CSIG1001 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Trying to figure out if Unraid can do everything a pre built NAS can do? I do not care about performance , or redundancy just want to know if can be my cloud, do VMs, game servers etc Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Sure. Depending on appropriate definitions of everything. Quote Link to comment
CSIG1001 Posted December 2, 2019 Author Share Posted December 2, 2019 tell what unraid cant do that a NAS can do from synology? Quote Link to comment
whipdancer Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CSIG1001 said: tell what unraid cant do that a NAS can do from synology? You can probably find that answer on a synology forum. You can search the forums or checkout youtube videos for more on what all unRaid can do. Edited December 2, 2019 by whipdancer Quote Link to comment
CHBMB Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 53 minutes ago, CSIG1001 said: tell what unraid cant do that a NAS can do from synology? From someone that tries to support docker on both Unraid and Synology, my overwhelming impression is I wouldn't personally touch a Synology with a 10 foot barge pole. Closed system, weird docker implementation which we see lots of issues with that we can't seem to get to the bottom of. 1 Quote Link to comment
CSIG1001 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Thanks for the feedback you have been the most helpful regarding my question about unraid. Thanks! To whomever said to watch youtube , i have thanks....but I would prefer something intelligent from a forum member who has experience in both areas. Quote Link to comment
Carlos Talbot Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I use to use Synology before switching to Unraid. You won't find any support for iSCSI with Unraid. Synology has better integration into vSphere (e.g. the NFS VAAI Plug-in ). There is no NFS 4.0 in Unraid. Quote Link to comment
gacpac Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 One thing I'm going to say is.Synology UI is fancy and straight easy to use. But I can do so much more with Unraid. Even in money savings. It also depends on the use case, they have enterprise solutions with crazy speed with actual Raid standards if you are into that, whereas Unraid found a nice way of using JBOD with parity.I will like to say "you get what you pay for" but this isn't the case. To get 6 drives working with Synology, easy you have to spend 700+ just for the case. For Unraid, I literally used an old computer laying around and grew from there.One last thing I'm going to say is. I don't know how the community forum for sinology is, but Unraid is the best community I've seen so far, the lounge and developers as well. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
CSIG1001 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 I will be building my Unraid server soon.. how many times can you renew the trial key before getting locked out? Would like to spend at least a month or two testing Also does unraid have cloud capabilities , i saw nextcloud which is what I am looking for to use but is this free? I understand you have to store files on your server and I am fine with that. I just want to be able to link my cell phone and other devices, ipad etc. I know these prebuilt NASs have drop box, google cloud , apple cloud etc.. what do i have to do to effectively get a good cloud solution going for sharing files and photos? Quote Link to comment
Squid Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Quote Trial Keys Trial keys are downloaded from within Unraid OS running on your server (Go to the Tools > Registration page). Trial keys provide time-limited full functionality of Unraid OS, with no attached storage device limit. Trial keys require an internet connection upon server boot in order to validate. Basic/Plus/Pro keys do not require an internet connection. Your Unraid Trial configuration can be moved to a new USB Flash device before purchasing a registration key. Up to two 15-day Trial extensions are possible. To determine if Unraid will work with your hardware, just use a Free 30-Day Trial key! Quote Link to comment
gacpac Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I will be building my Unraid server soon.. how many times can you renew the trial key before getting locked out? Would like to spend at least a month or two testing Also does unraid have cloud capabilities , i saw nextcloud which is what I am looking for to use but is this free? I understand you have to store files on your server and I am fine with that. I just want to be able to link my cell phone and other devices, ipad etc. I know these prebuilt NASs have drop box, google cloud , apple cloud etc.. what do i have to do to effectively get a good cloud solution going for sharing files and photos? Yes you can. It could be a little bit of a learning curve as you would have to set the nextcloud container and the reverse proxy to make it work. But look for spaceinvader in YouTube. They guy has everything you can imagine for Unraid.I think you can do more than a month of trial, and even if it expires, you can keep working as long as the array doesn't stop at any given time. This will you give plenty of time before you decide whether Synology or Unraid.I was in your same position of getting one of this pre-configured NAS, but it's not worth it when you start getting into redundancy, even hosting your own plex server or doing virtualization as well. You need power and an Atom processor can only do as much. But you do what you gotta doSent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
