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  1. You don't need an hba with that board if the drives are SATAunless I'm missing something I'm a quick glance at the specs. I thought there was a version without onboard 10gbe unless you plan to use all the ports... But a 4 port SFP+ and DAC to the switch would get my pick over Ethernet... not at all clear why you want a vm for docker rather than just running them direct in unraid. Not sure what your plans are with truenas here either though. For video editing I'm not sure a spinning array will get you the performance you want, but that can certainly be built up for it. I can't quite saturate 10gb network with a raid 10 SATA SSD cache pool. Can with nvme. Hardware seems way overkill at the moment. Certainly capable. Only use two of the containers you mention myself (HA, Jellyfin... And I'm streaming 4k and no compression or anything and no video card either) on a much more simple system... X570d4u, 5600x, 32GB ram, 5x16gb hgst, 4x2gb SATA SSD, 1x1gb nvme, x710-DA2... If I'm testing in a Windows VM I can only do one at a time, but that's plenty.
  2. No, I don't think tab bar is a thing on Android. I don't miss it, and often wish I had the tile/tablet view on my desktop when I have a ton of open tabs. For most things I just swipe on the address bar to move between tabs - I keep news and forums open for catching up over breakfast, etc. so the order doesn't change and it's just an easy run through them. For other stuff it's never bothered me to swap views to get to the open tab I want (or to a new one). I'm curious what you find unusable in this process.
  3. Firefox. I use pretty much all the browsers in the course of my work, as I build content intended for browsers... but my go-to is Firefox and has been since it was called Phoenix. It's even my browser of choice on my (android) phones/tablets. It's not spyware, it has an amazing ecosystem of extensions, it pioneered so very many things we take for granted today, it's got a great password manager built in... I love being able to sync tabs across devices or do a complete rebuild of a machine without losing passwords, tabs, even history and such (like when my work laptop decides it's a balloon! and suddenly I have a new one and no access to the old one). It still has some amazing unique tricks (event markers viewing the DOM in debug mode). And, of course, it's not being foisted on us nor is it reporting home (unless you opt in to some metrics...) I have never had issues with Unraid and Firefox, across a bunch of different systems. Maybe other bits of the system matter? W11, AMD CPU and GPU for the most common uses, but I do have a W10/intel ultrabook (10yrs old now and struggling)... First thing I recommend is double checking extensions when something goes wonky.
  4. Shelly makes plug-in switches with power consumption tracking (probably other options, I didn't dig in); I have the US variant (stock firmware, wifi connected) as well as Sonoff S31 (esphome flashed) and both are monitored in HomeAssistant tracking usage (automation integration also available of course). The Shelly gives you a direct interface where you can view live usage data and I believe can be flashed with alternatives, I just haven't bothered as you don't need a proprietary app to use them as-is. Also, worth a read if you haven't already found it. I don't know about any direct integrations or other options but you could certainly spin up a HomeAssistant docker for more advanced monitoring if nothing else.
  5. I'm curious why outfitting the setup with the ports it needs is a waste? An unused slot is more of a waste than using it so you have what you need. You can get ASM1166 pcie cards too, and that's going to be the most sensible immediate solution (budget, function, and power consumption). No sense in doubling the number of adapters. If in the future your requirements change, re-evaluate.
  6. Standard cat6 should be a reasonable balance between speed capability/shielding and cable flexibility. It still does not want to do hard 90 degree bends (over a door frame, or around an inside corner under baseboard) but you can get close; I'd also choose the baseboard approach. You just may get noise and lose speed if you DO introduce a hard bend. Plenum grade is there for when heat released VOCs can get into the air supply. Not sure what kind of construction you're dealing with so it's hard to say what you'll have the best luck with. Probably easier to dig in a little more yourself; I've found this series to be useful.
  7. A random problem with my HomeAssistant docker forcing me to jump through hoops led to discovery that (at the moment) the USB device I have to read my electric meter and track usage and current price (Rainforest EMU-2) was causing crashes to HA. So, I got rid of that integration for now... Original write-up: result was 5-6w improvement, netting me a mean consumption under idle (but with HA active) around 43W, with the current lowest momentary read at 38W. I'm now not sure I want to go back.
  8. Yup. the x470 or b450 variants are a bit less but... trade-offs, features... it's not going to get you the best efficiency either (relative to what's possible with Intel).
