20TB Seagate Ironwolf Pro

[Jeffrey Teague]

Seagate IronWolf Pro 20TB NAS Internal Hard Drive HDD – CMR 3.5 Inch SATA 6Gb/s 7200 RPM 256MB Cache for RAID Network Attached Storage, Rescue Services (ST20000NEZ00)

 

I am having issue with unraid seeing the drive. I have tried more then one in the array.

It doesnt show in the dropdown list as being an option.

I am using Unraid 6.10.3 Stable.

 

Does unraid support this drive?

What are some troubleshooting steps I can try to get this working?

Edited September 17, 2022 by Jeffrey Teague

[JorgeB]

Please post the diagnostics. 

[ChatNoir]

3 hours ago, Jeffrey Teague said:

Does unraid support this drive?

There is no 'support' for specific drives. It should just work.

 

How is the drive connected ?

 

Is it possible that it is disabled by the 3.3V pin ?

[Lolight]

3 hours ago, ChatNoir said:

Is it possible that it is disabled by the 3.3V pin ?

Only the case with Western Digital white label drives

[Jeffrey Teague]

19 hours ago, JorgeB said:

Please post the diagnostics. 

attached

18 hours ago, ChatNoir said:

There is no 'support' for specific drives. It should just work.

 

How is the drive connected ?

 

Is it possible that it is disabled by the 3.3V pin ?

Drive are connected through PCIe LSI Logic SAS 9207-8i Storage Controller LSI00301

Motherboard is : Intel Corporation DX79SI , Version AAG28808-600, Intel Corp., Version SIX7910J.86A.0650.2014.0307.0138

tower-diagnostics-20220917-2226.zip

[Lolight]

Possibly related to this?

 

 

[JorgeB]

LSISAS2308: FWVersion(15.00.00.00)

 

This is old, update to latest (20.00.07.00).

[Jeffrey Teague]

19 hours ago, JorgeB said:

LSISAS2308: FWVersion(15.00.00.00)

 

This is old, update to latest (20.00.07.00).

did you see the FWVersion int he diagnostic somewhere?

I am worried on going this path as I only have the one card and it was expensive, I dont want to mess up anything by upgrading the firmware and then no longer being able to access data or do it wrong and have to buy a new card.

[Jeffrey Teague]

22 hours ago, Lolight said:

Possibly related to this?

 

 

am I reading this correctly, I might only have to switch some setting on drives to get them to show up?

[ChatNoir]

1 hour ago, Jeffrey Teague said:

did you see the FWVersion int he diagnostic somewhere?

Yes.

Sep 17 00:01:49 Tower kernel: mpt2sas_cm0: LSISAS2308: FWVersion(15.00.00.00), ChipRevision(0x05), BiosVersion(07.29.00.00)

 

[JorgeB]

Upgrading the LSI firmware is easy and pretty safe.

[Jeffrey Teague]

5 hours ago, ChatNoir said:

Yes.

Sep 17 00:01:49 Tower kernel: mpt2sas_cm0: LSISAS2308: FWVersion(15.00.00.00), ChipRevision(0x05), BiosVersion(07.29.00.00)

 

 

2 hours ago, JorgeB said:

Upgrading the LSI firmware is easy and pretty safe.

Do you think upgrading my firmware is the solution here? Do you feel as though the 20TB drive is not showing up due to firmware fix?

OR

Is this a step in the direction as to help determine next steps?

I want to return the drives in the return window if I need to get smaller drives. Do you know the max drive size my system could support? Or where I can find this information?

Edited September 19, 2022 by Jeffrey Teague
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[JorgeB]

Firmware is a possibility, since the disk is pretty new, also you should do it anyway, so nothing to lose, if it doesn't help you can try other things, you can also try connecting the disk to the onboard SATA if it's available, that would also confirm if the disk/HBA combo is the problem.

[Jeffrey Teague]

13 hours ago, JorgeB said:

Firmware is a possibility, since the disk is pretty new, also you should do it anyway, so nothing to lose, if it doesn't help you can try other things, you can also try connecting the disk to the onboard SATA if it's available, that would also confirm if the disk/HBA combo is the problem.

upgraded firmware and bios.

drive still does not show.

 

Attaching new diagnostics.

 

 

tower-diagnostics-20220919-2040.zip

[Jeffrey Teague]

On 9/18/2022 at 1:35 AM, Lolight said:

Possibly related to this?

 

 

 

 

I dont think this is related.  I am not seeing drive at all.

 

[JorgeB]

Connect the disk to one of the onboard SATA ports and see if it's detected by the board BIOS, also make sure the disk is not affected by the 3.3v issue, that's mostly for WD/HGST disks but since it's a new model you never know, so use a molex to SATA adapter just in case.

[Jeffrey Teague]

4 hours ago, JorgeB said:

Connect the disk to one of the onboard SATA ports and see if it's detected by the board BIOS, also make sure the disk is not affected by the 3.3v issue, that's mostly for WD/HGST disks but since it's a new model you never know, so use a molex to SATA adapter just in case.

what is the v3.3 issue?

 

I have attempted direct boot to motherboard sata and I dont see it in the bios.

How do I know how large of drive my system will support?

[Frank1940]

21 minutes ago, Jeffrey Teague said:

what is the v3.3 issue?

See here:

    https://forums.unraid.net/topic/73717-solutions-shucked-wd-8tb-easystore-33v-pin-issue/

 

Problem is that one of the pins in the original SATA spec was reassigned to be a drive reset signal line (Not sure by whom or why..) from being a 3.3V supply pin and the drive would reset when the voltage on that pin reached a logical '1' which 3.3V is.   The normal SATA power supply connector has 3.3V on that pin!   The problem usually occurs with Shucked Drives as the manufacturers tend to use excess inventory hard drives in those USB devices to move them out of their inventory.  (The drives with 3.3V reset pin are very difficult to sell in the normal market channels!)

 

PS---  I have never heard of a storage drive packaged in a SATA configuration that required 3.3V to operate.  This whole thing seems to be one of those situations where the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing...

 

PPS---  I have no clue as to why a reset pin would be needed on a hard drive...

[Jeffrey Teague]

I updated firmware of LSI card and verified it was not a 3.3v issue.

Motherboard ultimately didn't support this large of drive at latest BIOS update.

 

I returned the drives and got something smaller that was supported.

[Kilrah]

On 9/20/2022 at 3:04 PM, Frank1940 said:

 (The drives with 3.3V reset pin are very difficult to sell in the normal market channels!)

 

PS---  I have never heard of a storage drive packaged in a SATA configuration that required 3.3V to operate.  This whole thing seems to be one of those situations where the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing...

 

PPS---  I have no clue as to why a reset pin would be needed on a hard drive...

 

It's not "needed" per se or a confused situation, it's done on purpose on external drives precisely to discourage shucking. 

Edited October 1, 2022 by Kilrah

[JorgeB]

43 minutes ago, Jeffrey Teague said:

Motherboard ultimately didn't support this large of drive at latest BIOS update.

Strange but the LSI supports it for sure, so likely not the problem.