HellDiverUK Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 £400 for a 10TB drive, which is newly released and first generation Helium for Seagate. £238 for a 8TB drive (Archive v2), which work great in UnRAID and are pretty damned quiet and reliable. With my recent experience of Helium drives from WD, I think they're not really ready for primetime. I bought one 8TB WD Red, it was totally dead (severe head crash), the replacement worked but vibrated badly. Sold it. Bought another, it also vibrated badly. Sold it. Got a great deal on a 8TB MyBook which has a WD80EZZX, and it runs great, no vibration, no noise. Got another MyBook and stripped the drive out of it. Another perfectly running WD80EZZX. Quote Link to comment
GeekVerve Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Got a great deal on a 8TB MyBook which has a WD80EZZX, and it runs great, no vibration, no noise. Got another MyBook and stripped the drive out of it. Another perfectly running WD80EZZX. Do you void the warranty on the drive, when you take it out of the MyBook? Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Got a great deal on a 8TB MyBook which has a WD80EZZX, and it runs great, no vibration, no noise. Got another MyBook and stripped the drive out of it. Another perfectly running WD80EZZX. Do you void the warranty on the drive, when you take it out of the MyBook? Absolutely. The warranty is voided on all externals when you remove the drive from the enclosure. Quote Link to comment
HellDiverUK Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Got a great deal on a 8TB MyBook which has a WD80EZZX, and it runs great, no vibration, no noise. Got another MyBook and stripped the drive out of it. Another perfectly running WD80EZZX. Do you void the warranty on the drive, when you take it out of the MyBook? Yes, but they're cheap enough to take the risk. I ran the drive for a few days before ripping it apart, just to make sure it was OK. I just used WD's extended test facility in their Windows utility that's included on the drive. Almost every drive I've had that's failed has either died in the first few days, or failed well out of warranty, so I'm happy to accept the risk. Quote Link to comment
rxnelson Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Anyone else get this 10TB drive? Newegg has it "down" to $400 today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
Sledgehamma Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I just ordered two a few days ago. Sadly amazon doesn't have a shipping date yet. Will post the preclear results once I got them. Quote Link to comment
c3 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 And over to the next size, 12TB thread Quote Link to comment
dchamb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I just popped a WD Gold 10TB drive in my unRaid system. Going through preclear now. All my other drives are WD and have had great luck with them. Plus I've read that the Seagate 10TB drive is noisy. I figure you can't go wrong with 7200 RPM and 256MB cache. Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, dchamb said: I just popped a WD Gold 10TB drive in my unRaid system. Going through preclear now. All my other drives are WD and have had great luck with them. Plus I've read that the Seagate 10TB drive is noisy. I figure you can't go wrong with 7200 RPM and 256MB cache. Curious about its sequential speed, If you can run the test below and post the graph: Quote Link to comment
dchamb Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Just now, johnnie.black said: Curious about its sequential speed, If you can run the test below and post the graph: I'll let you know after the preclear is done Quote Link to comment
dchamb Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 On 3/29/2017 at 1:23 PM, dchamb said: 1 Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 194MB/s average!! Nice,,, Quote Link to comment
dchamb Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, johnnie.black said: 194MB/s average!! Nice,,, Yeah that's what I thought. Faster than a 6TB 7200rpm WD Red Pro! Quote Link to comment
garycase Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 3 hours ago, dchamb said: Faster than a 6TB 7200rpm WD Red Pro! Of course. Same RPM, higher areal density (1.5TB/platter vs. 1.2TB for the 6TB drives) Another nice improvement is the lower power consumption and subsequently cooler temps that the helium-filled design provides. Quote Link to comment
dchamb Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 22 hours ago, garycase said: Of course. Same RPM, higher areal density (1.5TB/platter vs. 1.2TB for the 6TB drives) Another nice improvement is the lower power consumption and subsequently cooler temps that the helium-filled design provides. Big difference in cooling. My WD Red Pro 6TB runs between 45-50 C and the Gold is at least 10 C under that. Quote Link to comment
garycase Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 1 hour ago, dchamb said: Big difference in cooling. My WD Red Pro 6TB runs between 45-50 C and the Gold is at least 10 C under that. Not surprising => as I noted above, they've significantly reduced the power consumption ... and power draw directly correlates to heat. The helium-filled design also helps. In fact, ALL of WD's new data-center oriented drives are going to be helium filled in the future. Quote Link to comment
