August 30, 201312 yr I'm running 4.7 on an Asus M4A78LT-M mobo with 8 drives (7data+parity) Tonight I changed my psu. I plugged the old cables into the new modular psu (not intentionally). Anyway I powered up the system and one of the hard drives sparked and started to smoke so I pulled the power to try save what I could. Now when I power the unit up with the one that was smoking unplugged it is showing 6 of the drives missing. Can any one recommend a corse of action? I haven't done anything yet. I don't want to make things worse.
August 30, 201312 yr I would start with pulling one drive at a time and put into another computer and see if the drives are still alive. Can you explain the power supply cable issue you mentioned? Did you have a modular supply to begin with and used the old cables on the new supply?
August 30, 201312 yr Author I was putting in a larger PSU, upgrading from 550w to 850w due to expansion as a stop gap while I got my new esxi box up and running. The old PSU is modular and so is the new one. The cables got mixed up and I have installing some of the old cables and some of the new ones in the new psu. The looked identical apart from the new ones have some text on the heat shrink where the old ones don't.
August 30, 201312 yr Author Mods can you move this to general support? I didn't notice this was 5.0 specific. Cheers.
August 31, 201312 yr I am assuming you are using a windows computer, you need to google for a windows driver that will read REISERFS. Install this driver and then attach your drives to see if they are working. If the drive is not totally busted you will see your files and will be able to get them off with copying or reusing.. If the drive is showing corruption or you feel like the drive is working but you still do not see files then get back here, some filesystem checks might help.. This really is a bad thing that happened to you... sorry to see it..
August 31, 201312 yr Author Thanks for the tip. I"m gutted. Literally hundreds of hours ripping DVDs and blurays seemingly wasted.
August 31, 201312 yr If you have a Windows PC, you can connect the drive to it (perhaps with a USB enclosure) and use Yareg to see if the data is there. You can even copy the data to another drive if needed.
August 31, 201312 yr Author All being well ill be able to hook up a pc tomorrow. If they don't work it looks like I will be going down the data recovery service route. Any recommendations for companies on the UK?
August 31, 201312 yr Thanks for the tip. I"m gutted. Literally hundreds of hours ripping DVDs and blurays seemingly wasted. That's what backups are for !! I've spent thousands of hours over the past decade+ ripping, recompressing, organizing, etc. all the movies on my server. No way would I ever be without a backup!! Hopefully you'll be able to recover the data -- it's unlikely the platters themselves were damaged; but if the circuit boards were all fried you're going to need to use professional data recovery to restore the data ... at a cost of several hundred/disk. These guys are very good and (by recovery standards) reasonably priced: http://gillware.com/ I have no idea if they'll do a "quantity discount" for a group of drives with the same fundamental issue, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. The do ship internationally ... although I'm sure there are good recovery outfits in the UK as well (I just don't have any idea who they are). If you're trying to read the drives on a PC< the free reader here works well: http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/ DON'T do this with your good UnRAID drives (you don't want to do ANYTHING that may write to those drives until you get this sorted out -- by far the #1 rule of Data Recovery is STOP, don't do ANYTHING that may write to the drive) ... BUT DO try this if you have a spare drive: Boot to a bootable Linux CD, or to another flash drive prepared with the basic (free) UnRAID, and see if you can "see" other drives connected to the system. You MAY have fried your controller -- not your drives. In fact I'd say that's fairly likely. You'll know when you attach the drives to a PC ... if you "see" them okay there, then it's likely that all of the drives are fine (with the exception of the one that got fried along with the controller). IF that seems to be the case, DO NOTHING ... just report on your results. You can still, if all is done correctly, do a rebuild of the one failed disk at this point. But not if ANY writes are done to ANY of the disks.
August 31, 201312 yr Just took a look at your motherboard specs -- and it does indeed have 6 SATA ports on it. I suspect what I said above is exactly what happened -- i.e. the controller got "fried" ... thus accounting for your 6 missing drives. I presume your other two drives are attached to an add-in card. Report back when you try it ... but I suspect you'll find your drives are okay. If so, you'll need a new motherboard ... but at least your data will all be okay
August 31, 201312 yr OnTrack do data recovery in the UK. They are very good -- I've used them. Figure on about £500 to £1,500 per drive. In other words, forget it. Just re-rip the Blu-rays/DVDs or pay someone to do it for you. I can't say I'd be devastated if I lost all my Blu-ray rips (1,000). I'd just re-rip. No big deal. I just backup my personal data.
