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Intel 12th generation Alder Lake / Hybrid CPU

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1 minute ago, Oggie said:

What's the best way of solving this issue, having 4k and 1080p library ?

Exactly what you wrote:

1 minute ago, Oggie said:

Let's wait and hope lol.

 

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1 minute ago, ich777 said:

Exactly what you wrote:

 

Thanks for your moral support ;D

9 hours ago, ich777 said:

Try to turno off transcode to h265 in the settings menu.

Are you using my container or the official one, haven‘t tried my container yet on Alder Lake.

I tried switching over to the official one and I can't even start the setup on that one. It just says that it can't connect to it. I'm useless. LOL

It only remains to wait for UnRAID (KERNEL) + PLEX to be compatible with intel 12... patience everything will come...

Edited by xXx

I'm on 6.10.2-rc3 with an i7-12700k.

 

I'm not interested in Plex transcoding, I made the hardware upgrade so I could transcode content for archival storage and I finally decided to take the jump and try it all out tonight.

 

I've ran

 

echo "blacklist i915" > /boot/config/modprobe.d/i915.conf  

 

, installed Intel GPU Top + GPU Statistics, and installed Unmanic with the device specified in extra parameters. I have a task set up for hevc_vaapi (INTEL/AMD), hevc_qsv (Intel) and libx265 (CPU) to test things out.

 

I thought I was going to have to install the new kernel to get results but I did a little initial test before I intended to do this and got results from all three. I only saw activity on GPU statistics for the vaapi/qsv tasks and to confirm this when I removed the /dev/dri device from the extra parameters those two tasks failed. It seems beyond doubt that I am transcoding with hardware.

 

Am I good? Will I get better performance through being on the new kernel? Is something going to not work that would work if I was on the newer kernel? What's happening?

So I'm not interested in transcoding in Plex, what I want to do is use transcode content for archival storage with something like unManic, Tdarr, etc.

 

I've never actually passed through any GPU to anything in Unraid and

2 hours ago, accelaptd said:

I'm on 6.10.2-rc3 with an i7-12700k.

Why are so many people on 6.10.2rc3?

 

6.10.2rc3 is older than 6.10.2... ;)

 

2 hours ago, accelaptd said:

I thought I was going to have to install the new kernel to get results but I did a little initial test before I intended to do this and got results from all three. I only saw activity on GPU statistics for the vaapi/qsv tasks and to confirm this when I removed the /dev/dri device from the extra parameters those two tasks failed. It seems beyond doubt that I am transcoding with hardware.

Can you post screenshots and maybe what you've tested? Do you mean you've tested with Unmanic?

 

2 hours ago, accelaptd said:

Plex

At time of writing Plex crashes Alder Lake systems when using the iGPU for transcoding.

Well I thought I may just get lucky with my mobo CPU combination but it wasn't to be so I will heed the advice from now on and wait 

 

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG STRIX Z690-A GAMING WIFI D4
12th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-12600K
official Plex app

 

crashes Unraid almost immediately on transcode. 

40 minutes ago, coasterman said:

crashes Unraid almost immediately on transcode. 

Please try Jellyfin.

is it just plex that crashes alderlake iGPU?  I have a 12600k, but mainly interested in using my iGPU for VMs, tdarr, etc. as 95% of my plex streams are direct play.

 

Can anyone comment on unRAID stability when plex is not configured to use the iGPU?

Handbrake has previously caused a container lockup or encoding failure for me, but Plex is the only one that seems to take the whole show down in my experience.

Hace 1 hora, derek_zoolander dijo:

¿Es solo plex lo que bloquea la iGPU de alderlake? Tengo un 12600k, pero estoy principalmente interesado en usar mi iGPU para máquinas virtuales, tdarr, etc., ya que el 95 % de mis transmisiones plex son de reproducción directa.

 

¿Alguien puede comentar sobre la estabilidad de unRAID cuando plex no está configurado para usar iGPU?

With direct transmission you have no problem, it is stable with plex, without (HW)

Edited by xXx

thanks everyone!  Got it working!  

To help out @ich777, I installed JellyFin - seems to be transcoding a 4k movie great through the first 10 mins of playback so far (30% transcode progress though).  

Edited by derek_zoolander

I installed IntelGPUTop again and Jellyfin, system crashed some 18 hours in *without* transcoding (Plex does this too)

 

update:

 

jellyfin did end up crashing eventually with this in the log.  Not sure if its related or anything as there was no active transcode occuring, however playback may have been occurring in the browser (I was letting movies run in the background).  UnRAID remained stable throughout though

 

16:47:41] [FTL] [65] Main: Unhandled Exception
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection. (Parameter 'index')
   at System.Collections.Generic.List`1.Remove(T item)
   at Emby.Server.Implementations.Session.WebSocketController.OnConnectionClosed(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.<>c.<ThrowAsync>b__128_1(Object state)
   at System.Threading.QueueUserWorkItemCallback.<>c.<.cctor>b__6_0(QueueUserWorkItemCallback quwi)
   at System.Threading.QueueUserWorkItemCallback.Execute()
   at System.Threading.ThreadPoolWorkQueue.Dispatch()
   at System.Threading.PortableThreadPool.WorkerThread.WorkerThreadStart()

 

Edited by derek_zoolander

On 6/8/2022 at 2:21 AM, ich777 said:

@flyize can you please test if Jellyfin is working on your system and not crashing it? Currently I think the ffmpeg version from Plex is the issue...

I believe this too.  On the chinese forums they have stability with jellyfin.  Have had it since RC4.  And the only thing they did was replicate what was previously discussed in the forum and follow the brief guide I threw togeather on what i did.  

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So in theory the recent Plex Pass version has the newest Alder Lake fixes. I haven't tested it, but along with the 5.18 kernel, it *might* work.

I thought it is already known for long that the current Plex containers are using a broken intel compute runtime (that's why they removed the automatic update of the runtime for the new Plex pass version)

https://forums.plex.tv/t/4k-hdr-hardware-transcode/765846/36

 

You can try the new kernel with this Plex container lsiodev/plex:amd64-1.25.2.5319-c43dc0277-pkg-c2e7263a-dev-2f08980441f26b55db4d95db8ee42c958882cc36  which is using an older compute runtime which is not broken

18 hours ago, flyize said:

So in theory the recent Plex Pass version has the newest Alder Lake fixes. I haven't tested it, but along with the 5.18 kernel, it *might* work.

Whoops, I stand corrected. Plex may work with the 1.27.2 release.

Is it looking like the latest release of Plex docker + ICR 22.25.23529 will work?

Isn't the ICR already inside the container? I have no idea how this stuff works.

2 hours ago, flyize said:

Isn't the ICR already inside the container? I have no idea how this stuff works.

lol, ditto ;-)

Could an Alder Lake chip with a NVIDIA GPU work? 

Absolutely. The Alder Lake issue is with the iGPU. 

10 hours ago, flyize said:

Absolutely. The Alder Lake issue is with the iGPU. 

Thank you for the reply. I will move forward with my plan to upgrade my current system with an Alder Lake cpu and a NVIDIA graphics card.

1 hour ago, dchamb said:

Thank you for the reply. I will move forward with my plan to upgrade my current system with an Alder Lake cpu and a NVIDIA graphics card.

Wish that was more reasonably priced without hassles.  If you want 4k HEVC transcodes, and no transcode limit... Fairly significant money for capability you already have :(

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