joelones Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Just polling the community to inquire whether anyone is successfully running newznab on their unRAID server. The install reqs for newznab are rather extensive: pre-reqs PHP php version 5.3 or higher sessions enabled memory limit at 256MB or more minimum execution time of 60+ seconds make sure you update the php.ini for both web and cli OpenSSL (if connecting to ssl usenet provider) php register_globals off GD Imaging Library w/PHP integration PEAR MySQL max_allowed_packet=12582912 timezone set to php's Apache script timeout of at least 60 seconds mod_rewrite enabled .htaccess allow override on unRAID-web installs php 5.2.8 I believe. Lighttpd uses different rewrite rules to apache (default setup) someone contributed most of the lighttpd rules, which can be found: http://code.google.com/p/newznab/source/browse/trunk/misc/urlrewriting/lighttpd.txt
BRiT Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Not running it as with the numerous online sites that produce NZB files, I see no need for newznab at all.
cypres0099 Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 I'd love to hear developments on this topic. I about had a meltdown when I saw nzbmatrix was down!
deadsoulz Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Anyone figure this one out yet? I think its more relevant now....
mazma Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 well so far its been pretty easy - this is what I did. Installed Unbuntu via Parallells VM - I have V7 for Mac and its a simple one click install pretty much. Once installed updated it. Downloaded the guide for newznab - some of the details our out of date in the guide but its straight forward to work out if you have a basic understanding of linux and a sprinkling of common sense. Setup newznab. There are a few quirks which I ran across, but mainly I'd advise to purchase newznab+, its like $16 and has the extra features you'll need, in particular all the regex expressions. Without these, newznab won't create any releases. So far its downloading and creating the nzb index which looks like it'll take an age. After that though it shouldn't take anyway near as long. The only bummer I've come across is although I have it setup to send files to sabnzbd, it won't. I think its because there is not option in sabnzbd to add an a custom indexing site like you can with Sickbeard. That being said, I can still add the sites RSS feed to Sab as well as adding individual nzb's that I've downloaded from newznab. We'll see how it goes I guess. All this because those in control can't figure out a way to offer consumers a a'la cart tv system.
unevent Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Keep tabs on the bandwidth is takes to run it if you don't mind. Monthly capped and would like to see if it is worth the effort.
Rcwilbert Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Yep!, I think all the refugees from the Matrix will be looking into this very soon. Hopefully the community can hash it out...
korith Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 looks like torrents are the way to go now i'll never go back to torrents... too unsafe... several of my friends got a warning with a cease-and-desist order (not sure, if that's the correct english term...). they had to pay several hundred euro... Ended up using a proxy to use torrents with, it's a bit slower but safer. Torguard.net had a special during black friday, i think the price was 50% off. Been using it a short while now and it seems to be decent. Your isp only sees you are downloading something but not what or from where.
whiteatom Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Very interested in a newznab install as well. I had a feeling nzbmatrix was a ticking time bomb because it seriously violated the first rule of usenet... But not this quick. How much bandwidth, drive space, RAM, CPU does it take when it's actually up and running? Id love to get a unraid community nzb indexer up and running, but we are a public forum. sooo.. do we go somewhere else to discuss setting this up? Im sure someone has a box on a good connection, and we could arrange to split the bandwidth/data centre fees. We'd also need to establish a minimum list of groups to index to get the content you want. Thoughts?
mazma Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Very interested in a newznab install as well. I had a feeling nzbmatrix was a ticking time bomb because it seriously violated the first rule of usenet... But not this quick. How much bandwidth, drive space, RAM, CPU does it take when it's actually up and running? Id love to get a unraid community nzb indexer up and running, but we are a public forum. sooo.. do we go somewhere else to discuss setting this up? Im sure someone has a box on a good connection, and we could arrange to split the bandwidth/data centre fees. We'd also need to establish a minimum list of groups to index to get the content you want. Thoughts? No idea, I'm running it on a Mac Pro 6 core (12) with 24Gb of ram Not interested in a community indexer for obvious reasons, but would be happy to join forces so we could help each other install it and get it setup the way we want.
mp328 Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Very interested in a newznab install as well. I had a feeling nzbmatrix was a ticking time bomb because it seriously violated the first rule of usenet... But not this quick. How much bandwidth, drive space, RAM, CPU does it take when it's actually up and running? Id love to get a unraid community nzb indexer up and running, but we are a public forum. sooo.. do we go somewhere else to discuss setting this up? Im sure someone has a box on a good connection, and we could arrange to split the bandwidth/data centre fees. We'd also need to establish a minimum list of groups to index to get the content you want. Thoughts? how to... is out there before matrix went down http://www.howtogeek.com/120285/how-to-build-your-own-usenet-indexer/ personally i'd like to see a plugin for us before doing this
Influencer Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Personally in the test install I didn't backfill as I was more interested in New content vs old. I can always do a header search for anything older. As for breaking the #1 rule of Usenet, nzbs crossed a line that put newsgroups in the crosshairs. It made it easy for the masses. The regexes are a must so if you go for it paying for plus is really the only option unless you want to write your own.
jangjong Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 man.. i got in nzb.su just in time.. this is too bad..
