May 1, 201313 yr im upgrading from old plex (plex-media-server-plugin-noarch-0.2-ds.plg). i cant start plex. are there anything i should do before upgrade? A Plex log would help figure out the problem. Post one. its working now. im not sure why. anyway, pardon me for not providing logs when requesting help. thanks. Didn't mean to sound rude. I was posting from my phone.
May 1, 201313 yr im upgrading from old plex (plex-media-server-plugin-noarch-0.2-ds.plg). i cant start plex. are there anything i should do before upgrade? A Plex log would help figure out the problem. Post one. its working now. im not sure why. anyway, pardon me for not providing logs when requesting help. thanks. Didn't mean to sound rude. I was posting from my phone. im not implying that or anything like that. anyway, what is the recommended folder for library and temp directory? flash drive, cache drive or unraid array drive?
May 2, 201313 yr im upgrading from old plex (plex-media-server-plugin-noarch-0.2-ds.plg). i cant start plex. are there anything i should do before upgrade? A Plex log would help figure out the problem. Post one. its working now. im not sure why. anyway, pardon me for not providing logs when requesting help. thanks. Didn't mean to sound rude. I was posting from my phone. im not implying that or anything like that. anyway, what is the recommended folder for library and temp directory? flash drive, cache drive or unraid array drive? Cache drive for library, /tmp is fine for the temp directory.
May 3, 201313 yr Cache drive for library, /tmp is fine for the temp directory. i read some more and you were right. imho, cache drive for library, /tmp for the temp directory IS the best way. thanks.
May 3, 201313 yr i read some more and you were right. imho, cache drive for library, /tmp for the temp directory IS the best way. Not totally sure, but doesn't the transcoder use the specified temp directory? And isn't the tmp directory on a RAM disk? So if you use Plex Sync (Plex Pass feature) to sync files with mobile clients for offline use, you could run out of RAM. As it would be temporarily storing the transcoded files in the tmp directory on the RAM disk. If my understanding is correct, this setup could obviously cause issues for people.
May 3, 201313 yr @all: Does your server still go to S3 sleep after installing the plex plugin and putting Library and Temp to your cache drive? Mine doesn't and I really want this feature back. Any ideas?
May 3, 201313 yr i read some more and you were right. imho, cache drive for library, /tmp for the temp directory IS the best way. Not totally sure, but doesn't the transcoder use the specified temp directory? And isn't the tmp directory on a RAM disk? So if you use Plex Sync (Plex Pass feature) to sync files with mobile clients for offline use, you could run out of RAM. As it would be temporarily storing the transcoded files in the tmp directory on the RAM disk. If my understanding is correct, this setup could obviously cause issues for people. I was thinking the same thing. Am I missing something here?
May 3, 201313 yr i read some more and you were right. imho, cache drive for library, /tmp for the temp directory IS the best way. Not totally sure, but doesn't the transcoder use the specified temp directory? And isn't the tmp directory on a RAM disk? So if you use Plex Sync (Plex Pass feature) to sync files with mobile clients for offline use, you could run out of RAM. As it would be temporarily storing the transcoded files in the tmp directory on the RAM disk. If my understanding is correct, this setup could obviously cause issues for people. you got a point there. actually, how much space does transcoding actually need? how much space for worst case? thanks.
May 3, 201313 yr Can this be use to play hd movies in ps3? Also I am not sure if my specs are enough for this to run without problem. Specs: 6GB RAM G630 Intel Plugins installed. Sabnzbd Sickbeard Airvideo Subsonic VirtualBox APC UPS Daemon with all the plugins installed and used is it still possible to install plex? Thanks
May 3, 201313 yr you got a point there. actually, how much space does transcoding actually need? how much space for worst case? thanks. It needs however much space the transcoded file will occupy. In other words it is entirely dependent on the quality settings of the transcode as well as the length. A 2 hr 1080p source movie, transcoded to 4Mb/s 720p quality would take roughly 3.6GB.
May 3, 201313 yr Can this be use to play hd movies in ps3? Also I am not sure if my specs are enough for this to run without problem. Specs: 6GB RAM G630 Intel Plugins installed. Sabnzbd Sickbeard Airvideo Subsonic VirtualBox APC UPS Daemon with all the plugins installed and used is it still possible to install plex? Thanks If your video files are natively supported by the PS3 then the CPU usage is negligible. It's the transcoding that takes the power, and there isn't too much guidance on minimum spec beyond a core 2 duo 2GHz + for 720p. Then you must take into consideration the bit rate. I think you will need to try it and see, if there is too much stuttering, monitor your cpu usage and you'll know for sure. fortunately unRAID is quick and easy to install/remove new plugins
May 3, 201313 yr you got a point there. actually, how much space does transcoding actually need? how much space for worst case? thanks. It needs however much space the transcoded file will occupy. In other words it is entirely dependent on the quality settings of the transcode as well as the length. A 2 hr 1080p source movie, transcoded to 4Mb/s 720p quality would take roughly 3.6GB. Yep, sounds about spot on for a movie from my experience. And you can also use it to sync TV series, so for a full hour long show in 720p AC3 5.1 source at ~1.6GB, using the high quality setting which keeps it at 720p and AAC stereo end up being ~1.2GB. Not even total worst case, but multiply that by 10 episodes, and you've got about 12GB you're trying to load into RAM. And if you were to reboot before syncing you'd lose any existing continent. If you really want to talk worst case, assume you do full the RAM disk, and unRAID is trying to write to the array at that time. I'm not totally sure but couldn't that potentially corrupt the data disk(s) you're writing to, as well as parity? Not sure what the recovery process is for that. This advice is also in the wiki: http://lime-technology.com/wiki/index.php/Plex_for_UnRAID_FAQ#Need_configurable_transcode_director It's a little out of date though, as the transcode location in now configurable through the server settings. Personally I use my cache disk as the temp location and Plex works fine.