  9. You're going to need plenum grade (assuming "hot pipe" is carrying air you breathe), cat6 at a minimum... I have a similar length run and it's solid at 10gb (iperf verified). You're not going to find flat cable which meets spec. 6e is going to be more appropriate for 10g and more future-proof but may not work so well in the tight spots. Be attentive to bend radius still if you want 10gbe.
  10. ASRock Rack has a few options good in mATX and a few different chipsets. I'm using an X570d4u with a 5600x - no issues, though a little obscure where some settings are in the bios when I was using an HBA - only time I've had to sort out how to attach a monitor was when the bios upgrade left things wonky and I had to go find the settings to fix this, otherwise everything has worked perfectly using IPMI. I've ditched that and just use the onboard SATA plus an m.2 > 6 SATA adapter. x710 dual SFP+ card in the mix too, 5 SSD and 5 Ultrastar 16tb, 1 m.2 nvme. Idles around 45w with a usb device attached tracking my electricity usage at the meter (e.g. power company reading) and HomeAssistant docker running (this is worth a few W).
  11. First - a word of warning: I recently lost two drives to a failing power supply - not really sure what failed, but the smell indicated something burned up. I was lucky in that they were only 500GB drives I was using to test some configuration options on a new build... It would work fine with just a single spinning drive (was fine with multiple SSD) so I can only suspect startup surge was too much. Granted, this was an older Corsair power supply so may not have had protection circuitry built in at the quality the Seasonic will; hopefully you don't encounter anything like this. Troubleshooting needs to be step by step. First, verify that all 5 of the new drives spin up as the only drive plugged in; then as sets. Can you get all 5 together? And those 5 plus another 5? This is just to confirm there isn't a bum drive in the mix. Does it matter where the 10 drives are plugged in? First thing is to verify that all the ports on the power supply function; can you redistribute the 10 drives across 3 vs the two you have now (if I'm reading your configuration right)? Can you add any additional drives with the distribution changed? If you can't change where the drives are plugged in, you probably have a faulty power supply. If, however, they work without regard to where they're plugged in but it starts failing to work after 11 or 12 or whatever, you're probably exceeding the output capability as the drives spin up. I would still experiment a bit to see if the number which will spin up changes depending on which drives are in use - again verifying there isn't an anomalous drive in the mix. Unfortunately, I can't find any specs on this for these HDDs, but do see a datasheet for a different variant Exos puts it at 32W startup (2.6A). That's still likely within the capabilities of this power supply+system. The fact it sometimes works / doesn't work with even 11 drives makes me think something else is happening. If you have hot-swap capabilities or are brave, you could also try adding drives one at a time after the system is powered up. That will reduce the initial startup surge. I can't recommend this w/o hot-swap bays unless you're confident in what you are doing and/or are willing to lose hardware. It may be worth reaching out to Seasonic regardless.
  12. Cheapest ConnectX-4 I see right now is what I paid for the x710 card. May just be luck of timing.
  13. I believe it has been noted elsewhere that the intel x710 is the one to get; I snagged a dual-port x710 SFP+ for only a tiny bit more than I paid for my dual port ConnectX-3 - both ports DAC > Unifi Aggregation. On my AMD system it had no real change in power efficiency (idle mean is ~48-49W with lowest I've seen ~43W) but I was curious, it was cheap enough, so I tried it out. Now I have this ConnectX-3 to use... Also, just in case you have cash burning a hole in your pocket, the Unifi "Hi-Capacity Aggregation" has 4 25G SFP28 ports (and 28 10G SFP+)... a few other ethernet switches also have the SFP28 for uplink etc. All beyond my price range. My 8 port SFP+ switch is fully stuffed though... 10Gb from my desktops and I had to start chasing higher performance on the Unraid server for certain things. Backup server is 10G too.
