9080 bus-ID: 00:09.0 chip-ID: 10de:0373

          IF: eth1 state: down mac: 00:30:48:c3:d1:cd

          Card-6: Intel 82546EB Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper)

          driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: cc00 bus-ID: 03:04.0 chip-ID: 8086:1010

          IF: eth4 state: down mac: 00:02:a5:4e:82:14

Drives:    HDD Total Size: 45058.8GB (48.4% used)

          ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD3200AAJB size: 320.1GB serial: WD-WCAV23692268 temp: 49C

          ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD3202ABYS size: 320.1GB serial: WD-WCAT1D243667 temp: 44C

          ID-3: /dev/sdc model: Wintec_SSD_v2 size: 118.9GB serial: 10000000000000000474 temp: 0C

          ID-4: /dev/sdd model: 9650SE size: 12000.0GB serial: scsi-3600050e08e2f880041a200006cf10000 temp: 0C

          ID-5: /dev/sde model: 9650SE size: 4000.0GB serial: scsi-3600050e05401a400456c00000ad50000 temp: 0C

          ID-6: /dev/sdf model: 9650SE size: 300.0GB serial: scsi-3600050e0519dab00935c0000355f0000 temp: 0C

          ID-7: /dev/sdg model: 9650SE size: 27999.8GB serial: scsi-3600050e05050f6009366000088690000 temp: 0C

          Optical: /dev/sr0 model: N/A rev: N/A dev-links: cdrom4,cdrw4,dvd4,dvdrw4

          Features: speed: 48x multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: N/A

Partition: ID-1: / size: 278G used: 82G (30%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1

          label: N/A uuid: c6199281-8783-4e01-b2c9-dab45648bb04

          ID-2: /media/SecondaryStorage size: 11T used: 8.5T (79%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdd1

          label: SecondaryStorage uuid: 85b3b4af-8575-4d65-81dc-ed9eac37d384

          ID-3: /media/FlashStorage size: 109G used: 188M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdc1

          label: FlashStorage uuid: 49162445-cdc9-4d64-a210-9bb5d2dd4f8b

          ID-4: /media/SystemBackup size: 294G used: 224G (77%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1

          label: SystemBackups uuid: d5f3ca0e-0e4a-4177-a3b9-b8d3f095b594

          ID-5: /media/storage size: 26T used: 11T (43%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdg1

          label: PrimaryStorage uuid: 3df96338-d7cf-4e83-9ced-8080219e255e

          ID-6: /media/ForthStorage size: 275G used: 334M (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdf1

          label: ForthStorage uuid: 8b091ae5-81fd-4a2b-bff2-dfcc1cf74a17

          ID-7: /media/ThirdStorage size: 3.6T used: 216G (6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sde1

          label: ThirdStorage uuid: 3bba8308-cb45-4580-828b-883467b26e47

          ID-8: swap-1 size: 17.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5

          label: N/A uuid: 4426f1f2-39fa-4343-8628-a825a5d0b71a

RAID:      System: supported: N/A

          No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present

          Unused Devices: none

Unmounted: No unmounted partitions detected

Sensors:  System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: 32.0C gpu: 0.0:

          Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0 mobo: 6164 fan-1: 0 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 2011 fan-6: 5947 fan-7: 2093

          fan-8: 3835

Info:      Processes: 274 Uptime: 3:05 Memory: 6756.0/48305.8MB

          Init: Upstart v: 1.5 runlevel: 2 default: 2 Gcc sys: 4.6.3 alt: 4.2/4.3/4.4/4.5

          Client: Shell (bash 4.2.251 running in tty 3) inxi: 2.1.28

 

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Correct, i had to figure out the hard way that the bios needed to be updated before it the dual 6 core cpus would work.

 

The unraid version is the latest 64bit beta, 6.0 beta5a

 

It does see both CPUs in the bios, i havent booted to another OS to check if the 12 cores show up there, but im assuming that would work fine.

 

Anyone using this setup with unraid and see all 12 cores?

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5.0 Beta 3 upped the limit in unRAID to 8 cores and that is the only mention of how many I see here http://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php?title=UnRAID_Server_Version_5.0-beta_Release_Notes  And I see nothing in the release notes here http://dnld.lime-technology.com/stable/unRAIDServer-5.0.5-i386.txt  And nothing for 6.0b5a here either http://dnld.lime-technology.com/beta/unRAIDServer-6.0-beta5a-x86_64.txt  Of course that was for a single CPU at the time.

 

So you will probably have to request it be increased to 12 for the next round of betas for 6 and 5.0.6 for released.

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