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Recommended controllers for Unraid

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12 minutes ago, Devlish said:

Will this work ?

Yep.

49 minutes ago, JorgeB said:

Yep.

Thx for the quick help :)

1 hour ago, Ethnod said:

Would someone be able to please confirm for me if this card will work to expand my storage?

I am not an expert on HBA cards, but here is what I can tell you about the card you linked:

  • It uses the ASMedia 1061 chipset which supports 2 SATA ports.
  • Although the ASM1061 supports port multipliers (bad for use with Unraid) this card does not appear to utilize port multipliers.
  • The card specs state is uses 4 host controllers (ASM1061 chips) onboard which would support 8 SATA drives without multipliers.
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  • The card is PCIe 2.0 which means after subtracting 20% for overhead (typical), This PCIe x4 card would have 1600 MB/s available bandwidth for 8 SATA drives or ~200 MB/s per drive when all drives are in use simultaneously (parity checks and disk rebuilds). This is sufficient for most HDDs.
  • You may wish to avoid connecting SDDs to this card although it says it does support TRIM operations (many HBAs do not support TRIM).  Bandwidth for a SATA SDD would be limited.

Many ASMedia cards are known to work well with Unraid as long as you avoid the ones with port multipliers.

Edited by Hoopster

Hi,

 

Hope my question is okay in this thread.

 

I am building a new compact Unraid box, as a much needed upgrade to my old one. Will be use an Intel i3-12100 with an ASUS PRIME H610I-PLUS D4 mother board. This board only has 4 SATA ports, so was planning to expand this to a total of 8 using a 4 port pcie - Asmedia ASM1064 - this one specifically if important: https://www.delock.com/produkt/90010/merkmale.html

 

Everything is on the way to me, but suddenly I am in doubt if when using this pcie card, the sata ports on the motherboard will be disabled - leaving me with just the 4 sata ports on the expansion card now?

 

If that is the case - would using a sata expansion card in the m2 slot be the way to go instead?

 

Thanks :)

Edited by Underberg
Silly spelling..

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11 hours ago, Underberg said:

but suddenly I am in doubt if when using this pcie card, the sata ports on the motherboard will be disabled

They won't be disabled.

12 hours ago, Underberg said:

was planning to expand this to a total of 8

May I ask which compact case you're planning to use?

8 HDDs in a min-ITX case sounds like a very difficult task to make it work.

Or is it 6 HDDs + 2 SSDs?

Edited by Lolight

8 hours ago, JorgeB said:

They won't be disabled.

Amazing - thanks!

 

6 hours ago, Lolight said:

May I ask which compact case you're planning to use?

8 HDDs in a min-ITX case sounds like a very difficult task to make it work.

Or is it 6 HDDs + 2 SSDs?

A Silverstone DS380

Hello JorgeB,

 

I bought this card : https://www.amazon.fr/BEYIMEI-contrôleur-dextension-Adaptateur-Ordinateur/dp/B07PRRQ41J/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

It is a ASM1061, which is supposed to work with Unraid.

 

After plug-in it (with one SSD attached), four drives (connected to the motherboard) went in error state, and one of these (non-pool drives) were "disabled" (following your advice, i ran a filesystem check and it is now rebuilding).

 

I don't undertand why.

 

I have 2 CGs (PCIe 3.0 x8 and x4) and one HBA LSI 9200-8i (PCIe 3.0 x2, if i understand well my ASRock X570S PG Riptide motherboard), and two PCIe 1x port are masked (because of CG), so only have one PCI 1x availaible. I thought it was a good option.

 

Do you think i can try your "4 ports: Asmedia ASM1064 (PCIe 3.0 x1)" (like this one : https://www.amazon.fr/IO-Crest-ASMedia-Non-Raid-Support/dp/B08J2PK1HF), or i will have the same issue ?

 

Thanks for your time,

 

K.

 

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11 hours ago, Keichi said:

After plug-in it (with one SSD attached), four drives (connected to the motherboard) went in error state

That's strange, please start a new thread in the general support forum and attach the diagnostics (before rebooting).

Hello JorgeB,

 

I did not start a new thread, because i knew you will ask for that.

I forget to download the diagnostic before rebooting, so i don't know, sorry.

