November 15, 201312 yr unRaid 6.0 request: Telnet disabled by default, SSH enabled by default.. It's a better way to go.
November 15, 201312 yr unRaid 6.0 request: Telnet disabled by default, SSH enabled by default.. It's a better way to go. +1
November 15, 201312 yr unRaid 6.0 request: Telnet disabled by default, SSH enabled by default.. It's a better way to go. no if telnet disabled by default. either enabled both or keep as it is.
November 15, 201312 yr unRaid 6.0 request: Telnet disabled by default, SSH enabled by default.. It's a better way to go. no if telnet disabled by default. either enabled both or keep as it is. Why would you want to use Telnet over SSH?
November 15, 201312 yr Why would you want to use Telnet over SSH? Because it just works, out of the box. (Home server, no internet connection). If you HAVE to use ssh, you need to do seome work to configure it first. You want to make the rest of us do extra work too.
November 15, 201312 yr What work? I believe with default settings and the root user Tom could easily have it "just work", but I admit it has been a while since I setup ssh on unraid and I'm hardly an expert. So consider my question an honest one made out of curiosity. At the very least there needs to be a way to disable telnet from the gui.
November 15, 201312 yr Author http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet#Security And SSH just works well. Windows users can use PuTTY, same as they do for Telnet, and of course Linux/Mac users have ssh out-of-the-box.
November 15, 201312 yr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet#Security And SSH just works well. Windows users can use PuTTY, same as they do for Telnet, and of course Linux/Mac users have ssh out-of-the-box. Yes you can but you can also just use a command prompt for Telnet in Windows and not have to install any other software.
November 15, 201312 yr unRaid 6.0 request: Telnet disabled by default, SSH enabled by default.. It's a better way to go. No
November 15, 201312 yr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet#Security And SSH just works well. Windows users can use PuTTY, same as they do for Telnet, and of course Linux/Mac users have ssh out-of-the-box. Yes you can but you can also just use a command prompt for Telnet in Windows and not have to install any other software. Telnet is no longer enabled by default on Windows Sent from a mobile device, sorry for any typos.
November 15, 201312 yr It's no hardship to install though or just install putty Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
November 15, 201312 yr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telnet#Security And SSH just works well. Windows users can use PuTTY, same as they do for Telnet, and of course Linux/Mac users have ssh out-of-the-box. Yes you can but you can also just use a command prompt for Telnet in Windows and not have to install any other software. Telnet is no longer enabled by default on Windows Sent from a mobile device, sorry for any typos. But it is a simple matter to enable it without installing software. Technically I'm wrong since the telnet client isn't installed by default anymore. I was thinking it was just a RegEdit to turn it on but you have to add it from the windows install. I do like the way the default screen fonts look compared to the default fonts in Putty but otherwise SSH with putty or telnet really makes no difference to me.
November 15, 201312 yr I'm definitely on board with enabling SSH over telnet. Hardly anyone or anything uses telnet anymore. It's the primary method to access any UNIX/Linux based system for more than 15 years. The OpenSSH server can be enabled easily just like telnet. The only complication on the server side is creating the initial SSH host key pairs, but all OpenSSH server packages are configured to do that automatically at install/startup time. Some mods may be needed to preserve the SSH host key so that it does not change between reboots of unRAID. As for the client, there are several available and they are simple to use (and many are free). Having OpenSSH server available allows far better security. Yeah, I know, most of these are home networks, but home systems can be hacked into and snoop the network for that password--it's just too easy. It also opens the door for more advanced stuff like allowing RSA keys (login from a trusted system without a password prompt) and SCP/SFTP as another means for moving files back and forth (including rsync).
November 15, 201312 yr Author Pros of Telnet: - Very slightly easier for Windows users - Retro 1995-feel Pros of SSH: - Much more secure - RSA key-pair login - SCP transfers - SFTP transfers
November 16, 201312 yr I would imagine that the 64-bit release will be using a newer Kernel and one that is used in Slackware 14.1. Correct. Tom, in 6.0 can you also please move to SSH and disable Telnet by default. Perhaps have tickboxes in the GUI to turn on Telnet and/or SSH. I really can't think of a reason why one wouldn't move to SSH these days.
November 16, 201312 yr I would very much like SSH enabled by default. If there are those who still haven't ceased using telnet and therefore still need it; at least give us SSH as a built-in option. Another option would be to allow for disabling of telnet.
November 16, 201312 yr I would very much like SSH enabled by default. If there are those who still haven't ceased using telnet and therefore still need it; at least give us SSH as a built-in option. Another option would be to allow for disabling of telnet. Why what's the point, what am I missing. :-)
November 16, 201312 yr I would very much like SSH enabled by default. If there are those who still haven't ceased using telnet and therefore still need it; at least give us SSH as a built-in option. Another option would be to allow for disabling of telnet. Why what's the point, what am I missing. :-) Security. Telnet has none.
November 16, 201312 yr Good suggestion! +1 for ssh being included by default :-) Sent from my GT-I9100P using Tapatalk
November 16, 201312 yr Telnet should be depreciated in favor of ssh. The only difference to the end-user is typing (or selecting) "ssh" instead of "telnet". There is no configuration issue with ssh. unRAID should support it by default.
November 16, 201312 yr I'm in favor of having both installed as part of the standard unRAID distro with an option to enable/disable each. At the very least if openssh was installed in the unRAID distro we could write a module to enable/disable them. The only configuration issue may be saving the host key after it has been created. Something will need to be done to change the sshd_config to point to the flash or to backup/restore to/from flash. What ssh also buys, is the ability to use sftp and/or rsync over ssh for moving files and or/ backup/restore. Furthermore, it's more secure for traffic over the internet when accessing via console and/or sftp, rsync. I always install it via a package, but I have to install other scripts to backup/restore the hostkey and/or any user keys. Another cool feature is the ability to forward tcp/ip traffic. In my case, I forward local port 3128 on my workstation via SecureCRT /SSH Tunneling to a squid http proxy on my unRAID server. This allows me to use a local browser outside my network to access any machine internal or external through the SSH tunnel. (including unRAID). In effect, I can manage the emhttp browser interface through a secure manner over the SSH tunnel. Sort of a poor man's vpn. I connect with SSH via SecureCRT and SSH tunneling enabled. Change Firefox to use a local proxy on port 3128 and all http traffic through that browser gets tunneled via the SSH tunnel. ( I usually use chrome, but use firefox specifically for this ability) Another feature I use allot is transferring files rapidly with zmodem. Yes, the old ASCII BBS file transfer interface. Using SecureCRT, I'm able to ssh in, cd to a directory (usually a music directory), type in sz -e (files) and have files transferred to my local machine rapidly. Works the same way with rz -e. Works good for accessing source files quickly. While this requires installing the lrzsz package, I usually copy the binaries to /boot/bin for quick access no matter where I am. Don't mistake this as an advertisement for SecureCRT. It's just some basic facts/features to propose why having SSH with a good client is beneficial.
November 17, 201312 yr seeing people talk about putty.. do yourself a favor and use xShell instead on windows. for Win users: http://www.netsarang.com/products/xsh_overview.html -- Free users: Select the 'Free for Home/School' option. for OS X users, use iterm2: http://www.iterm2.com/#/section/home
November 17, 201312 yr can you also please ... disable Telnet by default No. Don't just say no. Give a valid reason why.
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