Does UNraid ever go on sale? Like a special  BlackFriday sale or something like that?

 

If they had some kind of sale, I would probably pull the trigger on this.

 

Please let me know

 

Thanks. 

Historically no, same low prices all year 'round.

We've had this conversation before.  If the only criteria is to want to save a few bucks on your choice of operating system when the hardware costs are not insignificant then Unraid may not be the choice for you.

4 hours ago, CHBMB said:

We've had this conversation before.  If the only criteria is to want to save a few bucks on your choice of operating system when the hardware costs are not insignificant then Unraid may not be the choice for you.

Just to add a little punch to @CHBMB point, this is a fellow who kicked Microsoft to the curb in favour of open source Linux operating systems. When he says an OS is worth spending money, he means it.

 

11 hours ago, miogpsrocks said:

If they had some kind of sale, I would probably pull the trigger on this.

It's already way underpriced for what you get. The long time members feel a little insulted when you imply it's overpriced.

 

Agreed, it's underpriced for what you get, I bought two pro and one plus license without even thinking about it, the value is endless. If money is tight there are some free alternatives out there, but they are not as good as unRAID IMO.

Edited May 7, 20179 yr by ashman70

I'm a very happy unRAID customer, having purchased quite a few Pro licenses and a few Plus licenses for different uses.

 

In my years of experience with unRAID, I've not lost any data except by my own silly pressing of the DELETE key when I shouldn't have.

 

I've not had that kind of success with any other RAID solution, free or commercial, hardware or software. To be honest I haven't even had that same reliability with tape backup solutions I have tried, but that's another story.

 

They all have their flaws and best use cases, but for long term reliability unRAID has proven its worth to me more times than I can count. Considering the cost of unRAID licensing from that perspective, it's well worth it. 

 

I've thrown out approximately 170 dead hard drives in the years I've been using unRAID.  You can do the arithmetic from there. unRAID is still solid, while the drives are just fodder for the melting pot.

IMHO the OP never said or implied that unRaid is overpriced or not worth the cost. He/she was simply asking if there's ever a sale which is a perfectly valid question to ask.

I think the implication is there, when the OP said:

 

"If they had some kind of sale, I would probably pull the trigger on this"

 

The implication being at regular price its not worth it. Had they left out this sentence, I would agree with you, its a perfectly valid question, however with this sentence it can be seen otherwise.

Back when version 6 was still in beta LT was selling 2 copies of Pro license for $150 or something like that.... I don't remember the exact final price but it was a good deal.   I snatched it up. Maybe someday they will do something similar...Maybe not though.

One key thing that really adds to the value is the free upgrades => while it's certainly not guaranteed for the future, it's true that UnRAID has NEVER charged for a version upgrade ... even as the feature set has grown significantly.

 

I almost feel bad when someone asks this question as the same unRAID users bust out their pitchforks bringing up the cost of their hardware or free upgrades. I'm not singling anyone out by any means, but there is no reason for any of that. The cost of hardware has nothing to do with the cost of the OS, absolutely none.

The OP asked a simple question and the simple answer is no, unRAID doesn't really go on sale. If you see enough value in purchasing it, thats great and I personally feel that after (6) Pro licenses, I'm still happy with my purchase and the purchase price for that matter. But that doesn't mean everyone does or that everyone will.

Is it worth the purchase price? That's completely subjective and based on each of our own unique use cases. Where a lot of you see extreme value in the addition of Docker support or VM's I see no value whatsoever. Where others might see little value as a pure storage OS, I see extreme amounts of value.


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4 hours ago, bman said:

I'm a very happy unRAID customer, having purchased quite a few Pro licenses and a few Plus licenses for different uses.

 

In my years of experience with unRAID, I've not lost any data except by my own silly pressing of the DELETE key when I shouldn't have.

 

I've not had that kind of success with any other RAID solution, free or commercial, hardware or software. To be honest I haven't even had that same reliability with tape backup solutions I have tried, but that's another story.

 

They all have their flaws and best use cases, but for long term reliability unRAID has proven its worth to me more times than I can count. Considering the cost of unRAID licensing from that perspective, it's well worth it. 

