Changing the port? TOWER not coming up.

[opentoe]

I currently have an unraid up and running using the default port. There is a time consuming copy going on it and I can't shut it down. I made a new USB bootable with the latest version to get the GUID of the USB drive. So I stuck it in my spare laptop and it loaded. I now see TOWER on my network, but can't access via any computers on the LAN. I can ping it just fine, log into the local laptop just fine as well. When I try to access it via web browser via Chrome or IE, it doesn't come up. I use the IP address of course. Is it not coming up because the original unraid box is using that port or something? My scanner program indicates my original unraid has HTTP and FTP open and on the laptop I just FTP.

 

[opentoe]

I currently have an unraid up and running using the default port. There is a time consuming copy going on it and I can't shut it down. I made a new USB bootable with the latest version to get the GUID of the USB drive. So I stuck it in my spare laptop and it loaded. I now see TOWER on my network, but can't access via any computers on the LAN. I can ping it just fine, log into the local laptop just fine as well. When I try to access it via web browser via Chrome or IE, it doesn't come up. I use the IP address of course. Is it not coming up because the original unraid box is using that port or something? My scanner program indicates my original unraid has HTTP and FTP open and on the laptop I just FTP.

 

Figured it out. I had to run "emhttp" manually from the command line. Finally got my my GUID and will try another USB stick I have as well.

 

[opentoe]

Actually, would there be a reason why 'emhttp' doesn't load by itself? This us using a confirmed USB hardware, and seems to work fine but I have to type in 'emhttp' from the command line to get the browser daemon to come up.

 

I just tried another USB stick, a Verbatim Store n Go 16GB and that worked just fine and also has it's own GUID. But I want to use my newer USB stick which was given to me as a gift. It is SanDisk_Fit (one of those real small ones) and is 64GB. I know it is overkill, but it is brand new.

 

[Squid]

Actually, would there be a reason why 'emhttp' doesn't load by itself? This us using a confirmed USB hardware, and seems to work fine but I have to type in 'emhttp' from the command line to get the browser daemon to come up.

 

I just tried another USB stick, a Verbatim Store n Go 16GB and that worked just fine and also has it's own GUID. But I want to use my newer USB stick which was given to me as a gift. It is SanDisk_Fit (one of those real small ones) and is 64GB. I know it is overkill, but it is brand new.

what does your "go" file look like?  /boot/config/go

[opentoe]

Actually, would there be a reason why 'emhttp' doesn't load by itself? This us using a confirmed USB hardware, and seems to work fine but I have to type in 'emhttp' from the command line to get the browser daemon to come up.

 

I just tried another USB stick, a Verbatim Store n Go 16GB and that worked just fine and also has it's own GUID. But I want to use my newer USB stick which was given to me as a gift. It is SanDisk_Fit (one of those real small ones) and is 64GB. I know it is overkill, but it is brand new.

what does your "go" file look like?  /boot/config/go

 

Oddly there is no GO file. I'm going to reformat the USB stick again and copy the latest files back on. When I try to format I can only format with NTFS or something called eXT or something like that. It doesn't "need" to be FAT32, does it? I also have another spare laptop, different model and it did the same thing. My Store N Go 16GB loaded just fine and the Sandisk Fit 64GB did not. The only difference between the two was I was able to format the 16GB stick to FAT32.

 

 

[garycase]

Do you have your original server named something other than Tower?    It's always a good idea to change the name to something perhaps more descriptive of your use; or at least different than the default name.  Even Tower1, Tower2, etc. would be fine -- but you don't want naming conflicts on your network.

 

I suspect that may have been at least part of your issue here.

 

[Squid]

Actually, would there be a reason why 'emhttp' doesn't load by itself? This us using a confirmed USB hardware, and seems to work fine but I have to type in 'emhttp' from the command line to get the browser daemon to come up.

 

I just tried another USB stick, a Verbatim Store n Go 16GB and that worked just fine and also has it's own GUID. But I want to use my newer USB stick which was given to me as a gift. It is SanDisk_Fit (one of those real small ones) and is 64GB. I know it is overkill, but it is brand new.

what does your "go" file look like?  /boot/config/go

 

Oddly there is no GO file. I'm going to reformat the USB stick again and copy the latest files back on. When I try to format I can only format with NTFS or something called eXT or something like that. It doesn't "need" to be FAT32, does it? I also have another spare laptop, different model and it did the same thing. My Store N Go 16GB loaded just fine and the Sandisk Fit 64GB did not. The only difference between the two was I was able to format the 16GB stick to FAT32.

Not sure if unRaid will boot from either exFat or NTFS formatted stick.  But, why waste a 64GB stick on unRaid?  You're only going to use a very small fraction of the storage capacity.

[opentoe]

Do you have your original server named something other than Tower?    It's always a good idea to change the name to something perhaps more descriptive of your use; or at least different than the default name.  Even Tower1, Tower2, etc. would be fine -- but you don't want naming conflicts on your network.

 

I suspect that may have been at least part of your issue here.

 

I have found out that formatting the USB stick to NTFS doesn't work properly. I can repeat this problem over and over.

 

 

I have two USB stick here.

Verbatim Store' N Go 16GB

SanDisk Fit 64GB

 

When I try to format the SanDisk I only get the options NTFS or exFAT.

When I try for format the Verbatim I get NTFS or FAT32.

 

If I format either stick with NTFS unraid doesn't load %100. emhttp doesn't load and no GO file is created upon bootup.

If I format the Verbatim to FAT32 unraid loads fine, makes the GO file and loads emhttp.

