Suche benutzt - keine Lösung : 1 von 2 SSD Festplatten wird nicht erkannt, egal an welchem USB Port, Plugin UD zeigt nichts an

[rlw]

Hallo,

 

Ihr seid meine Ultima ratio, bevor ich es aufgebe. Ich HABE die Suche benutzt und mich durch alle Beiträge gearbeitet, 1,5 Wochen lang. Nichts hat mir eine Lösung beschert.

Ich habe einen Quad-Core, GUID USB und Unraid gerade NOCHMALS neu installiert. In dem Gerät sind 4 Festplatten:

1. 256 GB SSD SATA

2. 256 GB SSD SATA

3. 30TB SSD USB hinten

Diese werden auch alle erkannt.

4. baugleich wie 3. 30TB SSD USB (hinten oder vorne) NICHT erkannt

 

Wobei nicht erkannt ist nicht korrekt. Das System an sich erkennt sie unter Tools > System Devices > SCSI Devices ist sie aufgeführt mit den anderen FP auch und dem USB Stick (ist auch mit GPT formatiert, wie 3. auch). Foto anbei.

 

Dann habe ich in den Beiträgen meiner Suche gelesen, das Plugin Unassigned Devices könne helfen. Installiert, aber nichts. Habe auch sonst ausser dem Connect keine weiteren Plugins und auch sonst noch nichts am System verändert. Auch schon mehrfach neu installiert, USB Kabel der 4 ausgetauscht, wieder formattiert und an an anderen Rechnern getestet, dort wird sie erkannt.

 

Nun habe ich in UD gesehen, dass die Partition die auf der 4. FP ist, plötzlich auf der 3. erscheint. UnraidP1 ist die einzige Partition die auf der 3. FP ist (wenn ich sie an andere Rechner hänge) und Unraid2 ist auf der 4., nicht erkannten FP die Partition, wenn sie an anderen Rechnern hängt.

 

Ich weiß nicht mehr weiter. Weiß es jemand von Euch ?

 

DANKE SCHÖN

 

[dlandon]

Post diagnostics and a screen shot of the UD page.  Your photos are very hard to read.

[jj1987]

3 hours ago, rlw said:

3. 30TB SSD USB hinten

Diese werden auch alle erkannt.

4. baugleich wie 3. 30TB SSD USB (hinten oder vorne) NICHT erkannt

1.Wirklich 30TB?

2. USB... Vermutlich haben die KEINE unikale Seriennummer. UNRAID erkennt Disks aber an ihrer Seriennummer. Folge: UNRAID sieht zweimal das vermeintlich selbe Gerät und springt daher fröhlich hin und her

[rlw]

@dlandon will do tomorrow morning first thing, sorry, was a bit desorganized today

 

@jj1987 1. yes, proven. Mhmmm, they have a very similar but different serial. I would like to have both drives. I will check again and come back tomorrow

 

thx both

[rlw]

@dlandon I cannot upload diagnostics nor the UD page, sorry

@jj1987 They have different UUIDs. sda2 and sdb1 are the two USB drives which are shown as ONE harddrive although they are 2 with each 30TB

root@Tower:~# blkid
/dev/sda2: LABEL="UnraidP1" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" UUID="44D6B733D6B72458" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic data partition" PARTUUID="ffd7e247-a2af-4a38-9902-5bc48e970148"
/dev/sdb1: LABEL="unraid2" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" UUID="01DA32BD5EE059A0" TYPE="ntfs" PARTLABEL="Basic data partition" PARTUUID="421aa1a0-32bd-01da-5050-0da15e19ed00"
/dev/sdc1: LABEL_FATBOOT="UNRAID" LABEL="UNRAID" UUID="2732-64F5" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat"
/dev/loop1: TYPE="squashfs"
/dev/loop0: TYPE="squashfs"
/dev/sde2: BLOCK_SIZE="512" UUID="6A28E1A628E1718D" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="2815b5ac-02"
/dev/sde3: BLOCK_SIZE="512" UUID="BA1AF2DD1AF2959B" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="2815b5ac-03"
/dev/sde1: LABEL="System-reserviert" BLOCK_SIZE="512" UUID="1AE0DE0CE0DDEE4F" TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="2815b5ac-01"
/dev/sda1: PARTLABEL="Microsoft reserved partition" PARTUUID="98ce8bd0-015c-4468-aa5c-b3fed2f24bbe"

 

 

[dlandon]

It's going to be hard to help you without diagnostics and a screen shot.

 

The drives have to have unique disk IDs in order for UD to see them as separate disks.  How are they connected to your server?