Influencer Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 There's actually other pretty decent sites up. They are all just hit or miss right now due to the extra load.
christuf Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Definately - it's a jungle out there right now! Found this guide for Ubuntu... any experts out there who could kindly translate this into Slackware/UnRAID for the community? http://newznab.readthedocs.org/en/latest/guides/install_ubuntu-11.10/
Bigmonty Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 There's also this if it helps anyone: http://www.howtogeek.com/120285/how-to-build-your-own-usenet-indexer/
fonzie Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 This would be so awesome indeed! Not having to rely on other indexing sites that are all being shutdown. Having your own running in your home network would be sweet. As it stands, it seems to be quite the involved process. Integrating it with unRAID would be a dream.
lainie Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Last night, I created a VirtualBox of Unbuntu & installed newznab via the instructions from howtogeek (same link posted but Bigmonty). The admin & home pages of it display... have adjusted a few settings, added a few newsgroups, still trying to get it to populate (under newznab/misc/update_scripts, I have run backfill.php, update_binaries.php & update_releases.php)... it runs for a while with backfill & update_binaries, but then update_releases goes pretty quick saying no releases found. Seems I have missed a step somewhere (maybe more than one). Will play more with it later. For those running VMware or VirtualBox, the instructions for Ubuntu are pretty good to get you started.
christuf Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Last night, I created a VirtualBox of Unbuntu & installed newznab via the instructions from howtogeek (same link posted but Bigmonty). The admin & home pages of it display... have adjusted a few settings, added a few newsgroups, still trying to get it to populate (under newznab/misc/update_scripts, I have run backfill.php, update_binaries.php & update_releases.php)... it runs for a while with backfill & update_binaries, but then update_releases goes pretty quick saying no releases found. Seems I have missed a step somewhere (maybe more than one). Will play more with it later. For those running VMware or VirtualBox, the instructions for Ubuntu are pretty good to get you started. Thank you for the note - I was desperately trying to avoid this approach for simplicity... at the end of the day it is a relatively straightforward PHP based application that shouldn't need a specific Ubuntu (or other OS). I had the same issue when I was playing around with it last night on my OSX machine. The problem is the regex's... they are critical for getting the matching algorithm working... whilst they are user definable, if you buy (for $15) the "Pro" version, it automatically pulls down the relevant and most recent working regex's. Then when you run the update_releases.php, it works.
Influencer Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 It is fairly straightforward for unraid as well. I'll write up the steps tonight if I get the chance. I am running a cache drive and it will be needed, the write performance hit from using an array drive would most likely make this painfully slow and without a good processor would be even worse.
christuf Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 It is fairly straightforward for unraid as well. I'll write up the steps tonight if I get the chance. I am running a cache drive and it will be needed, the write performance hit from using an array drive would most likely make this painfully slow and without a good processor would be even worse. Oh wow... that would be fantastic - if you can give me the broad-brushstrokes, I will go through it tonight and spend the time to document the detailed step-by-step walkthrough (so you don't have to!) I'm semi-linux savvy, but by no means expert!
batt01 Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 Looking forward to this as well. I just made a donation to Newznab and am waiting for the paid version.
jangjong Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 When someone writes up the steps, it would be good to know what cpu you guys recommend. I use Intel G530.. I wonder if it's time to upgrade.....
christuf Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 When someone writes up the steps, it would be good to know what cpu you guys recommend. I use Intel G530.. I wonder if it's time to upgrade..... If it's being kept for personal use, I doubt the processor has much impact. Know that the database file gets pretty big, so think you'd be better spending the money on memory/ larger HDD.
jangjong Posted December 10, 2012 Posted December 10, 2012 If it's being kept for personal use, I doubt the processor has much impact. Know that the database file gets pretty big, so think you'd be better spending the money on memory/ larger HDD. Oh Okay. How big is pretty big? I have a cache drive that i use it as a app drive.. only using 2GB out of 120GB. Should be enough, right?
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