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Hey Spinbot,

 

No need to multi-thread your jukebox if you're downloading and storing all of the images in your movie folder.  The longest part of rebuilding a jukebox is getting the images.  If you've got your database setup then if you add a couple dvd's it won't take long for the images to update.  If you take it a step further and just download the cover, fanart, banner etc. manually then the jukebox will update even faster.

 

As for your HD spindown issue, the only thing you need running in terms of NMT Apps with your setup is SMB so you can access the drive from your desktop.

 

Aeon Movie Wall comes with a utility to fix the overscan issue.  It varies depending on the tv you are outputting the jukebox.  Just go to the NMT forum and look in the first post of EJP's skin for the utility and follow the instructions.  This should solve your issue.  Drop me an e-mail if you can't get it working.

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I only changed the one setting ( to let it know I have a dual core processor ) and I left the other one alone.

 

I have about 700 icons on my PCH menu now ( I say icons as the TV one's can have multiple DVD's as part of it ).

 

When I run YAMJ now, it averages 10 minutes to complete the full cycle, including copying the updates to the PCH.

 

I actually remember you saying you downloaded some thing manually ( I guess that ensures you always get the right matches ).

 

Maybe I can be doing more than I do now.

 

My routine now, for adding a new DVD to the server/PCH is

 

1.  Create a folder with the name of the Movie ( Ex. Remember The Titans )

2.  Create an .iso from the DVD ( Ex. Remember The Titans.iso )

3.  Create a .nfo that has 2 items in it:  IMDB ID and Movie Name ( Remember The Titans.nfo )

<movie>

    <title>Remember The Titans</title>

    <id>tt0210945</id>

</movie>

4.  Download cover-art from http://www.themoviedb.org/ ( Remember The Titans.jpg )

5.  Download fanart from http://www.thetvdb.com/  ( ex.  Remember The Titans.fanart.jpg )

 

Then, at the end of the day, I copy all the folders over to media share on the UnRaid Server and if it completes before I go to bed, I run YAMJ, otherwise I run it in the morning, then make sure everything got setup properly on the PCH.

 

Once I get my cache drive configured , I can move things over right away , but because I am transferring so many movies from DVD to .iso and my cache drive is only 20GB, its not useful yet.

 

You mentioned you also download banners.   Where are they use/seen on the PCH and what format do you save them?

 

Thanks for the over-scan direction.   I will leave it be, for now, as my PCH isn't on the primary TV it's intended for, so for all I know, it may work on that TV without any changes.

 

 

 

 

The multi-threading portion of YAMJ has nothing to do with how many cores your processor has.  It's more related to the activity your computer makes with the websites it is communicating with during the update process.  I have no idea how it works exactly so don't hold me to any of the details but apparently, if you set these numbers too high then your IP address could get banned from certain sites (presumably where YAMJ is using an API to scape information from the site).  I think the point of the multi-threading is to have this process going on concurrently with many movies in your jukebox making it a parallel process rather than sequential.  Some websites may view this as an "attack" and can apparently block your IP address automatically.  Since you're already downloading the movie art and fanart separately, the longest part of updating YAMJ is done.  10 min for the number of movies that you have as well as the size of your jukebox (mine is like 200 MB for only 200 movies) and the fact that you have parity running on your server doesn't seem like a long time and I doubt you're seeing much benefit from this change.  Either way, I think you are safe to only set it to 2 instead of one.

 

I use the TV banner setting in Aeon for when I filter to TV shows.  It will give you multiple banners for all the shows rather than the typical poster art.  Just a cool variation in my opinion and mixes things up a bit for TV shows.  I got your e-mail regarding the settings for the movie wall and tv shows but I'll have to reply later when I have the skin settings in front of me.

 

 

How do you guys manage "sets" with YAMJ.

 

For example, i have The Jack Ryan Collection:

Looking for some direction on DVD Sets.

 

Patriot Games.iso

Clear And Present Danager.iso

The Hunt For Red October.iso

The Sum Of All Fears.iso

 

Do most people just break the set apart and list them individually or is their a more slick way to do with with the "set" command?