 

I've thrown out approximately 170 dead hard drives in the years I've been using unRAID.  You can do the arithmetic from there. unRAID is still solid, while the drives are just fodder for the melting pot.

 

I currently have like 10+ readynas systems all with 4 drives. I am stick of losing 1 out of 4 drives on all my systems. (75%)So I have like 10+ drives lost to parity. UNRAID you can have like 1 drive dedicated and use the rest of the space. This is what attracted me to it.  Why did you lose your data with unraid even with a DELETE key? My readynas can bet setup with a trash/recycle folder in which deleted items are placed in this folder and I think will delete automatically after 15 days. My buffalo Terastation has the same thing( except you have to manually delete).

 

Does Unraid have a trash folder for accidental delete? By the way, My father  almost lost my entire company to tape drive because the I.T. guy( who knew nothing about computers and was hired for diversity reasons) decided to put our entire company in RAID 0 to the objection of programmers who worked under him who said it was going to cause massive data loss.  The VP decided to back the guy wanted raid 0 since he was suppose to be the manager. He then lied about the entire thing to my father saying " these things just happen, you can't plan for them" 

 

Long story short, the RAID 0 Failed, the entire array was lost and the tape drive did not back up anything. There was an error in which the machine said backup was complete but it was not.  Also,  you don't do wrong decision when you know they are wrong even if they are coming from your I.T manager and the lower ranked employees are telling you the right information. After we found out, we fired the I.T manager and put the guy who warned us about the RAID 0 in charge. 

 

In any event, why 170 drives dead? Is the Unraid doing something to chew up those drives? I maybe had 6 drive fail over the  past few years. 

 

Thanks. 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 7, 20179 yr by miogpsrocks

I hope I don't come across as an a-hole because I am certainly not trying to bash anyone. Asking if unRAID ever goes on sale is absolutely a legit question. If the OP didn't mean to imply it's not worth the sticker price, fine, no worries. If a bunch of us want to point out why we feel its value is above and beyond the sticker price, I think that's ok too. No hard feelings and I apologize if I insulted or offended anyone.

22 minutes ago, CyberSkulls said:

I almost feel bad when someone asks this question as the same unRAID users bust out their pitchforks bringing up the cost of their hardware or free upgrades. I'm not singling anyone out by any means, but there is no reason for any of that. The cost of hardware has nothing to do with the cost of the OS, absolutely none.

The OP asked a simple question and the simple answer is no, unRAID doesn't really go on sale. If you see enough value in purchasing it, thats great and I personally feel that after (6) Pro licenses, I'm still happy with my purchase and the purchase price for that matter. But that doesn't mean everyone does or that everyone will.

Is it worth the purchase price? That's completely subjective and based on each of our own unique use cases. Where a lot of you see extreme value in the addition of Docker support or VM's I see no value whatsoever. Where others might see little value as a pure storage OS, I see extreme amounts of value.


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Thank you so much! 

 

I really appreciate that and could not have said it any better. 

 

A simple " No" answer would have been fine and I have already started purchasing the equipment for the Unraid server. 

 

My only question was if I should buy it now or wait until possible a mother day's sale or something like that. 

 

Did not expect to get attacked over it and be told that I'm not good enough to use the software. It's like going to car lot and asking if there is going to be an upcoming sales event and being told that you are not a real man and a loser because you dared to ask about a upcoming sales event. 

 

I was a little shocked to see those responses. 

 

Thank you for being the voice of reason. 

Lets straighten a few things out, nobody in this thread has attacked you, nobody has told you that you're not good enough to use the software.  If they have then please point out where.

 

I'm a fan of free software, I use free software exclusively on my laptop and desktop machines.  Unraid isn't free software but imho, it's worth the price.  The point I was trying to make is the hardware costs when setting up a server are not insignificant, if the OS cost is a real factor and the presence of a sale is what's needed to justify the cost to you personally, then it might be best to look elsewhere.  Snapraid on something like Ubuntu for instance.   Still can have dual parity, (not real time though) can still utilise docker and KVM, just not such a pretty webui.  I'm pretty comfortable on the command line, but to me, the cost of Unraid is worth the webui, I have friends who have decided that Unraid isn't for them (any longer)

 

Perhaps the fact so many Unraid users, the same ones the "voice of reason" is referring to, post is because we feel quite pasionate about the OS and the value it offers, maybe that should be a little more reasssuring that there are so many seasoned veterans singing it's praises so many years down the line.