August 31, 201312 yr I can't say I'd be devastated if I lost all my Blu-ray rips (1,000). I'd just re-rip. No big deal. I just backup my personal data. All a matter of perspective. I'd think the time to rip 1,000 BluRays would be worth avoiding for the cost of a few high-capacity hard drives to store backups.
September 1, 201312 yr I can't say I'd be devastated if I lost all my Blu-ray rips (1,000). I'd just re-rip. No big deal. I just backup my personal data. All a matter of perspective. I'd think the time to rip 1,000 BluRays would be worth avoiding for the cost of a few high-capacity hard drives to store backups. Not to me. Where would you store the drives? In the same building as the server? In which case, it would be destroyed in the fire as well. And, I'm insured. The likelihood of all 6 drives dying is pretty low. Even the OP may not have had that happen.
September 1, 201312 yr Insurance will buy the hardware, but isn't going to pay to have all your media re-ripped !! I store my backup drives in a waterproof/fireproof safe -- granted it's in our house (at the other end of it from where the server "lives"). Not as good as an off-site setup, but it's pretty secure. I add stuff to my server at a rate of perhaps 200GB/month ... so all it costs me to keep current backups is one new drive every 18 months or so => not, my in view, much $$ for the peace of mind it provides.
September 1, 201312 yr On your Windows box: Download and install the free version of FTK Imager: http://www.accessdata.com/support/product-downloads FTK Imager can navigate and read the ReiserFS drives from unRAID. Hook up one of the drives, and see if you can see it in FTK Imager, and see the files on it.
September 1, 201312 yr Insurance will buy the hardware, but isn't going to pay to have all your media re-ripped !! I store my backup drives in a waterproof/fireproof safe -- granted it's in our house (at the other end of it from where the server "lives"). Not as good as an off-site setup, but it's pretty secure. I add stuff to my server at a rate of perhaps 200GB/month ... so all it costs me to keep current backups is one new drive every 18 months or so => not, my in view, much $$ for the peace of mind it provides. My rate is way higher than that!
September 1, 201312 yr If you really did get lucky and only fried the controller board then you can buy an identical drive new, swap the board, recover the data, swap the board again, and use the new drive in the array. I've done it, after a lightening strike, it can work. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4
September 1, 201312 yr My rate is way higher than that! Even if you're adding 1TB/month, you'd only need one new drive every 4 months to maintain a complete backup
September 1, 201312 yr My rate is way higher than that! Even if you're adding 1TB/month, you'd only need one new drive every 4 months to maintain a complete backup My Blu-ray discs are my backup. If you are running a continuous 1:1 backup you don't need unRAID. You are running an offline RAID1. And I'm at way more than 1TB a month.
September 1, 201312 yr garycase will never back down from a backup is required argument. just realize that and move on i think this is why he has that user name. Gary will always make the backup Case. I'm in the same boat as you. Funds don't allow me to have 1:1 backups of movies. My critical files (i.e. photo's, tax stuff, etc) is small enough to save on a cheap external USB drive, good enough for me.
September 1, 201312 yr Author I've nipped into the office and borrowed a windows pc. Just setting it up and after the young un' has gone to bed ill investigate. Fingers crossed it will be the controller. Ill report back. I've found a company that say they do a fixed price data recovery £120+vat. Might risk the one that had smoke coming out of it before trying the rest. I have my docs on a backup. I didnt think that losing my movies would be an issue, just re-rip it. As it turns out it is a real annoyance. Lesson learned and a second box offsite is getting commissioned.
September 2, 201312 yr Gary will always make the backup Case. 8) Just remember, RAID is NOT a backup. If you don't think you need backups, so be it. It's certainly true you should only insure the things you can't afford to lose ... and a backup is nothing more than insurance.
September 2, 201312 yr Author So the drives are fried. Out of the 8, 3 drives are ok. Looks like I put -12v across the drives and pop! Managed to get most of my iTunes. Looks like the majority of what is lost is bluerays. Going to pull the data off, put it on some new drives in a new rig and get each failed drive recovered one at a time as I can afford it.
September 2, 201312 yr So the drives are fried. Out of the 8, 3 drives are ok. Looks like I put -12v across the drives and pop! Managed to get most of my iTunes. Looks like the majority of what is lost is bluerays. Going to pull the data off, put it on some new drives in a new rig and get each failed drive recovered one at a time as I can afford it. Why? Let's assume you had 2TB drives. If you do a real drive recovery (not the £120 one, that will NOT work), it will cost you £1,000 per drive or £20 per Blu-ray recovered. Just re-rip. Or you could buy new Blu-ray discs at that rate. Or pay a kid £100 to do the ripping. There's absolutely no point in doing drive recovery for non-unique/ non-personal/work data.
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