  14. Had a moment of boredom the other day and decided to swap the M.2 NVME drive and SATA adapters in my build... the NVME drive is where docker and such live including Home Assistant so it never gets to "spin down" state; SATA drives on the adapter is cache and file-share requiring good read/write performance. I'd had the drive in the slot on CPU lanes and moved it to chipset. On average it seems to have changed nothing, perhaps half a watt higher mean consumption, but I have now seen overnight lows reach about 1W lower than previous on just a couple rare occasions. Nothing conclusive. Chipset temps seem slightly higher so my guess at the moment is it's leading to higher fan speeds; the new lows may be tied to the temperature outside (and therefore inside overnight) reaching particularly chilly levels (-10°F/-23°C). I'll probably go swap 'em back today to see if fan speeds change (temps are going to be the same for the next couple days). I also tried disabling the on-board LAN ports and... there doesn't seem to be a setting to do that anywhere. I can probably still save a bit leaving them unused, we'll see. I was left frustrated on this particular chase so gave it up for now. Not sure it's worth it.
  15. APs are 3.44, 4.23, 4.24, 4.56 watts as measured at the PoE port, within another ~4.03W which comes online evenings only, and one which usually runs ~8W but is only on when I need wifi in the back yard (garage/garage top deck really; nice days I like to work up there). They're tuned to be rather quiet and give me good performance in the city on 25x125 foot lots and most consumers just set to max power because they don't know any better. Even still, there are a couple IoT devices with just bad enough signal I can't do things like synchronize lights on different circuits... Switches, I'm at 8/8 in a 10Gb SFP+ switch and 22 1Gbe with attached devices - though there are 3 PoE powered 1+4 switches I could add to timed downtime and shave another 4-5W overnight - that's worth doing and easy enough. CCTV HDD runs >50C so I'm hesitant to throw an SSD in there, especially because I'd want a minimum 8GB and that's $$$$. Some day - would be nice just for the seek performance. No 2.5g switches. Gateway router/network controller/firewall I might be able to find more efficient alternatives, maybe not. I'm not sure. I'll get around to chasing power consumption on some of the pieces but it's near impossible to find reviews that include power consumption... and that varies by use anyway. Thanks for the thoughts and data points on network hardware.
  16. Thought I'd post a quick summary of my journey till now. I realized a while back that on a temperate low energy day (no heating or cooling, no dishwasher, no laundry) my network, security cameras, and unraid setup could push to a bit over 6kWh/day during parity check and an oversized percentage of my total daily consumption. That's now ~5.2kWh, with normal usage around 4.3kWh; not all Unraid tuning to get there (scheduling when certain APs are powered on also helped). Build as it stands: ASRock Rack X570D4U AMD 5600x 32GB ECC 3200 DDR4 (single stick) 5 WD/Ultrastar HC550 16TB storage array (2x parity) 5x SATA SSD: Raid 0+1 cache array of 2 WD Red 2TB, 2 Crucial MX500 2TB, and a Samsung 840EVO 500GB media (music) cache 1x WD Red SN700 M.2 nvme 1TB (docker containers and VMs) Intel x710 dual port SFP+ 550W be quiet! Dark Power Pro Platinum ASM1166 m.2 > 6 SATA adapter Attached USB peripheral: Rainforest EMU-2, Cyberpower UPS VM usage is on demand and infrequent, most of the time VM support is disabled entirely. When I started I had an HBA - swapping in the 1166 was roughly 12W drop, though at the time I only had NUT for monitoring power usage. Around that time I also had a few other things in flight prompting additional changes - a big one was needing to move my core data files to a network share as I have two separate systems now from which I might be working. This prompted the move from a single SSD pair to the Raid 0+1 array; this now serves both as a write cache for the main array as well as a dedicated file share for 10Gb networked systems... I can't saturate the network, but get close. It only added ~10% throughput for full system image backups. Heat was becoming an issue, so I jumped from an old decently cooled desktop tower to a Rosewill RSV-L4500U, customized to run 3x140mm fans behind the drive cages in addition to the usual 3x120mm at the front of the cages, 2x80mm rear, 2x120mm cpu, 1x40mm chipset. SSD temps dropped ~14C during sustained write (was hitting 50C, now the WD Reds peak at 36C) and still only about 30% on the fan speeds. Chipset fan is an add-on but keeps overall temps down a decent amount - net is lower consumption than running the case fans to keep things cool enough. BIOS settings have been run through multiple times, disabling the serial port etc, enabling power optimizations explicitly (vs auto), and CPU tuning. At this point I added a Shelly Plug Plus (US) in front of just the server to have more fine-grained consumption detail. I also have a Mellanox Connect-x 3 dual port SFP+ and tried both it and the Intel x710; probably a wash in my system, the x710 may possibly be 2W improvement but probably only half a watt; As I was testing this I discovered one of my fans was not spinning and I had quite a few troubles with the motherboard fan settings (they kept misbehaving when I'd switch cards and reboot). My best Mellanox low power reading was about half a watt higher than my best x710 low power reading. I ran out of energy to keep swapping and testing. Fans play an observable role in power consumption - I've opted to run a bit more here for overall system longevity (but also lets me run lower fan speeds which seems to net out better anyway). Lots of stuff defaults to "bad" when running powertop; testing through and getting it all set to "good" results in only about 1W difference. 