May 4, 201313 yr Personally I use my cache disk as the temp location and Plex works fine. +1. That's what I do and everything works beautifully. I personally can't see any advantage to using /tmp (RAM), but I can see a number of downsides to it.
May 4, 201313 yr If you're using the Plex Sync where it has to pre-transcode the entire video then you could possibly run out of RAM. When doing on the fly transcoding though it's actually only keeping a segment of video on RAM. It encodes a segment, before that segment has played through completely, it starts encoding the next segment. When that new segment starts playing the old segment is discarded. Thats why you can jump back, say, 30 seconds and there is no buffering, since 30 seconds ago is still in RAM. Jump back 5 minutes and it buffers because that segment is being transcoded again.
May 4, 201313 yr I need help. I installed plex. ps3 can see it but no content is showing when I browse my media. checking the log shows mkv/h264 cannot support direct play thing..
May 4, 201313 yr I've not used DLNA before, there is an entire forum for it though over at plex. You will probably have more chance of finding help there. http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/forum/113-dlna/
May 4, 201313 yr If you're using the Plex Sync where it has to pre-transcode the entire video then you could possibly run out of RAM. When doing on the fly transcoding though it's actually only keeping a segment of video on RAM. It encodes a segment, before that segment has played through completely, it starts encoding the next segment. When that new segment starts playing the old segment is discarded. Thats why you can jump back, say, 30 seconds and there is no buffering, since 30 seconds ago is still in RAM. Jump back 5 minutes and it buffers because that segment is being transcoded again. True. If you are not using Plex Sync, then using /tmp should be fine. EDIT: I'm not so sure about that. Someone is currently remotely streaming a movie (which requires transcoding) from my server, so I decided to take a look. The segments are not being removed in real time after they are played. The viewer is over an hour into the movie at this point, but all segments are still there on the cache drive. It would appear all segments are retained until viewing is complete. That said, as long as you have a sufficient amount of RAM (8GB or greater IMO) and it's unlikely that you will be transcoding multiple streams simultaneously, using /tmp should be ok. In most cases though I would advise using disk (preferably /mnt/cache).
May 4, 201313 yr If you're using the Plex Sync where it has to pre-transcode the entire video then you could possibly run out of RAM. When doing on the fly transcoding though it's actually only keeping a segment of video on RAM. It encodes a segment, before that segment has played through completely, it starts encoding the next segment. When that new segment starts playing the old segment is discarded. Thats why you can jump back, say, 30 seconds and there is no buffering, since 30 seconds ago is still in RAM. Jump back 5 minutes and it buffers because that segment is being transcoded again. True. If you are not using Plex Sync, then using /tmp should be fine. EDIT: I'm not so sure about that. Someone is currently remotely streaming a movie (which requires transcoding) from my server, so I decided to take a look. The segments are not being removed in real time after they are played. The viewer is over an hour into the movie at this point, but all segments are still there on the cache drive. It would appear all segments are retained until viewing is complete. That said, as long as you have a sufficient amount of RAM (8GB or greater IMO) and it's unlikely that you will be transcoding multiple streams simultaneously, using /tmp should be ok. In most cases though I would advise using disk (preferably /mnt/cache). It may function differently when the output is written to a disk. I've monitored my RAM usage before when transcoding in both Plex and AirVideo Server (both in unraid when I was using the plugins, and in an Ubuntu server VM where I run them now) and neither uses a more substantial amount of RAM.
May 21, 201313 yr anyone else get this line in their plex media server.log? May 21, 2013 20:41:29 [0xa7bffb70] WARN - WARNING: Couldn't create directory /mnt/cache/apps/Plex/Application Support/Plex Media Server/Plug-ins/Framework.bundle/Contents/Resources/Platforms/Linux/i386/Frameworks/
May 22, 201313 yr anyone else get this line in their plex media server.log? May 21, 2013 20:41:29 [0xa7bffb70] WARN - WARNING: Couldn't create directory /mnt/cache/apps/Plex/Application Support/Plex Media Server/Plug-ins/Framework.bundle/Contents/Resources/Platforms/Linux/i386/Frameworks/ I get the same error. Roughly every 5 minutes.
May 22, 201313 yr I get it too but PMS is rock solid. I wouldn't worry about it (but I will try to figure out whats happening)
May 22, 201313 yr I get it too but PMS is rock solid. I wouldn't worry about it (but I will try to figure out whats happening) Same here. Rock solid for me as well.
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