 

I some options in the .nfo help, however can't say I am following it 100%.  This make sense:

 

<movie>

    <title>Jack Ryan Collection</title>

    <sets>

      <set>Patriot Games</set>

      <set>Clear And Present Danger</set>

      <set>The Hunt For Red October</set>

      <set>The Sum Of All Fears</set>     

    </sets>

</movie>

 

The follow up question is where do you store all the files on the UnRaid Server?

 

Do you have a main folder called "Jack Ryan Collection" and then in that folder the .nfo just created above and then each of the 4 individual movie .iso's ?

 

Thanks

 

 

spinbot

 

Each movie in a set would have its own nfo. In each nfo the order number and set name is added under the sets element. Movies can be stored anywhere YAMJ has access on the server with the method described below.

 

If I use your example for the movie Patriot Games. Lets say this would be the 2nd movie included in the box set Jack Ryan Collection. The nfo for Patriot Games would look like this. If you wanted to add a custom box set image just name it like the box set name example Set_Jack Ryan Collection_1.jpg. Include Set_Jack Ryan Collection_1.jpg in the same folder as the 1st movie to the set. 

 

<movie>

  <id>tt0105112</id>

  <title>Patriot Games</title>

  <sets>

    <set order="2">Jack Ryan Collection</set>

  </sets>

</movie>

 

 

cheers db

 

here's the wiki link

http://code.google.com/p/moviejukebox/wiki/BoxedSets

 

Thanks daniel... just playing with it now.

 

Any other organizational things you guys do with the .nfo's ?   I'm an obsessive/compulsive person, so all these little things keep me busy :)

 

 

EDIT... That did it !

 

Now, I see both the box set image and then I can access to get to each individual movie title.

I can also see each title when browsing my skin images.    In this case, its works well, however when I do my Alien Quad Collection, I'm going to end up seeing the box set image right beside the individual images.    Is that how you guys have it setup?

@ Spinbot re: Multi-Threading in YAMJ and number of processor cores

 

I was basing my comments from Omertron's info regarding multi-threading.  Here's a quote from a post over at NMT forum:

 

RE: YAMJ Multi-threading fixed

The latest multi-threading allows you as many Scan/Process threads as you like without affecting the underlying sites that the data is scraped from. So you could have 10 scan threads downloading 2 things from IMDB and 8 more from google.

 

If there are 10 things for IMDB, then they'll be "queued" until the previous threads are completed.

 

Does that make more sense?

 

Having said that, it seems most users are setting mjb.MaxThreadsProcess=2 for dual core processors and mjb.MaxThreadsProcess=4 for quad core processors.

Ok.. that's what I have done.

 

I have scan set to 5 and process set to 2 ( I have a Dual Core CPU ).

 

It did reduce my time by about 25% even though I am adding 30 ish DVDs to the server each day now.  My time to process about 750 items , with me downloading the fanart and cover-art image on my own and creating an .nfo for each, is a little over 8 minutes.    I obviously do not replace the Jukebox folder, I'm just letting YAMJ integrate my changes/additions into it.  The Jukebox folder is just under 1GB now containing over 8700 files.  I suspect if I did a complete rebuild of it, these change in settings would help out much more ( as over half of my entries on the server I did not manually download the artwork for or create .nfo ).  I do also have a few hundred trailers sitting in the same folders as the respective .iso.

 

This much more enjoyable when everything is working and I am just beautifying it  :)

 

I quickly had to learn how to jump pages on the menu as going page by page through 54 pages can take a while.  I didn't clue into this during my first round on my PCH, but if you just press the number buttons multiple times, it jumps to the corresponding letter ( ex.  press 1 once, you get the "A's", press it twice you get "B's", press 2 once you get "D's", etc ).

 

I really need to start reading manuals to learn some of these short-cuts  :)

Now, I see both the box set image and then I can access to get to each individual movie title.

I can also see each title when browsing my skin images.     In this case, its works well, however when I do my Alien Quad Collection, I'm going to end up seeing the box set image right beside the individual images.    Is that how you guys have it setup?

 

I do not get the images showing up along with the box set. I think thats a setting in YAMJ you may have to tune in the properties file.

 

Look here

http://code.google.com/p/moviejukebox/wiki/PropertiesConfiguration#Boxed_Sets

Neither do I now... hmmm.. didn't change anything ( I just re-ran YAMJ with some other updates ).

 

All is good now  :)

Neither do I now... hmmm.. didn't change anything ( I just re-ran YAMJ with some other updates ).

