s.Oliver Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 ok, just had a phone call to digital devices and learned, that their tv-card drivers are incorporated into the linux kernel since v4.14. that means, we shouldn't have any problems with driver support, right? @CHBMB is that correct? Link to comment
CHBMB Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I have no idea, I compile the drivers, never seen a Digital Devices card in real life, in fact as of a couple of weeks ago I no longer own a DVB card at all. I had a suspicion Digital Devices had pushed their drivers upstream to the kernel, but until someone with a Digital Devices card actually tests them, I can't vouch for anything. @meep I think has a Digital Devices setup that iirc is quite elaborate, he may be able to give some advice. Link to comment
s.Oliver Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 1 hour ago, CHBMB said: I have no idea, I compile the drivers, never seen a Digital Devices card in real life, in fact as of a couple of weeks ago I no longer own a DVB card at all. I had a suspicion Digital Devices had pushed their drivers upstream to the kernel, but until someone with a Digital Devices card actually tests them, I can't vouch for anything. @meep I think has a Digital Devices setup that iirc is quite elaborate, he may be able to give some advice. ok, thx. if drivers are included in kernel, do you have to do extra steps (or none at all) to make them useable for unRAIDs kernel? (JFMI) Link to comment
CHBMB Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 ok, thx. if drivers are included in kernel, do you have to do extra steps (or none at all) to make them useable for unRAIDs kernel? (JFMI)I activate all the modules for DVB hardware in the kernel when I create the DVB builds. In theory, if they're now in kernel, you should find it works with the LibreELEC build and it should mean I can stop doing the Digital Devices build as all the drivers are now upstream in the kernel... Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
meep Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, CHBMB said: I activate all the modules for DVB hardware in the kernel when I create the DVB builds. In theory, if they're now in kernel, you should find it works with the LibreELEC build and it should mean I can stop doing the Digital Devices build as all the drivers are now upstream in the kernel... Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Just had a PM from @s.Oliver on this. Wasn't aware they were in kernel so will try to have a play in the coming days if I find the time. Will report back when I know more. Link to comment
CHBMB Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Just had a PM from [mention=66961]s.Oliver[/mention] on this. Wasn't aware they were in kernel so will try to have a play in the coming days if I find the time. Will report back when I know more. Thanks, I'm happy to help with compiling providing people give me the info I need to do so.Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
s.Oliver Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 On 23.2.2018 at 6:53 PM, CHBMB said: Thanks, I'm happy to help with compiling providing people give me the info I need to do so. well, we'll need your magic in the future, because in my tests i've seen no driver (or let me say detection of it) while using the standard unRAID build and an Digital Devices tv-card. if i would need to guess, i would say, that lime tech doesn't compile them in their kernel (probably as to get it as small as possible). my TBS 8-tuner DVB-C card had a small fan, which cried to loud. so i've replaced it with the DD Max A8, which is a passiv-cooled card. all seems to working well and it was a simple breeze to change TVH settings (2 min.) to use this card; and all was running immediately. Link to comment
CHBMB Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 well, we'll need your magic in the future, because in my tests i've seen no driver (or let me say detection of it) while using the standard unRAID build and an Digital Devices tv-card. if i would need to guess, i would say, that lime tech doesn't compile them in their kernel (probably as to get it as small as possible). my TBS 8-tuner DVB-C card had a small fan, which cried to loud. so i've replaced it with the DD Max A8, which is a passiv-cooled card. all seems to working well and it was a simple breeze to change TVH settings (2 min.) to use this card; and all was running immediately. The stock build definitely won't work, but you may find the LibreELEC build works as that includes the kernel drivers that aren't activated by LT.Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
s.Oliver Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just now, CHBMB said: The stock build definitely won't work, but you may find the LibreELEC build works as that includes the kernel drivers that aren't activated by LT. ok, but i simply took the digital devices github build Link to comment
CHBMB Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 ok, but i simply took the digital devices github build So...LT stock build - No DVB driversLibreELEC build - Standard kernel DVB drivers and a few extra firmware files to increase device supportDigital Devices Github - Dedicated digital devices drivers that weren't included in the kernel. As Digital Devices have now upstreamed their devices into the kernel the whole point is dev may cease on their github drivers and there may indeed be no need to include doing the Digital Devices builds as the drivers will be included in the LibreELEC build.Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
s.Oliver Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, CHBMB said: So... LT stock build - No DVB drivers LibreELEC build - Standard kernel DVB drivers and a few extra firmware files to increase device support Digital Devices Github - Dedicated digital devices drivers that weren't included in the kernel. As Digital Devices have now upstreamed their devices into the kernel the whole point is dev may cease on their github drivers and there may indeed be no need to include doing the Digital Devices builds as the drivers will be included in the LibreELEC build. Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk ah, thanks! i see. well, as long as you provide these dedicated builds i'll probably simply use them – and afterwards i hopefully remember that i've to use that LibreELEC build Link to comment