I can't format the 64GB stick because my machine won't give me the option. If I can get the SanDisk 64GB stick formatted in FAT32, I can then test it to see if it loads unraid %100. So far, right now it seems formatting the USB stick with anything other then FAT32 is causing problems with RC3. I've been testing this on two distinct computers.

 

Also, my original unraid box was never named "TOWER". I changed that the day I built it to something else.

 

I'm going to try and find another older USB stick and format with NTFS and see what happens.

 

If I can replicate the problem over and over, I'm thinking more of a software issue right now. Time to try and dig up another USB stick and format with NTFS and see what happens.

 

[opentoe]

Actually, would there be a reason why 'emhttp' doesn't load by itself? This us using a confirmed USB hardware, and seems to work fine but I have to type in 'emhttp' from the command line to get the browser daemon to come up.

 

I just tried another USB stick, a Verbatim Store n Go 16GB and that worked just fine and also has it's own GUID. But I want to use my newer USB stick which was given to me as a gift. It is SanDisk_Fit (one of those real small ones) and is 64GB. I know it is overkill, but it is brand new.

what does your "go" file look like?  /boot/config/go

 

Oddly there is no GO file. I'm going to reformat the USB stick again and copy the latest files back on. When I try to format I can only format with NTFS or something called eXT or something like that. It doesn't "need" to be FAT32, does it? I also have another spare laptop, different model and it did the same thing. My Store N Go 16GB loaded just fine and the Sandisk Fit 64GB did not. The only difference between the two was I was able to format the 16GB stick to FAT32.

Not sure if unRaid will boot from either exFat or NTFS formatted stick.  But, why waste a 64GB stick on unRaid?  You're only going to use a very small fraction of the storage capacity.

 

As I said in the OP, the USB stick was a gift laying around so I just used it. If there indeed is a problem with unraid using NTFS or exFAT then I'll need to find a way to format to FAT32. My Windows 8.1 64bit machines do not give me that FAT32 option on a 64GB USB stick. Arghhh.

 

[garycase]

The instructions for preparing a flash drive for UnRAID specifically say "... ?Format the device using the FAT (or FAT32) file system."

 

I suspect that's all it works with 

[garycase]

...  I'll need to find a way to format to FAT32.

 

http://fat32-format.en.softonic.com/

[Squid]

http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/format-64gig-usb-flash-drive-to-fat32

[opentoe]

Yep, I'm reading those exact pages now. FAT32 only really formats up to 32GB, but you can use a third party NON Microsoft product to format it to FAT32. Trying now.

 

[opentoe]

Yep, I'm reading those exact pages now. FAT32 only really formats up to 32GB, but you can use a third party NON Microsoft product to format it to FAT32. Trying now.

 

Yep, that was exactly it. The USB stick NEEDS to be FAT32. I downloaded a special utility that was able to format my 64GB stick to FAT32 which was over 32GB. Just in case this happens to anyone in the future, you can download the utility from this link:

http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm

 

I know anything over 16GB is really overkill, but if you just have access to a free USB stick that is compatible it may be a large one. Everything booted normally on both machines. Yahoooo.

 

I also saved the utility to my owncloud, so if you want to download it directly you can from here:

https://www.diggscloud.com/index.php/s/RCziy3bwG2piMNs

 

 

[garycase]

... FAT32 only really formats up to 32GB

 

NO !!  WINDOWS will limit a FAT32 choice to 32GB => FAT32 itself works with disks up to 8TB, although the FAT32 file size limit of 4GB still applies.

 

[opentoe]

... FAT32 only really formats up to 32GB

 

NO !!  WINDOWS will limit a FAT32 choice to 32GB => FAT32 itself works with disks up to 8TB, although the FAT32 file size limit of 4GB still applies.

 

Seems I can transfer my old USB GUID to a new USB stick right from the WebGui. This is good. Because I think my only 6 year old USB stick is starting to get read/write errors once in a while, hence me wanting to upgrade to that 64GB SanDisk-Fit model. Overkill for sure, but it was a gift. Then I'll just buy another pro series key once I get another new stick for my new build eventually. There must be some new 8TB drives rolling down the pike eventually. Really would love to ditch add-on controllers completely.

 

[garycase]

... Really would love to ditch add-on controllers completely.

 

Me too.  I'm pretty sure my next server is going to be in a Silverstone DS380 with 8 8TB or 10TB (depending on what's available) drives ... for either 56TB or 70TB of protected storage.    Hopefully I can find a nice ITX board with 8 ports ... but it's not the end of the world if it needs a 2 port card to top it off.  If the 10TB drives are available, I may just live with 6 drives, which is easily doable without an add-on card.

 

 

[Datapotomus]

I still think it would be nice if in the make_bootable.bat file it errors out if the file system is not FAT or FAT32. I know it does for exFAT, but it still allows you to run the bat with NTFS.

 

I understand that it is plainly documented, but for some really new people catching the filesystem might be an easy miss.

[jonp]

I still think it would be nice if in the make_bootable.bat file it errors out if the file system is not FAT or FAT32. I know it does for exFAT, but it still allows you to run the bat with NTFS.

 

I understand that it is plainly documented, but for some really new people catching the filesystem might be an easy miss.

If you supply the code to do the filesystem check and it works, we would include it. 

 

Like you said, its spelled out in all the docs (even the screenshot guide on our website), so I chalk this up to "got to read the guide" for now unless someone wants to take the time to propose a code change in the bat file.  For now, our #1 priority is bug squashing to get 6.0 from rc to final.