 

All is good now  :)

 

Sorry if this has been mentioned

Prior to reunning YAMJ delete any previously created html associated with any movies being changed. Another gotcha is to make sure to clear the PCH cache after making jukebox changes.

 

db

I rebuilt my Jukebox completely ( bad idea in hind-sight as it took me 15+ hours ) as I downloaded an update Aeon Skin as I needed to make some overscan adjustments.

 

I guess I picked a bad time to do this as http://www.thetvdb.com/ was down and continues to be down ( at least for regular http access ).  I figure the reason none of my TV series downloaded properly is because it isn't scarping either.

 

Anyone know what's going on with them?  I suspect I am better off waiting for it to be fixed rather than trying to pull info from elsewhere ( as it would be the best source for TV info ).

 

When it is up and working again, is my best option to NOT delete the entire jukebox again, but to go in and delete every entry related to TV series I have ?

I've done the same thing before so you're not alone.  That's when I started downloading all of the jukebox files manually.  One option you have is once you thetvdb.org comes back online is to copy the jpg files to a backup directory so you always have the artwork (poster, fanart, banner et al).  That way if you want to do a clean rebuild of your jukebox you've got artwork in case something goes wrong.  Then you can start manually placing the artwork in your movie folders as you find issues.  The next time you regenerate the jukebox the artwork will be pulled from the movie directory rather than downloaded.  This should also speed up your jukebox creation significantly.

Anyone use YANFOE for creating .nfo's as well as downloading poster/fanart ?

 

I've been playing around with it and it works pretty well.

 

As part of the NFO, it find YouTube Trailers for the movie and puts the trailer link in the NFO.  I've been deleting them, as I download trailers separately from Apple/Quicktime.

 

I actually gave it a try a few minutes ago and the trailer links don't work.  I'm guessing it's because the PCH doesn't know how to do Flash ... right?

 

Otherwise , YANFOE creates a fairly extensive NFO.  I see the benefit is that when scarping for information later ( say you want to completely rebuild your Jukebox ), their is less information to gather online as you have all of it stored locally.

I have been using the smb-extra.conf file to share a directory containing my movies and it works fine but now I want to add a share for my music and Iam having a problem. I have rewritten the smb-extra.conf file as below.

 

[uNMovies]

path=mnt/user/Media/Video/Movies

read only=no

[MyMusic]

path=mnt/user/Media/Music

read only=no

 

Now I can see and access both shares on the PC's on the network and I can navigate and play the music from it, UNMovies plays just fine too. Testparm shows the share as well.

 

But if I set up a share on the PCH as MyMusic smb://192.168.1.1/MyMusic when I try to select the share on the PCH it tells me "Request cannot be processed".

 

Do you have any ideas what Iam doing wrong?

 

Ridley

I have been using the smb-extra.conf file to share a directory containing my movies and it works fine but now I want to add a share for my music and Iam having a problem. I have rewritten the smb-extra.conf file as below.

 

[uNMovies]

path=mnt/user/Media/Video/Movies

read only=no

[MyMusic]

path=mnt/user/Media/Music

read only=no

 

Now I can see and access both shares on the PC's on the network and I can navigate and play the music from it, UNMovies plays just fine too. Testparm shows the share as well.

 

But if I set up a share on the PCH as MyMusic smb://192.168.1.1/MyMusic when I try to select the share on the PCH it tells me "Request cannot be processed".

 

Do you have any ideas what Iam doing wrong?

 

Ridley

Try putting the leading "/" in the paths...

 

path=mnt/user/Media/Video/Movies  should probably be

path=/mnt/user/Media/Video/Movies

same with the second share you added

path=mnt/user/Media/Music

should be

path=/mnt/user/Media/Music

My mistake the leading "/" are infact there and I should have written.

 

[uNMovies]

path=/mnt/user/Media/Video/Movies

read only=no

[MyMusic]

path=/mnt/user/Media/Music

read only=no

 

Ridley

My mistake the leading "/" are infact there and I should have written.

 

[uNMovies]

path=/mnt/user/Media/Video/Movies

read only=no

[MyMusic]

path=/mnt/user/Media/Music

read only=no

 

Ridley

 

By that I mean my posting missed the leading "/" not the script , the script was as above with the leading "/" so the problem still remains.