CHBMB Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 ah, thanks! i see. well, as long as you provide these dedicated builds i'll probably simply use them – and afterwards i hopefully remember that i've to use that LibreELEC build If it were me, I'd use the LibreELEC builds and see if they work, the Digital Devices Github drivers havn't been updated for a while and may fail to compile as Unraid upgrades the kernel with each release.Better to try and iron out problems with the LE builds now IMHO than having to rush things in the future.Also, if the drivers are now in the kernel I'm not going to do anymore Digital Devices Github builds as there's no need.Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment
s.Oliver Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 15 hours ago, CHBMB said: If it were me, I'd use the LibreELEC builds and see if they work, the Digital Devices Github drivers havn't been updated for a while and may fail to compile as Unraid upgrades the kernel with each release. Better to try and iron out problems with the LE builds now IMHO than having to rush things in the future. Also, if the drivers are now in the kernel I'm not going to do anymore Digital Devices Github builds as there's no need. i see, and don't get me wrong, didn't want to back off being a test-dummy ok, i did a short test with the LibreELEC build and my card. first things first: your plug-in reports v1.2.2 as drivers and everything is detected right. all tuners are recognized and they seem to work. BUT: i see alot of errors reported through TVH and also more errors in the TVH log (all in comparison to the github build to which i'm back now). i'll report a bit more detailed, but need to get some sleep now. Link to comment
CHBMB Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 16 hours ago, s.Oliver said: i see, and don't get me wrong, didn't want to back off being a test-dummy ok, i did a short test with the LibreELEC build and my card. first things first: your plug-in reports v1.2.2 as drivers and everything is detected right. all tuners are recognized and they seem to work. BUT: i see alot of errors reported through TVH and also more errors in the TVH log (all in comparison to the github build to which i'm back now). i'll report a bit more detailed, but need to get some sleep now. Thanks, some logs when you're next able would be helpful,. Link to comment
CHBMB Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 v6.5.0rc1 uploaded. Not done Digital Devices as drivers now in kernel, so use LE build instead. Have changed one of the kernel options for MSI interuppts for Digital Devices cards, regarding the error messages @s.Oliver was seeing in the hope that might solve them. 1 Link to comment
DZMM Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 12 hours ago, CHBMB said: v6.5.0rc1 uploaded. Not done Digital Devices as drivers now in kernel, so use LE build instead. Have changed one of the kernel options for MSI interuppts for Digital Devices cards, regarding the error messages @s.Oliver was seeing in the hope that might solve them. Hi mate upgraded last night to the TBS Open source build and wife just told me tv not working. I've checked and in TVH there are no cards showing - checked docker all still seems ok and the card is still in unraid, so don't think this is RC1 unraid's end: IOMMU group 34: [544d:6178] 07:00.0 Multimedia controller: TBS Technologies DVB-S2 4 Tuner PCIe Card diagnostics attached if they help - I know you don't have a DVB card anymore to check yourself :-( highlander-diagnostics-20180302-1027.zipKeep up the good work! Link to comment
CHBMB Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 @DZMM All the information I need apart from the Unraid DVB plugin screen! Can you post a screenshot? Link to comment
DZMM Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, CHBMB said: @DZMM All the information I need apart from the Unraid DVB plugin screen! Can you post a screenshot? I've just noticed it doesn't say 'DVB' in the top right - didn't it used to? Link to comment
CHBMB Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I've just noticed it doesn't say 'DVB' in the top right - didn't it used to? Not sure,But it actually shows your tuners have drivers.Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
CHBMB Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Not sure,But it actually shows your tuners have drivers.Sent from my LG-H815 using TapatalkWhat drivers were you using before and what Unraid version?Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
DZMM Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, CHBMB said: What drivers were you using before and what Unraid version? Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk 6.4.1 TBS open source Link to comment
CHBMB Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 6.4.1 TBS open sourceTry a new tvheadend docker install with fresh appdata.Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
DZMM Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, CHBMB said: Try a new tvheadend docker install with fresh appdata. Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk I need to switch threads - the problem's either with 6.5rc1 or tvh. I installed dvblink docker and the cards are showing. I then tried removing my tvh image and reinstalling and also a fresh 2nd tvh install and sitll no cards. Thanks for helping debug Link to comment
CHBMB Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 I need to switch threads - the problem's either with 6.5rc1 or tvh. I installed dvblink docker and the cards are showing. I then tried removing my tvh image and reinstalling and also a fresh 2nd tvh install and sitll no cards. Thanks for helping debugYou sure no VM has started or anything and snatched the card?Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk Link to comment
DZMM Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, CHBMB said: You sure no VM has started or anything and snatched the card? Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk yes - i temporarily installed the dvblink docker and it saw the cards ok. I will try a reboot when the family are eating dinner though to see what happens Link to comment
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