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Silverstone DS380 thread?

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On 6/19/2020 at 2:40 PM, Big Dan T said:

Hi,

 

Just curious has anyone managed to get a 1650 Super graphics card inside the DS380 without having to sacrifice a drive bay ??

 

I'm doing a new Ryzen build with this case and am looking at getting a MSI GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER AERO ITX OC 4GB Graphics Card for Transcoding, but want to triple check it will fit without loosing a bay ?

 

Cheers

 

Dan

While I've never tried this I have had my frustrations with the case. (To the point I gave up and switched to a 381 which has its own frustrations.)  Can I ask what build you're planning that you can fit a Ryzen itx board and 8 hard drives? I always came up with the answer of "there isn't enough slots!"

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Is there a small 6 bay server?

27 minutes ago, pras1011 said:

Is there a small 6 bay server?

Difficult to answer with so few details.

What form factor are looking for ? What size of drive are you planning to use ? Do you have an idea of the motherboard type ? Do you want internal bays or hotswap ?

Small itx build with power supply internally. 6 x 16tb hdd. Horsham is good. I want something as small as the ds380 but smaller.

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57 minutes ago, pras1011 said:

Small itx build with power supply internally. 6 x 16tb hdd. Horsham is good. I want something as small as the ds380 but smaller.

I don't know how it compares specifically to the DS380, but the Fractal Node 304 is a very compact 6 drive case.  I am using it with my backup server.  Some have even installed with Velcro a couple of SSDs outside the disk hangers for a total of 8 drives.

 

Unfortunately, the Lian-Li PC-Q25 is no longer available or I would highly recommend that case.  I am hanging onto the one I have for a future build.

I have a qnap 653a 6 bay and its about 13 litres in size. The lian-li is about 20 litres. I want something that is nearly as small as the qnap. 

The DS380 is 21.6 litres.  The Fractal Node 304 is 19.2 litres, so, 2.4 litres smaller. 

 

I don't know that you will find a 6 HDD Mini-ITX case as small as 13 litres.

 

U-NAS makes some small cases but it appears they have only 4-bay and 8-bay models.

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On 7/13/2020 at 3:22 PM, Tai said:

While I've never tried this I have had my frustrations with the case. (To the point I gave up and switched to a 381 which has its own frustrations.)  Can I ask what build you're planning that you can fit a Ryzen itx board and 8 hard drives? I always came up with the answer of "there isn't enough slots!"

Got it to work in the end. Got a Palit 1650 which fits in the case without the need to loose a drive bay.

 

So with this setup I’ve got 8 hot swappable bays plus 1 m.2 SSD and a second 2.5 SSD.

 

based on a ryzen 3600.

 

took me ages to build :)

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Ok, so a little update from a first time unraider.

 

got two (14tb) drives that I’m preclearing at the mo and will get into the server when they are ready. They are wd element drives. Which are currently running very hot during preclear (around 50c). Had to get a fan on them to bring them back down to a more acceptable 34c.

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I also forgot to mention I 3D printed two skirts to sort out the airflow issue as seen below. A word of warning these skirts need to be filled / cut down a bit to work with Noctua fans as they are slightly too high for the Ds380 drive cage. But otherwise good to go.

 

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I don’t have a 3D printer myself so had to use an online service to print them (£25) for 3 but you only need 2. You can find the design files on google.

 

my only other gripe so far is that with Unraid version 6.8.3 you can’t see the cpu or fan temps on ryzen CPU or boards. Apparently this is fixed in version 6.9 but I’m going to wait for a stable release before upgrading (I’m a nervous neW unraider).

 

ill let you know the temps of my new drives once they are through preclear (about a week) and on the server

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oh and the inspiration for my build came from this video:- 

 

 

 

Except i didn't go quite so high end  on the specs as 1) I couldn't afford it 2) it should run a bit less hot with some of my specs (Hopefully)

 

Also i didn't want to sacrifice a drive bay as shown in the video, so with a very small 1650 you keep all your drive bays usable.

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On 7/19/2020 at 7:51 PM, tucansam said:

You may be the winner of this thread!!!!!

Do I get a sticker ?! :)

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On 7/21/2020 at 3:15 PM, Big Dan T said:

Ok, so a little update from a first time unraider.

 

got two (14tb) drives that I’m preclearing at the mo and will get into the server when they are ready. They are wd element drives. Which are currently running very hot during preclear (around 50c). Had to get a fan on them to bring them back down to a more acceptable 34c.