CSIG1001 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, gacpac said: Yes you can. It could be a little bit of a learning curve as you would have to set the nextcloud container and the reverse proxy to make it work. But look for spaceinvader in YouTube. They guy has everything you can imagine for Unraid. I think you can do more than a month of trial, and even if it expires, you can keep working as long as the array doesn't stop at any given time. This will you give plenty of time before you decide whether Synology or Unraid. I was in your same position of getting one of this pre-configured NAS, but it's not worth it when you start getting into redundancy, even hosting your own plex server or doing virtualization as well. You need power and an Atom processor can only do as much. But you do what you gotta do Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk I am definitly sold on Unraid for sure. I already have my dell raid cards already modded for JBOD as well as a intel expansion sas to get me to 24 bays on my nordic case . I have watched spaceinvader 1 and he is the best . I just hope I can setup a cloud to access my files on unraid server off my network. It would almost make sense just to use a 2 bay cheap synology for this though because I am not sure what I am getting into.. I do plan on using SSD cache drives as well.. just a simple 8700 intel cpu with 32gb ram etc.. mostly will be used for plex 2 drive redundancy . Quote Link to comment
gacpac Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 You can do VPN connection to your server if anything. There's an OpenVPN docker container, and also a nice plugin which is my preference, because I can use it with the array offline if anything. Like I said, it's a bit of a learning curve, as you don't have this out of the box pre-configured experience that you get with this off the shelf brands. But it's not like you have to reinvent the wheel or go CLI fixing stuff Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
CSIG1001 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 I have about 64 terabytes of data being transferred what is the best way to copy this data over to the unraid array? Also how much of minimum space should I give a hard drive when writing across the array so it knows when to stop writing. I heard this will extend the life of hard drives Quote Link to comment
CSIG1001 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 Do you think I should set up specific share folders for like Highwater I am not sure how to set up the allocation when writing to the Hard drive.Is there anything I should be concerned about such as my minimum space left on hard drives Quote Link to comment
gacpac Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I have about 64 terabytes of data being transferred what is the best way to copy this data over to the unraid array? Also how much of minimum space should I give a hard drive when writing across the array so it knows when to stop writing. I heard this will extend the life of hard drivesYou can do many ways. Rsync via CLI, also krusader docker container, using the unassigned devices plugin and mount the remote share, if you have a way of mounting that remote share as usb then using krusader. The choice you like most, I wouldn't copy and pasting using windows as you add unnecessary overhead copying and pasting that amount.Also for the shares, and this is personal choice. I left mine in the default settings using high-water. If you want more details I would recommend spaceinvader. He has a video of unraid and Shares how they work, also how to transfer information with the plugins and all that.Another good option is syncthing docker container as it compares both source and destination as it replicates the information. 74TB is going to take time doesn't matter how you look at it. Maybe you want to do it in stages Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
CSIG1001 Posted December 5, 2019 Author Share Posted December 5, 2019 1 hour ago, gacpac said: You can do many ways. Rsync via CLI, also krusader docker container, using the unassigned devices plugin and mount the remote share, if you have a way of mounting that remote share as usb then using krusader. The choice you like most, I wouldn't copy and pasting using windows as you add unnecessary overhead copying and pasting that amount. Also for the shares, and this is personal choice. I left mine in the default settings using high-water. If you want more details I would recommend spaceinvader. He has a video of unraid and Shares how they work, also how to transfer information with the plugins and all that. Another good option is syncthing docker container as it compares both source and destination as it replicates the information. 74TB is going to take time doesn't matter how you look at it. Maybe you want to do it in stages Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk I was thinking of putting my 8 bay JBOD as a local device on my unraid server or yes i can do it remotely on a different desktop in my LAN. Not sure if this is what you mean but which way is better? I will check out those dockers on youtube to see how they work.. ok I will use high water... thanks! and will check out space invader specifically his video on shares. I was thinking maybe copying one 8 TB a day to the server to get it over with. Just not sure if this is reasonable or a faster way to do it? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
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