icon123 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I just started preclearing (1) 1TB EARS and (2) 1TB EADS drives. The EARS has a load cycle count of ~ 150k. Should I be concerned and is there anything I can do about that? Link to comment
Joe L. Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 I just started preclearing (1) 1TB EARS and (2) 1TB EADS drives. The EARS has a load cycle count of ~ 150k. Should I be concerned and is there anything I can do about that? Yes, you can, but it has nothing to do with the preclear itself, so I'm going to move this thread to the hard-disk forum. Joe L. Link to comment
lionelhutz Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 There is a program called wdidle3 to adjust the timer for the head parking. A Google search should find lots of info. Basically, you run it and set the timer to a much longer value so that the head doesn't park on short pauses between disk accesses. Peter Link to comment
neilt0 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 There is a program called wdidle3 to adjust the timer for the head parking. A Google search should find lots of info. Basically, you run it and set the timer to a much longer value so that the head doesn't park on short pauses between disk accesses. Peter Is this the version to use? Can someone confirm it won't kill my 2TB EARS? http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=609&sid=113 "This firmware modifies the behavior of the drive to wait longer before positioning the heads in their park position and turning off unnecessary electronics. This utility is designed to upgrade the firmware of the following hard drives: WD1000FYPS-01ZKB0, WD7500AYPS-01ZKB0, WD7501AYPS-01ZKB0. CAUTION: Do not attempt to run this software on any hard drives other than what is listed above. Please make sure that the computer system is not turned off during the firmware upgrade. Doing so may damage the hard drive beyond repair and your data may be lost." Link to comment
lionelhutz Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I've never tried it myself but many people have posted it's "officially" listed to only use with certain drives but it stil workeds with their new EARS drives. I should have pointed out. If this drive reached 150k counts during the pre-clear then it's really acting up. My one EADS has reached 18k counts in 11k hours of operation just for reference. I don't consider that excessive and am not planning on doing anything about it. Peter Link to comment
icon123 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 I should have pointed out. If this drive reached 150k counts during the pre-clear then it's really acting up. My one EADS has reached 18k counts in 11k hours of operation just for reference. I don't consider that excessive and am not planning on doing anything about it. Peter It had 150k from 7367 hours of WHS use. This was the smart report at the start of the preclearing. Link to comment
Kaygee Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Doesnt say these are new drives, could be pre_clearing themn after re-purposing. In which case load count of 150K is entirely plausible. If you are really concerned I'd give WD a call tell them how old each drive is (SMART report, power on hours) and the load count. I wouldnt consider possibly trashing a drive because the load count is 150K. This isnt an error parameter or indicating there is an issue with the drive. These new fangled green drives reguarly park the heads and shutdown un necessary motors and actuators to save power. The drive in unRAID spend most of their time powered down anyway. If it isnt broken, dont fix it. Link to comment
Kir Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Disable "Advanced Power Management" using command: hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdx It will not affect spindown. Link to comment
perfessor101 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 am I typing this wrong? on a WDC WD10EADS it returns Linux 2.6.32.9-unRAID. root@storage:# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda /dev/sda: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error APM_level = not supported I've got an old computer I'm running a preclear of a new WD 2TB EARS on ... pass 2.5 ;-) I used it to run wdidle3 from freedos before starting the preclear ... as I move drives from my old case to the RPC-4224 I'll pop them into that computer and wdidle3.exe them first ... Link to comment
Kir Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 am I typing this wrong? on a WDC WD10EADS it returns Linux 2.6.32.9-unRAID. root@storage:# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda /dev/sda: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error APM_level = not supported ... All it means that it's not supported on WD10EADS. I thought we were talking about EARS drives? This command will not hurt in any case. Link to comment
perfessor101 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Sorry glitched and ran the command on my first WD drive ... Here's the output from EARS drives only WD20EARS-00M root@storage:/# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdd /dev/sdd: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error WD20EARS-00J root@storage:/# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sde /dev/sde: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error WD15EARS-00S root@storage:/# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdh /dev/sdh: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error currently on unRaid 4.6, I'll upgrade tomorrow to 4.7 on this server Bobby Link to comment
lionelhutz Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 OK, the excessive cound existed before the pre-clear. So, I would run the drive in unRAID and monitor it. The count may slow right down so you can just use it without having to bother doing anything to stop it. Peter Link to comment
Kir Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Sorry glitched and ran the command on my first WD drive ... Here's the output from EARS drives only WD20EARS-00M root@storage:/# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdd /dev/sdd: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error WD20EARS-00J root@storage:/# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sde /dev/sde: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error WD15EARS-00S root@storage:/# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdh /dev/sdh: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error currently on unRaid 4.6, I'll upgrade tomorrow to 4.7 on this server Bobby Hmm... really strange. This is my output: root@storage:~# hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda /dev/sda: setting Advanced Power Management level to disabled APM_level = off This is what I get on all my HDDs - WD, Samsung, Hitachi PS: Just noticed you called yours "storage" also Link to comment
perfessor101 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'm guessing it might be the motherboard or the bios ... your way is much less hassle I'm using 4 in 3 cooler master stacker drive cages ... I guess it's time to move stuff over to the RPC-4224 ... and in transit I can use wdidle3 on another computer one EARS at a time ... Link to comment
jeff.lebowski Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Disable "Advanced Power Management" using command: hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdx It will not affect spindown. Saw this command in a Newegg review of a WD20EARS: hdparm -S 242 /dev/sdX Is it similar to yours? Link to comment
Kir Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Disable "Advanced Power Management" using command: hdparm -B 255 /dev/sdx It will not affect spindown. Saw this command in a Newegg review of a WD20EARS: hdparm -S 242 /dev/sdX Is it similar to yours? No. -S is used to set the spindown timer. -B disables advanced power management and has no effect on spindown. It does however disables annoying head parking when spindle is still rotating. Link to comment
jeff.lebowski Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Thanks for the clarification. I'll apply this right away. Link to comment
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