December 22, 201510 yr When I started the only thing that mattered between unraid and its competitors was the ability to easily increase storage space and that you don't need matched hard drives That ability was critical and made it pretty easy to disqualify some solutions. The forum clinched the deal. i had zero NAS experience and next to no knowledge (not much has improved on either count there), but the forum here was an absolute deal maker for me. have you even tried some of the other NAS boards ? , at the time i was setting up, rude, arrogant know it alls pouring scorn on lowly peons who dare to venture into their personal domains with questions.
December 22, 201510 yr I encourage everyone to go and try a different solution... They all wind up back here. (as I've done whenever I get bored with unraid)
December 22, 201510 yr When I started the only thing that mattered between unraid and its competitors was the ability to easily increase storage space and that you don't need matched hard drives That ability was critical and made it pretty easy to disqualify some solutions. The forum clinched the deal. That was one of the major selling points to me as well. Does LimeTech not have a feature comparision chart on the website somehwere?
December 22, 201510 yr "patching" of unraid is done through a webui, so time is find plugin, paste link in to the plugin page, click install. reboot if necessary.... i wish they could make that so much easier....... Actually "patching" is pretty much install Community Applications, select plugin, click install nowadays.... Plugins are all actually categorized. So it's really a matter a matter of finding which of the 300+ apps you want and hit install. STOP MAKING THINGS EASIER, GUT DEM IT Ok... Admittedly you have to first find and install CA sounds like too much hassle to me, can you make it easier ? Not until LT gets beer steins and coffee mugs back in stock
December 23, 201510 yr When I started the only thing that mattered between unraid and its competitors was the ability to easily increase storage space and that you don't need matched hard drives That ability was critical and made it pretty easy to disqualify some solutions. The forum clinched the deal. That was one of the major selling points to me as well. Does LimeTech not have a feature comparision chart on the website somehwere? The problem with comparing features is you can make anything sound good. Hell I can make Hilary and Trump sound good on paper
December 23, 201510 yr When I started the only thing that mattered between unraid and its competitors was the ability to easily increase storage space and that you don't need matched hard drives That ability was critical and made it pretty easy to disqualify some solutions. The forum clinched the deal. That was one of the major selling points to me as well. Does LimeTech not have a feature comparision chart on the website somehwere? The problem with comparing features is you can make anything sound good. Hell I can make Hilary and Trump sound good on paper some of those comparison charts for software are hilariously biased.
December 23, 201510 yr Honestly I don't think you'll ever see an LimeTech generated comparison chart. I just don't think its their style to attempt to say ours is better and this is why. Honestly I'd just fire up a machine with a USB stick and try it. Worst case you don't like it and you simply pull out your stick.
December 23, 201510 yr When I started the only thing that mattered between unraid and its competitors was the ability to easily increase storage space and that you don't need matched hard drives That ability was critical and made it pretty easy to disqualify some solutions. The forum clinched the deal. That was one of the major selling points to me as well. Does LimeTech not have a feature comparision chart on the website somehwere? The problem with comparing features is you can make anything sound good. [glow=red,2,300] Hell I can make Hilary and Trump sound good on paper[/glow] can you can you really beside the fact that they are both human and can breathe on their own !!!!
December 23, 201510 yr Checksumming is available in unRAID when btrfs is selected as your file system. However, at this moment unRAID does not support repairing the bad data from parity. Please see this thread for more information on this feature: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=44400.0 It is possible for Lime-Tech to put a solution in place, but they haven't said yet whether they plan on doing so. This only addresses one of your concerns, but silent errors are my major concern with unRAID so I thought this might help make your decision a little bit easier.
December 24, 201510 yr Checksumming is available in unRAID when btrfs is selected as your file system. However, at this moment unRAID does not support repairing the bad data from parity. Please see this thread for more information on this feature: http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=44400.0 It is possible for Lime-Tech to put a solution in place, but they haven't said yet whether they plan on doing so. This only addresses one of your concerns, but silent errors are my major concern with unRAID so I thought this might help make your decision a little bit easier. Not to trivialize the importance of checksum's / silent errors, but the one fact that I always find humorous is that while everyone wants their server's to be able to find / fix silent errors, the vast majority of users ignore that on their own desktops which wind up writing / manipulating the data on the servers. Not using RAIDed drives for the OS / immediate storage (my documents). Using NTFS. Not having ECC memory. Not creating checksums on the source and then comparing them to the checksums after being written to the server. Any network is only as good as the weakest link. If the source of the files (your desktop) isn't secure against any and all types of silent errors, then no matter what you do, your server will never be secure either.
December 25, 201510 yr Not to trivialize the importance of checksum's / silent errors, but the one fact that I always find humorous is that while everyone wants their server's to be able to find / fix silent errors, the vast majority of users ignore that on their own desktops which wind up writing / manipulating the data on the servers. Not using RAIDed drives for the OS / immediate storage (my documents). Using NTFS. Not having ECC memory. Not creating checksums on the source and then comparing them to the checksums after being written to the server. Any network is only as good as the weakest link. If the source of the files (your desktop) isn't secure against any and all types of silent errors, then no matter what you do, your server will never be secure either. That's a fair enough point for data that gets updated from time-to-time. The way most backup software works, if the data silently rots on the source after it is stored on the server, the rot will not be copied to the server because the archive flag/timestamp will not update with silent corruption. In any case, I'm worried about data that gets archived to the server and doesn't get looked at for four or five years. This has been the sole missing feature keeping me from buying this product. Until something gives at LT or with another NAS dev group, I'll just keep lurking around these threads for updates on the situation.
December 25, 201510 yr Until something gives at LT or with another dev group, I'll just keep lurking around these threads for updates on the situation. Fair enough... Since this is an important issue to you, I would sincerely hope you ditch the Optiplex 760 and get something that's going to support ECC memory.
December 25, 201510 yr Until something gives at LT or with another dev group, I'll just keep lurking around these threads for updates on the situation. Fair enough... Since this is an important issue to you, I would sincerely hope you ditch the Optiplex 760 and get something that's going to support ECC memory. Already did. I dropped it for power consumption, not ECC, but that was a bonus that came along with upgrading hardware. 15 watts idle draw isn't too bad, at least compared to the 85+ that I had.
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