[rlw]

@dlandon I know but I cannot copy and paste or choose a file here on the server

 

Disk /dev/sda: 28.61 TiB, 31457280000000 bytes, 7680000000 sectors
Disk model: SSD             
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 840E9FD4-F1FB-4F08-952B-501FAD29BDA9

Device     Start        End    Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sda1      6       4095       4090   16M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sda2   4096 7679999487 7679995392 28.6T Microsoft basic data
The backup GPT table is corrupt, but the primary appears OK, so that will be used.


Disk /dev/sdb: 28.61 TiB, 31457280000000 bytes, 7680000000 sectors
Disk model: SSD             
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 2D859B8C-A15B-41D6-A731-D1C89EF5680B

 

and both connected via rear USB - I also tried front (USB-C)

[dlandon]

9 minutes ago, rlw said:

I know but I cannot copy and paste or choose a file here on the server

Why?

 

10 minutes ago, rlw said:

and both connected via rear USB - I also tried front (USB-C)

Separate drive enclosures or in a drive bay?

[rlw]

3 minutes ago, dlandon said:

Why?

 

Separate drive enclosures or in a drive bay?

 1. When I click choose files, nothing happens, I am on the unraid system using the webinterface firefox on the server which is locked as fort knox

2. separate and separate cables, so 2 independent drives.

 

I now worked on GDISK and FDISK trzing to fix errors, nothing

 

[rlw]

I have now started array with the one working USB but it produced errors - I am lost, sorry.

24-12-2023 06:05	Unraid Parity disk error	Alert [TOWER] - Parity disk in error state (disk dsbl)	SDK_SSD-0:0 (sda)

 

In Windows and Raspi both USB SSD are working and can be used. Unraid seems to have too many issues still

Edited December 24, 2023 by rlw

[jj1987]

Auch wenn die SSDs unter Windows laufen, bei 30TB aus China bin ich extrem skeptisch.

Vermutlich waren die auch noch unglaublich günstig?

[saber1]

45 minutes ago, rlw said:

When I click choose files, nothing happens, I am on the unraid system using the webinterface firefox on the server which is locked as fort knox

Please connect to your server via another device and download the Diagnostics to it.

Then upload it here.

[rlw]

2 minutes ago, jj1987 said:

Auch wenn die SSDs unter Windows laufen, bei 30TB aus China bin ich extrem skeptisch.

Vermutlich waren die auch noch unglaublich günstig?

Tatsächlich kamen die aus EU (gebaut in China) beide zusammen knapp 5000 €

Edited December 24, 2023 by rlw

[DataCollector]

49 minutes ago, rlw said:

 1. When I click choose files, nothing happens, I am on the unraid system using the webinterface firefox on the server which is locked as fort knox

 

ich nutze Opera für das unraid Forum, da ich mit dem Firefox Probleme habe.

Da das unraidsystem eigentlich ein NAS ist kann man die Datei auf dem NAS auf ein Share der SMB Freigabe verschieben und dann auch extern zugreifen.

Alternativ unraid WebGUI von außerhalb versuchen aufzurufen.

 

49 minutes ago, rlw said:

2. separate and separate cables, so 2 independent drives.

 

Vermutung: Beide externe Gehäuse vom selben Hersteller sogar selbes Modell und somit vermutlich auch selbe DeviceID?

Wenn ja, kann die Unterscheidung dadurch verkompliziert werden.

 

[rlw]

10 minutes ago, DataCollector said:

Vermutung: Beide externe Gehäuse vom selben Hersteller sogar selbes Modell und somit vermutlich auch selbe DeviceID?

Wenn ja, kann die Unterscheidung dadurch verkompliziert werden.

 

Das habe ich gecheckt, haben bis auf das PartLabel unterschiedliche IDs und UUIDs und PartUUIDs. Das kann es nicht sein. Ich gebe mir jetzt noch eine Stunde, es ist Heiligabend auch für Euch und Ihr habt besseres zu tun als mein Problem zu lösen. Ich kann alles zurückgeben (gut, den Tower hatte ich noch). Dann wars das. Mein Geduldsfaden ist nur noch 3mm lang

[rlw]

@dlandon Attached Diagnostics and UD Screenshot.

 

I had the ONE 30TB drive added to the array and as mentioned got critical errors. No none of the USB-C SSDs is appearing anymore 

tower-diagnostics-20231224-1558.zip FireShot Capture 051 - Tower_Main - 192.168.178.72.pdf

[dlandon]

Linux is not seeing the USB disks.  Go into the BIOS and see if the disks are recognized.  You might have to make some USB adjustments.

[rlw]

@dlandonLinux is seeing the devices (/dev/sda and /dev/sdb) - I was in the bios, all disks there, all USB entries enabled. See screenshot and "fdisk -l" below

 

And interestingly enough, even UNRAID recognizes the two USB as TWO USB Drives (sda and sdb). If there was an issue with recognition (and they have differen UUIDs and PartUUIDs) they would not appear under SCSI devices under Tools / Systemdevices.