CyberSkulls Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 £400 for a 10TB drive, which is newly released and first generation Helium for Seagate. £238 for a 8TB drive (Archive v2), which work great in UnRAID and are pretty damned quiet and reliable. With my recent experience of Helium drives from WD, I think they're not really ready for primetime. I bought one 8TB WD Red, it was totally dead (severe head crash), the replacement worked but vibrated badly. Sold it. Bought another, it also vibrated badly. Sold it. Got a great deal on a 8TB MyBook which has a WD80EZZX, and it runs great, no vibration, no noise. Got another MyBook and stripped the drive out of it. Another perfectly running WD80EZZX. I also just sent back a bunch of 8TB drives for the same vibration issues. And like you I just liberated a WD80EZZX. More vibration than my 2/4TB drives but way less than the Reds I sent back. I wasn't careful when I shucked it so it's a keeper now even with the slight vibration. To me, it's as if WD is sending out horribly unbalanced 8TB drives. I don't care how many platters they have, the vibration you and I both encountered shouldn't have ever left the factory. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
CyberSkulls Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 Big difference in cooling. My WD Red Pro 6TB runs between 45-50 C and the Gold is at least 10 C under that. I really need to stop looking at hard drive temps in my chassis. My helium filled drives run 4-5C warmer than my 2TB and 4TB Reds but have never seen them get warmer than 32C after streaming for hours. They were under 30C but I swapped my fans in my 2U chassis for Arctic 80mm fans. They barely blow enough air to get out of their own way co pared to the San Ace stock fans but my Fractal R4 is now louder than my server so I can live with that Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
TUMS Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Yeah WD Gold 10TB looks like a really nice drive. Either that or HGST HE10. Couldn't really go wrong with either of them... And they are probably both very similar. Edited April 4, 2017 by TUMS Quote Link to comment
HellDiverUK Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) On 02/04/2017 at 9:40 PM, CyberSkulls said: I also just sent back a bunch of 8TB drives for the same vibration issues. And like you I just liberated a WD80EZZX. More vibration than my 2/4TB drives but way less than the Reds I sent back. I wasn't careful when I shucked it so it's a keeper now even with the slight vibration. To me, it's as if WD is sending out horribly unbalanced 8TB drives. I don't care how many platters they have, the vibration you and I both encountered shouldn't have ever left the factory. Mrs HellDiverUK has been complaining recently about the humming coming from the computer room. The EZZX drives 6 months later seem to be making more vibration than they did when new. Our house is a 2-storey wooden frame house, so a humming drive in one room resonates right through the floors and is audible everywhere in the house. I've had to pull all the WD drives and replace them with Seagates. Even the Seagate NAS drive, which is a big heavy 7200rpm unit is quieter than any of the WD drives. The Archive units are basically silent. Edited April 4, 2017 by HellDiverUK Quote Link to comment
CyberSkulls Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Mrs HellDiverUK has been complaining recently about the humming coming from the computer room. The EZZX drives 6 months later seem to be making more vibration than they did when new. Our house is a 2-storey wooden frame house, so a humming drive in one room resonates right through the floors and is audible everywhere in the house. I've had to pull all the WD drives and replace them with Seagates. Even the Seagate NAS drive, which is a big heavy 7200rpm unit is quieter than any of the WD drives. The Archive units are basically silent.My 2TB Reds and even my Blues are basically dead silent. I have a couple 4TB Blues that make a little noise while seeking but zero vibration. Even putting your hand on any of them you question if they are powered on or not. So I'm thinking with the vibration/quality issues WD has with their entire line of 8TB drives, I'll probably try some of the 8TB/10TB Seagate drives. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
HellDiverUK Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 hours ago, CyberSkulls said: My 2TB Reds and even my Blues are basically dead silent. I have a couple 4TB Blues that make a little noise while seeking but zero vibration. Even putting your hand on any of them you question if they are powered on or not. So I'm thinking with the vibration/quality issues WD has with their entire line of 8TB drives, I'll probably try some of the 8TB/10TB Seagate drives. Agreed, WD always were silent, the 3TB and 5TB Reds are totally silent and undetectable vibration. These 8TB drives are a different kettle of fish. However, I have a pair of 1TB Blacks and they're very bad for vibration, and they were from totally different batches (one's about a year older than the other). Quote Link to comment
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