Has anyone any ideas about what Iam doing wrong here?

 

Ridley

Sorry Ridley... not that we are ignoring you ( at least not me ), I just am not sure I can help  :(

 

I'm by no means as skilled as Joe L. and some of the others, but one thing that stands out for me is the path you are using on the PCH.

 

You said "But if I set up a share on the PCH as MyMusic smb://192.168.1.1/MyMusic when I try to select the share on the PCH it tells me "Request cannot be processed"."

 

From my networking experience, 192.168.1.1 is the default IP address of a Linksys Router.  Are you sure that's the IP of your server?

Yes this is the IP address of the server, my router is on 192.168.1.254.

 

If have three shares on the PCH

 

"unraid"

 

Set as smb://192.168.1.1/Media

 

"UNMovies"

 

Set as smb://192.168.1.1/UNMovies

 

and

 

"MyMusic"

 

Set as smb://192.168.1.1/MyMusic

 

Testparm returns

 

"[MyMusic]"

"[uNMovies]"

"[Media]"

 

and flash, disk1, disk2 etc

 

I can access the PCH shares "Media" and "UNMovies" no problem at all, but "MyMusic" just states that the "request cannot be processed".

 

I can see and access all three shares on my PC's on the network.

 

Ridley

 

 

 

I am removing a 320GB 3.5" drive from my A-110 and installing an old 80GB 2.5" drive I pulled out of a dead laptop. I've changed my setup so all my data is stored on the server, so i only need enough space on the PCH drive to store the applications and my Jukebox ( from YAMJ ).

 

I'd prefer not to have to go through any configuration woo's again, so would this accomplish that:

1. Copy the /share contents across the network over to my main PC ( its only 1.3GB )

(There are 3 hidden files in the /share folder, I presume they should also be backed up and copied over)

2. install the 2.5" drive

3. fire up the PCH and let it format the drive with Ext3 AND install the application package

4. Copy the /share contents from my main PC back over to the new hard drive

 

If I follow those 4 steps, will my shares , video/audio config, path, etc all be as they were before the HDD swap?

  • 3 weeks later...

I am getting this as soon as the C-200 authenticates to my unRAID box. NFS works kind of, not very stable with some hickups. Anyone has a clue?

 

Dec 19 23:59:53 tower kernel: svc: 192.168.50.100, port=32772: unknown version (0 for prog 100003, nfsd)

Dec 19 23:59:53 tower mountd[1745]: authenticated mount request from 192.168.50.100:874 for /mnt/user/Media (/mnt/user/Media)

  • 2 weeks later...

I've had a PCH A100 running since Spring '08 - up till now fed by a ReadyNAS and scattered external USB drives. I'm currently setting up my first unRAID box so all my data can be in the same place (with room to grow).

 

My A100 is a treat, but i've spent more time ripping my movie collection than actually watching. Now that I have YAMJ set up, i have to re-do all of it because my resource paths will change when i switch to the new box. oh, well.

 

Since the A-110s are no longer available from PCH, and the C-200 seems to be a little uncooked, I was looking at snagging a refurb'ed A-100 from PCH for $99.  All my backups are ISO files made from ClownBD + AnyDVDHD + ImgBurn.  I'm about to embark on an unRAID server to house all the movies, but I haven't been able to decide on the client.  XBMC's interface is gorgeous, but it won't handle the lossless audio in the movies.  I should mention that I ONLY backed up the lossless audio, and none of the cores.  With so many threads on so many different sites, I'm getting a little discouraged with what I should do.  I don't want to burn money on a $400 HTPC that won't do what I need, nor $300 on a box that will eventually work as intended when all the patches are done (read C-200).  Am I correct in assuming I can get an A-100 to do what I'm intending, with YAMJ as the UI, streaming Blu-Ray ISOs via HTTP using llink across my Cat6 wired network?  Can you guys who have gone through all this point me at some how-to's, BEFORE I spend my money?

The A-110 won't play BD ISOs. If you extract the files from the ISOs, it will play the M2TS files though.

 

I would still recommend the C-200. The firmware is buggy, but it's improving quickly. The latest Beta (I'm on the Beta team -- it's not released yet), fixes most of the BD audio issues. I'm almost ready to sell my A-110. About the only thing that doesn't work is discs with PIP.

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