Edited May 7, 20179 yr by CHBMB

Oh and @jonathanm Yes I have eradicated Windows from my life, and I now use "Free" operating systems, however, I'd like to point out that all the free systems I use, I have donated to each one of them.  It's free as in speech not as in beer. 

13 hours ago, CHBMB said:

We've had this conversation before.  If the only criteria is to want to save a few bucks on your choice of operating system when the hardware costs are not insignificant then Unraid may not be the choice for you.

 

WOW, Unraid may not be for me? I already started buying the equipment to setup my server, will I have to return it? I am not enough of a man for the unraid? 

 

Reminds me of this " Honey and Vinegar"  technique 

 

 

ARE YOU GOING TO BUY THIS UNRAID!!!!!!!! ARE YOU GOING TO BUY THIS UNRAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

 

Oh and [mention=623]jonathanm[/mention] Yes I have eradicated Windows from my life, and I now use "Free" operating systems, however, I'd like to point out that all the free systems I use, I have donated to each one of them.  It's free as in speech not as in beer. [emoji3]

The only windows machine I have left is my gaming rig. I don't play much BF4 anymore but when I do, I wish it could be *nix based. So till that time comes I have to keep one of those "you need some updates, let me reboot at the worst possible time" boxes around.

So I kinda envy your windows free environment. Maybe someday..


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You're being melodramatic.

Your hardware is os agnostic. You could run a dozen different operating systems to achieve a similar goal which is the point I was trying to make. I even pointed at one that two members of linuxserver use themselves. I like Unraid but there are alternatives that are free that will run on your hardware.

To be honest you're making yourself look a bit foolish now.

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The only windows machine I have left is my gaming rig. I don't play much BF4 anymore but when I do, I wish it could be *nix based. So till that time comes I have to keep one of those "you need some updates, let me reboot at the worst possible time" boxes around.

So I kinda envy your windows free environment. Maybe someday..


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Yeah, it's been quite a liberating experience all in all. I did a lot of distro hopping to start with to find what worked for me, and that's been the real beauty of it. And rebooting for an upgrade, can't even remember what that is....

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5 minutes ago, CHBMB said:

You're being melodramatic.

Your hardware is os agnostic. You could run a dozen different operating systems to achieve a similar goal which is the point I was trying to make. I even pointed at one that two members of linuxserver use themselves. I like Unraid but there are alternatives that are free that will run on your hardware.

To be honest you're making yourself look a bit foolish now.

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Just ask if they run sales from time to time and a simple " No" answer would have been fine.   

 

Its like you go to a car dealer  and told that you may be more at home buying a car from the junkyard because these cars are for the sophisticated and discriminating buyer(which you are obviously not) . That is the vibe I get from your original reply. 

 

Like I said, I already started purchasing hardware like a 12-bay 5.25 bay  tower computer, motherboard, etc..  I already have purchased many readynas systems which are not cheap either. 

If you'd asked the simple question, you may have got a simple answer.

 

What you actually said was "IF they had a sale, I'd PROBABLY pull the trigger on this."

 

Implication being, if they didn't I may not.

 

I used to have a 12 bay 5.25 system and I ran at least 4 different operating systems as a home server on the same hardware, so the purchase of hardware has got nothing to do with it.

 

And the cost of the operating system hasn't got anything to do with it's quality, you're talking to someone who runs free operating systems for heavens sake. I choose to donate, but nobody forces me too, the cost of an operating system is not equal the quality, Windows being the obvious example.

 

Now just calm down and relax for crying out loud, like I said before, you're being melodramatic and overly sensitive.

 

If I choose to "attack" you as you put it, then it'd be a lot more direct that that. But I haven't and won't.

 

You're trying to make out I was being an asshole when I wasn't. Take a look at my posts, I'm a bloody helpful chap if anything, so calm down and try and to get to know some of the community on a slightly better note than you're currently doing.