Problems with unraid are unsual, I didn't have the reflex to download the diagnostics :(

 

K.

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6 minutes ago, Keichi said:

I didn't have the reflex to download the diagnostics :(

If the emulated disk is mounting rebuild on top and if there are more issues start a thread with the diags.

Ok, thanks!

 

Still 8hours in rebuild, i will see after.

Or maybe try to replug the card after a full backup, if i can reproduce it and help the commonity.

 

K.

Hi, I need an advice.

 

I bought 16 wd red plus HDDs, 4 SSDs and a meshify 2 xl case which has space for all my drives in storage layout. I wanted to make a fast and very big HDD storage for my PC, using windows Storage Spaces in RAID10 mode with ReFS file system, but I soon found out that my 2 Adaptec 7805 raid controllers are HOT. Like, 115 C° in HBA mode. I can return it to Amazon because they also didn't had cables listed in their description, but now I need to pick another 2 8i raid or HBA/IT controllers. Ones that aren't super hot.

 

Could you please recommend me a RAID/IT/HBA controller with 2 internal SAS ports (usually marked as 8i) which has a reasonable price and can work in a normal PC case with 6 fans on like 1000-1200 RPM staying at least under 100 C°?

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7 hours ago, Thatstoohot said:

Could you please recommend me a RAID/IT/HBA controller with 2 internal SAS ports (usually marked as 8i) which has a reasonable price and can work in a normal PC case with 6 fans on like 1000-1200 RPM staying at least under 100 C°?

Unless one of those fans is blowing air directly on the HBAs, like a side case fan, it likely won't be enough, these are server controllers that require a decent amount of airflow around them.

2 hours ago, JorgeB said:

Unless one of those fans is blowing air directly on the HBAs, like a side case fan, it likely won't be enough, these are server controllers that require a decent amount of airflow around them.

I would give it a try. I will just add some active cooling if the controller you would recommend will overheat too.

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52 minutes ago, Thatstoohot said:

the controller you would recommend 

LSI 9211-8i or 9300-8i

17 hours ago, JorgeB said:

LSI 9211-8i or 9300-8i

Thank you. As 9300 supports pcie-3.0, I decided to take just one 9300-16i. It also seems to have a bigger heatsink, which is nice.

 

Upd: bought it.

Edited by Thatstoohot

Hey guys,

so I'm in a bit of a pickle. So far, I've been using a Star Tech USB enclosure with 2 drives and an ITX board inside a fairly small case.
I decided to switch to the CS381 (12 hot swappable drives), but I'll need 1 nvme slot and 2 additional SATA ports for 2 internal HDDs that I use as a backup for my really important data (like the Unraid Apps, VMs, etc). The 12 drives will contain movies, games (NAS for steam), etc. 

 

I haven't bought a motherboard bought, but I'm limited to DDR5 (already got a kit for free) and mATX. I was looking at Intel for the 13100 - I already have an Arc A380 that will occupy the x16 top slot. I have not bought a board yet, as I'm trying to max out the drives and not spend hundreds for no reason.

 

After reading through most of this thread, I think I have figured out what my options are. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.

  • a board with x16 slot and x16 slot running at x4 3.0, then get a 16 lane PCIE 3 SAS card in IT mode (16 ports will have bandwidth limits)
  • get a board with x16 slot and 2x (reachable!) PCIe 3.0 x1 slots, fill both of those with ASM1166 cards (12 ports total, no bandwidth limit?)
  • get a board with 3 m.2 slots and occupy 2, using m.2 to 5 SATA ASMedia adapters (14 ports total, no bandwidth limit)

 

The internal ports would be used for my backup drives. Those drives would be mounted internally and not be part of my 12 hot swap drives. 

 

Am I understanding this correctly? Will the x16 SAS card even work in an x16 slot, if it's only operating at x4 speed? I don't know if all lanes need to be connected electrically. The only controller I can find is the 9300-16i (not 9305-16i), so I'm not sure it would even work. They already come flashed in IT mode and cost around 200€. Not exactly looking forward to it, but I think it might be a better choice than mixing different ASM1166 cards.

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1 hour ago, Schaka said:

Will the x16 SAS card even work in an x16 slot, if it's only operating at x4 speed?

It *should* work.

Is the JMB582 similar to the JMB585?

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