92% C2 either way. Idle is now 48-49W mean (43.x the lowest, 53.x typical highest I see, but it nets out to 49) with drives spun down (except the m.2), and I can shave another 4W or so stopping HomeAssistant (container not VM) - there has to be a bit more in the noise to shave off with the logging I have going to InfluxDB and the bits to wire up the logging, but stopping all the services didn't result in an observable change. The EMU-2 doesn't show an observable difference either. I haven't tried disabling the onboard i210 network ports as I use them (bonded for redundancy on my IoT network) - I could just run this instead as a vlan on one of the 10g ports so I may try that along the way. I also have a backup server I built recently; an older consumer board with I believe 6th gen Intel i3, 2 Seagate Ironwolf pro 16TB, an m.2 WD Blue SATA 1TB, 2 80mm fans, 16gb ram (2 sticks), dual port Intel x540 10gbe card, 400w Seasonic platinum fanless PSU. It idles around 36W but is powered off most of the time. Complexity running a long DAC cable meant rj45 here (if it were on all the time I may have dealt with the effort), but I also wanted the 10Gb network - makes drive speed the limiting factor on backup operations, and less time powered on is lower power consumption overall (it's about half the time for an equivalent rsync vs 1gbe). 0.1W powered off (WoL trigger from the main server for those backups). It's tuned with everything disabled I can have disabled, powertop all green... 46% c7 is the best I've seen. Not curious enough yet to see how much that x540 is hurting, or the m.2 SATA (I had it sitting on a shelf). For those counting, I estimate my security cameras and related bits (including a hard drive spun up 100% of the time) is about 50W, and the cable modem, gateway, switches, and APs account for another 50W. I admit I'm curious whether/how much I could shave more off jumping to Intel, but can't justify the cost. The boards with the known really low numbers won't work for me as they all seem to be ITX with insufficient ports. I'd prefer ECC, so ASRock Rack W480D4u + Xeon could work. I'm really not sure that'd do much better, if at all. I know the power supply is also hurting me a little, but availability challenges vs cost and all that... given the backup server main board is already down an SATA port (nonfunctional) it may decide I have to put $ into parts sooner than later at which point I may well rotate the current setup over to the backup server and give Intel bits a try just for fun. More $ than needed just to have a backup system around.... I am curious if anyone else chasing efficiency has specific experience with hardware that includes ECC, ability to get at least 12 SATA ports (and I'd prefer 14 to give me a bit of wiggle room, but that's 6-8 onboard + a spot for an add on card), support for at least one m.2 NVME, and an x8 slot for the SFP+... though the RAID 0+1 is still a bit of a bottleneck so that may have to change to m.2 or u.2 meaning I'll need at least another x8... Thanks to everyone that has contributed so far - quite an interesting read.
  17. I feel like it's worth reiterating the caution about re-using power supplies. I was doing some testing/prep for a backup server build with an old PSU which came out of a functioning system - somehow it completely toasted two hard-drives on first boot (and really glad I was using old drives I had around not new 16TB+ drives... bummed it was the 500gb not the 250gb but...) - subsequent more careful testing showed the PSU wasn't delivering adequate current to spin up multiple drives (I could get 3 ssd to show up but not even 2 spinners). Second, read the blog on power efficient builds and tuning thread. Lots of good info including example builds if you want to really hit a nice efficient build. PSU matters here too. Picking the right Intel parts may let you get to lower power consumption numbers. I can't justify the cost to myself at the moment, but would consider the ASRock Rack W480D4U in place of my current board - it has a mix of available slots/features to meet my use case (8 onboard SATA included... and it happens to be mATX so might work for you). I can't say how it does on power efficiency, but the chipset is reported capable of quite low power consumption builds. My backup server doesn't have IPMI and I really wish it did (remote management > schlepping a keyboard and monitor around).