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I also forgot to mention I 3D printed two skirts to sort out the airflow issue as seen below. A word of warning these skirts need to be filled / cut down a bit to work with Noctua fans as they are slightly too high for the Ds380 drive cage. But otherwise good to go.

 

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I don’t have a 3D printer myself so had to use an online service to print them (£25) for 3 but you only need 2. You can find the design files on google.

 

my only other gripe so far is that with Unraid version 6.8.3 you can’t see the cpu or fan temps on ryzen CPU or boards. Apparently this is fixed in version 6.9 but I’m going to wait for a stable release before upgrading (I’m a nervous neW unraider).

 

ill let you know the temps of my new drives once they are through preclear (about a week) and on the server

 

Have the ducts lowered your HDD temps? And would you mind telling me which online service you used to buy  them please?

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On 5/20/2022 at 11:16 PM, unraid20 said:

 

Have the ducts lowered your HDD temps? And would you mind telling me which online service you used to buy  them please?

Well I've always used them, so I couldn't tell you how much they lowered by temps by. 

 

I cant find the guys i used but I think it was here:- https://3dprintdirect.co.uk/quote/

 

And it cost something like £25-30 ? which is a bit steep for a bit of plastic, but worth it for peace of mind.

 

An FYI, i had to shave a bit off the ducts to get them to fit, not alot, but a bit.

  • 2 years later...

Sorry to revive a dead thread. I only use my truenas nas occasionally and after a scrubbing realised the drives are hitting 68c its down to lack of airflow but more so bad case design.

 

The community has already created a fix with a cardboard mod and others have created flawed 3d printed cooling ducts that have the wrong spacing dont cover the top and bottom of the case.

 

My fix is three tier

  • Upgraded high static pressure fans with thermaltake tough fans which are Noctua NF-A12x25 clones to replace the stock fans from a time when motherboards didnt manage fan speeds very well.
  • 3d printed correctly sized fan ducting so airflow is pushed through the drive cage.
  • 3d printed cover for drive cage so I can use an LSI card.
  • Cutout the intake fan guard to allow for slightly more airflow.

 

Regrets

Buying an LSI card specifically a Fujitsu 9211-8i from ebay it showed up with rusty vias. Instead I wish I'd bought a ASM1166 based card I could have still used the nice mini sas cables and for my occasional use its fine not like I'm running virtual machines or running a business from this system or run multiple days a week.

 

Specs for anyone interested

4x6tb drives

2x8tb drives(not in use)

2x free drive bays

Asus Strix ebay 'for parts or not working' mobo with pins bent back

16gb ram

pentium dual core thing

128gb samsung PM841 boot drive

 

 

UPDATE 29/11/24
I finished modelling, printing and reassembling. No I havent published anything yet. After all the fixes theres a 24 celcius drop to 51 celcius. The thermaltake tough fans are at low RPM's.

 

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On 11/28/2024 at 10:20 PM, crazyfrog said:

Sorry to revive a dead thread. I only use my truenas nas occasionally and after a scrubbing realised the drives are hitting 68c its down to lack of airflow but more so bad case design.

 

The community has already created a fix with a cardboard mod and others have created flawed 3d printed cooling ducts that have the wrong spacing dont cover the top and bottom of the case.

 

My fix is three tier

  • Upgraded high static pressure fans with thermaltake tough fans which are Noctua NF-A12x25 clones to replace the stock fans from a time when motherboards didnt manage fan speeds very well.
  • 3d printed correctly sized fan ducting so airflow is pushed through the drive cage.
  • 3d printed cover for drive cage so I can use an LSI card.
  • Cutout the intake fan guard to allow for slightly more airflow.

 

Regrets

Buying an LSI card specifically a Fujitsu 9211-8i from ebay it showed up with rusty vias. Instead I wish I'd bought a ASM1166 based card I could have still used the nice mini sas cables and for my occasional use its fine not like I'm running virtual machines or running a business from this system or run multiple days a week.

 

Specs for anyone interested

4x6tb drives

2x8tb drives(not in use)

2x free drive bays

Asus Strix ebay 'for parts or not working' mobo with pins bent back

16gb ram

pentium dual core thing

128gb samsung PM841 boot drive

 

 

UPDATE 29/11/24
I finished modelling, printing and reassembling. No I havent published anything yet. After all the fixes theres a 24 celcius drop to 51 celcius. The thermaltake tough fans are at low RPM's.

 

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hello, I have had this case for about 2 years and always had issues with hot hd , I was going to swap to factual north xl but after seeing you 3d print would you share the STL file so I can try this before spending money on a new case 

thankyou

rob

 

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