February 12, 20197 yr Why are disks running which are unassigned and not used? Just a waste of energy. Please spin them automatic down.
February 23, 20197 yr Author Is there any problem with my request? I cnat understand why unraid keeps these drives alive if they wont be used. I also dont have the unassigned plugin installed. So there is 110% no need to power these drives.
February 23, 20197 yr Author As the problems with the new RCs startet (and we didnt got any information about that the issue is known) i thought its that drive, so i removed it from array. Its an old smal drive with mysterios sounds. Edited February 23, 20197 yr by nuhll
February 23, 20197 yr 2 minutes ago, nuhll said: Its an old smal drive with mysterios sounds. Sounds like it is unreliable, I would remove it from the system.
February 23, 20197 yr Author Yes, that will happen long therm, shot therm i cant reach the server. so it needs to be unassinged. Still, i dont see a reason why unraid should keep unused disks running - if they are inside the array or not.
February 23, 20197 yr Any devices outside the array are not directly controlled by emhttp and do not have associated settings, like spin down delay. It is not a trivial exercise to include unassigned devices into the logic used for array devices, and normal use case is to assign devices to the array or cache once they are physically installed.
February 23, 20197 yr At system startup, it is the linux kernel which spins up all devices, it needs to learn what is present.
February 23, 20197 yr IInstall the Unassigned Disks plugin and the disk should spin down. Edited February 23, 20197 yr by dlandon
February 23, 20197 yr Author 8 hours ago, bonienl said: Nothing is broken ... No, working as intented, why save power! Unraid / Linux spins it up, but not down, complete logic. 8 hours ago, dlandon said: IInstall the Unassigned Disks plugin and the disk should spin down. Will try that.
February 23, 20197 yr Author 9 hours ago, dlandon said: IInstall the Unassigned Disks plugin and the disk should spin down. Is there a way to manually spin the disk up without restarting?
February 23, 20197 yr 16 minutes ago, nuhll said: Is there a way to manually spin the disk up without restarting? You can mount it.
March 30, 20197 yr I want to use 2x old 2tb mybooks as a on-site backup of my more critical array data. but yea if it wont spin down I dont see that happening anytime soon. I get nuhll point of how it should be working because thats exactly how I want it to work too.
April 1, 20197 yr On 3/30/2019 at 1:40 AM, BelgarionNL said: I want to use 2x old 2tb mybooks as a on-site backup of my more critical array data. but yea if it wont spin down I dont see that happening anytime soon. I get nuhll point of how it should be working because thats exactly how I want it to work too. It won't be a backup, if you keep the disks connected to the system, even if they are spun down...
July 1, 20197 yr On 4/1/2019 at 2:34 PM, pappaq said: It won't be a backup, if you keep the disks connected to the system, even if they are spun down... I don't get this comment. It's a backup. It may not be offsite, but it's definitely a backup! Anyway, I have a WD MyBook USB drive attached to my box for on-site backups. It's mounted via Unassigned Devices and backup is via Duplicati (with one backup kicking off each night). I want it spun down the rest of the time. I've found the following works: hdparm -B 127 /dev/sdb hdparm -S 12 /dev/sdb First command switches on power-management. Second sets spin down to 2 minutes. I've had the put these commands in /boot/config/go as they don't persist after a reboot. I've also found that viewing the webUI 'main' screen spins the disk back up, which is a shame but liveable with unless anyone can suggest a way to avoid this. Interestingly I have another drive attached in exactly the same way (Segate external) and this does spin down without any of this. It also doesn't spin up as the WD does when I view the web ui so the WD must be responding to something Unassigned Devices is sending. I hope this is helpful to the OP. Edited July 1, 20197 yr by page3
July 2, 20197 yr 15 hours ago, page3 said: I don't get this comment. It's a backup. It may not be offsite, but it's definitely a backup! As long as the drives are physically connected to the server, the data is not secured against crypto viruses and other ransomware, so no backup. But do as you please.
July 2, 20197 yr 9 hours ago, pappaq said: As long as the drives are physically connected to the server, the data is not secured against crypto viruses and other ransomware, so no backup. But do as you please. That an interesting observation and one I hadn’t considered. I swap between external drives, taking one offsite so the window of attack is lessoned, if not eliminated. I’ll have to consider if I change my backup practice, or if I’m willing to take the (small imho) risk. Thanks for the clarification.
August 27, 20205 yr On 7/1/2019 at 5:50 PM, page3 said: I don't get this comment. It's a backup. It may not be offsite, but it's definitely a backup! Anyway, I have a WD MyBook USB drive attached to my box for on-site backups. It's mounted via Unassigned Devices and backup is via Duplicati (with one backup kicking off each night). I want it spun down the rest of the time. I've found the following works: hdparm -B 127 /dev/sdb hdparm -S 12 /dev/sdb First command switches on power-management. Second sets spin down to 2 minutes. I've had the put these commands in /boot/config/go as they don't persist after a reboot. I've also found that viewing the webUI 'main' screen spins the disk back up, which is a shame but liveable with unless anyone can suggest a way to avoid this. Interestingly I have another drive attached in exactly the same way (Segate external) and this does spin down without any of this. It also doesn't spin up as the WD does when I view the web ui so the WD must be responding to something Unassigned Devices is sending. I hope this is helpful to the OP. thanks for the insight as I am also geting the same issue with my unasigned drivers, which are WD REDS. I am also looking at a temp solution to backup my data as my main off site backup server is full, and I like your ideal, but I am looking at using a script command to copy the data over then using duplicti.
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