 

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15 hours ago, miogpsrocks said:

 

I currently have like 10+ readynas systems all with 4 drives. I am stick of losing 1 out of 4 drives on all my systems. (75%)So I have like 10+ drives lost to parity. UNRAID you can have like 1 drive dedicated and use the rest of the space. This is what attracted me to it.  Why did you lose your data with unraid even with a DELETE key? My readynas can bet setup with a trash/recycle folder in which deleted items are placed in this folder and I think will delete automatically after 15 days. My buffalo Terastation has the same thing( except you have to manually delete).

 

Does Unraid have a trash folder for accidental delete? By the way, My father  almost lost my entire company to tape drive because the I.T. guy( who ...

In any event, why 170 drives dead? Is the Unraid doing something to chew up those drives? I maybe had 6 drive fail over the  past few years. 

 

 

No recycle bin by default but there is now a plugin to add this feature.  I'm a bit more of and old school user from a time when recycle bins did not exist. I get the purpose, and have found it useful a couple times in the past, but a couple out of hundreds of thousands... I don't trouble myself over these things!

 

My point is unRAID has never been the cause of any data loss I have suffered, which is a primary reason I trust it so much even without using ECC RAM and dual parity.  I keep backups of anything I care about, and the rest is transient anyway.

 

170 drives have failed due to old age, poor quality, etc over the years that I have been using unRAID. It's not from the OS, it's just natural attrition. I have lots of servers I deal with between work and home, and over lots of years, it means lots of failures - many more after the past flooding in Thailand when a slew of drives being sold were somewhat questionable, and proved to be so both before and after their warranties were up.  Things have been great the past few years, which makes me happy as I can focus on other tasks!

 

Totally with you on all the readyNAS devices chewing up all those parity drives.  It's one of the reasons I decided to go with unRAID almost a decade ago. I compared the costs of buying versus building, and during the process my friend introduced me to unRAID. After I saw the benefits and figured out how to get lots of hard drives in a chassis, I haven't looked back. It's the value proposition for large amounts of storage.

 

I keep getting poked by a colleague who runs FreeNAS and he always says I should check out all the new features.  But it's fundamentally different, and I can't even entertain it because it would cost me more.

 

I feel for your IT woes on the corporate side. There are lots of folks who claim they know things about data integrity and safety but have the unfortunate characteristic of not learning from their mistakes and correcting them before it's too late.

 

Management at every level has a role to play in this too, though. When the fit hits the shan management always wants to know who to fire, but plainly that's reactionary.   I think prudent managers must take a bit of time to verify things for themselves, even if only once per quarter or so. Problems (human or otherwise) are better avoided/corrected than left until you need a new fan.

 

On 5/7/2017 at 9:49 PM, CHBMB said:

If you'd asked the simple question, you may have got a simple answer.

 

What you actually said was "IF they had a sale, I'd PROBABLY pull the trigger on this."

 

Implication being, if they didn't I may not.

 

I used to have a 12 bay 5.25 system and I ran at least 4 different operating systems as a home server on the same hardware, so the purchase of hardware has got nothing to do with it.

 

And the cost of the operating system hasn't got anything to do with it's quality, you're talking to someone who runs free operating systems for heavens sake. I choose to donate, but nobody forces me too, the cost of an operating system is not equal the quality, Windows being the obvious example.

 

Now just calm down and relax for crying out loud, like I said before, you're being melodramatic and overly sensitive.

 

If I choose to "attack" you as you put it, then it'd be a lot more direct that that. But I haven't and won't.

 

You're trying to make out I was being an asshole when I wasn't. Take a look at my posts, I'm a bloody helpful chap if anything, so calm down and try and to get to know some of the community on a slightly better note than you're currently doing.

 

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Are you from England?

 

Where i'm from, if you are ready to " pull the trigger" on something. It means you are serious about it and maybe like 99% of the way there but just looking for the right time to jump in.

 

 It's not just me, other members posted their surprise from the reaction over asking a simple question. 

 

Maybe " ready to pull the trigger' has a different meaning in your area? 

 

In any event, a No would have answered would have been perfectly fine. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wasn't going to post in this thread as I have nothing to meaningfully contribute. But then I decided to pull the trigger just for fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I regret that decision now.