 

root@Tower:~# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/loop0: 60.29 MiB, 63217664 bytes, 123472 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes


Disk /dev/loop1: 333.06 MiB, 349237248 bytes, 682104 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
The backup GPT table is corrupt, but the primary appears OK, so that will be used.


Disk /dev/sda: 28.61 TiB, 31457280000000 bytes, 7680000000 sectors
Disk model: SSD             
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: gpt
Disk identifier: 46D7FF30-779D-4B65-9A32-9A81F2EBD651

Device     Start        End    Sectors  Size Type
/dev/sda1      8 7679999994 7679999987 28.6T Linux filesystem


Disk /dev/sdb: 28.61 TiB, 31457280000000 bytes, 7680000000 sectors
Disk model: SSD             
Units: sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/sdc: 28.48 GiB, 30579621888 bytes, 59725824 sectors
Disk model: Transcend 32GB  
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Device     Boot Start      End  Sectors  Size Id Type
/dev/sdc1  *     2048 59725823 59723776 28.5G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)


Disk /dev/sdd: 238.47 GiB, 256060514304 bytes, 500118192 sectors
Disk model: FIKWOT FS810 256
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sdd1        2048 500118191 500116144 238.5G 83 Linux


Disk /dev/sde: 238.47 GiB, 256060514304 bytes, 500118192 sectors
Disk model: SSD_2.5"_256GB_I
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sde1        2048 500118191 500116144 238.5G 83 Linux
root@Tower:~# 

 

 

Edited December 24, 2023 by rlw

[dlandon]

Click on the double arrows icon in the upper right hand of the UD page and see if that will pick them up.

[rlw]

Only one of them (sda), sdb is missing still.

 

 

[dlandon]

There is an issue with the screen shot you posted and the device listing:

• You show sda as a 32TB SSD, but the screen shot shows it as your flash.
• You show sdb as a 32TB SSD, but the screen shot shows it as a 256G disk.

This makes it hard to figure out what is going on.

 

5 minutes ago, rlw said:

Only one of them (sda), sdb is missing still.

The disk serial (ID) does not make sense and the other disk is probably showing the same ID and therefore wouldn't be recognized.

 

Do the following:

• Post another diagnostics in the current state so I can see what udev is finding about the drives.
• Remove the USB disks and reboot.
• Install the USB disks and see if they are properly recognized by UD.

[rlw]

1 minute ago, dlandon said:

There is an issue with the screen shot you posted and the device listing:

• You show sda as a 32TB SSD, but the screen shot shows it as your flash.
• You show sdb as a 32TB SSD, but the screen shot shows it as a 256G disk.

This makes it hard to figure out what is going on.

 

The disk serial (ID) does not make sense and the other disk is probably showing the same ID and therefore wouldn't be recognized.

 

Do the following:

• Post another diagnostics in the current state so I can see what udev is finding about the drives.
• Remove the USB disks and reboot.
• Install the USB disks and see if they are properly recognized by UD.

Before I do that, @dlandon check the SCSI devices, the server has 2x256GB SSD SATA and 2x30TB USB SSD and a 32GB Flash (for unraid OS)

 

Shall I still do the three steps (later)?

[rlw]

I may try OMV just to see if it is an unraid issue (what I believe) or not

[dlandon]

12 minutes ago, rlw said:

check the SCSI devices, the server has 2x256GB SSD SATA and 2x30TB USB SSD and a 32GB Flash (for unraid OS)

Yes, I see that.  My point was the screen shot doesn't match that.  I suspect you did the screen shot at a different time.

 

13 minutes ago, rlw said:

Shall I still do the three steps (later)?

I need you to do that so I can see what udev is reporting for the drives.  After you have rebooted and installed the USB disks, give the ouptut of the following command:

ls -la /dev/disk/by-id/

This is where Unraid gets the disk information.

 

13 minutes ago, rlw said:

I may try OMV just to see if it is an unraid issue (what I believe) or not

The issue appears to be what serial numbers are reported for the disks.  Unraid (and UD) expect each disk to have a unique serial and one that makes sense.  Serial number SDK_SSD-0:0 is a nonsensical serial number.

 

So here is what we know:

• Linux sees the disks.
• The serial numbers for the disk(s) don't make sense.

[rlw]

@dlandon

1. They have different serials, see fdisk before, no matter what the undeveloped unraid (sorry, but SDLC whould have to report that as anomaly)

2. The screenshots were 10 seconds apart. 

 

I will try your 3 steps after walking the dog, but this is the last thing. Then we end here and I will forward to Unraid team as there is a mess in their system.