  18. I imagine this is a bit of a long way around but... I'm pretty sure this could be done using Logitech Media Server (already available for Unraid) and a separate docker for the player - I see one for SqueezeLite already out there, though this is not a common use case (far more common are rPi based playback setups) Certainly the media server remains my favorite (long before Logitech bought and destroyed the product line) - superior to anything else on the market in my opinion. There are plugins for all sorts of capabilities so may also get some extra points.
  19. Initial boot after the update (I did read the release notes and went through the steps as outlined) and everything looked OK in terminal, but nothing actually started up - unable to reach the Unraid UI. So I logged in at the cmd and rebooted. System took me to bios, unable to detect bootable media at all. Fortunately, a power-down > power-up and it booted clean, upgrade complete and everything seeming to be functional as expected.
  20. Upgrade went smoothly. Boot took just over 7 minutes, hanging with the last output being Samba stuff for almost 5 minutes. Same bug as 6.11.2 where I had to tick "show password" to get the "Start" button enabled for the array (password filled via password manager, not typing or copy/paste)
  21. Updated from 6.11.1 with a couple bumps along the road boot seemed to hang with the last statement being: Starting Samba - I'm not sure this is the actual process that is stuck after ~5min it finally came up to login with two error lines: error: failed to connect to hypervisor error: Operation not supported: Cannot use direct socket mode if no URI is set Once into the UI, it took some shenanigans to be able to start the array Upon entering the array password, the "Start array" button remained disabled Removing focus from the array password field did not help - tried changing from passphrase to key and back, no luck also ticking "show password" DID eventually enable the "Start array" button (and clicking started the array successfully) Once the array was running, everything else started up normally; 1 VM (HomeAssistant) and a handful of docker images. Nothing jumped out at me in system log (other than some errors about network unreachable trying to log...)
  22. I haven't tried to change the interface as I haven't found a good reason to do so - I use the onboard dual 1GbE as a bonded interface with one /24, and the 10Gb is eth2 on a different /24. Most operations are bandwidth limited by WAN connection speed and can not make use of the 10Gb speeds, and the bonded 1GbE is great here; everything that can do 10Gb is on that same /24 and through the same switch, so in my setup this works perfectly.
  23. I'm running a mellanox connectx-3 - not sure if you're looking for SFP+ or not, but it's been rock solid and can't beat the price off ebay for 10Gb. edit: I now read GbE so i guess that may mean ethernet/rj45 but I'll leave this up in case it's helpful to someone.
  24. This is not on the internet (not even any ports opened up at the moment). It is able to reach the internet, of course. And no, I do not mean IPs; historic devices (e.g. not actively connected) I can only see the associated MAC - however, when I've seen unexpected devices they're mirrored IPs (assumption is docker images using HOST or BRIDGE - I'm not sure why they even show up yet, but that could be related if this was a broadcast storm caused by the way I have Unraid+services configured) Also, thanks. I thought I fixed use of the array for appdata but evidently not. Where do you see that? Definitely still working to get this optimized. edit: looks like binhex-krusader, which I haven't even ended up using so I'll just remove that for now - I guess I prefer cmd for stuff where tutorials say to use krusader. it also looks like mover did not work night before last (nor last night but that's no surprise) - a couple backups still on the cache which should have been moved to the array. That potentially puts this on the rc5 update as far as timing.
  25. Shortly after adding a new share last night I discovered that my Unraid server had become completely unreachable on any interface (note, I may have made a mistake trying to connect to the IPMI port so possibly that was still up; it did not show connected in my network overview though. It was late and I was grumpy - gave up). There were a number of unnamed MAC addresses which had evidently been connected over the previous 24hrs including one which was all zeros; very weird. This morning I hauled a monitor and keyboard over and was able to login. Nothing obviously amiss, but upon running ifconfig there was no response and I could not exit either (ctrl-c non-responsive); hard hang. Attempting a controlled shutdown timed out (twice), and the subsequent forced shutdown never happened either. I had to power-cycle the machine. Everything started up normally. I did not have syslog enabled, but I do now. Attached are anonymized diagnostics - I am not yet familiar with troubleshooting issues like this, but hoping something was captured. gondolin-diagnostics-20220429-1253.zip

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