26 minutes ago, Hansa said:

Probably 6?

Typicall SATA controllers are limited to 5 or 6 ports without SATA port multipliers, LSI SAS/SATA HBAs exist with 16 or even 24 ports.

Hi guys, i've been trying to find a way to expand the amount of drives I have and got recommended HBA cards, but now I stumbled upon this thread and got my hopes up that I won't have to deal with flashing into IT mode and all that. Is this correct or do these cards that are recommended still require flashing into IT mode, etc? I found this Asmedia ASM1064 on amazon, is this the correct one that's recommended or is this a different one? Also here's my build.

Asmedia SATA controllers won't require fleshing to IT mode, the model you've linked should work fine.

Can someone please confirm if this card will give me problems with Unraid?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/628684/4_Port_SATA_III_NON-RAID_PCI-e_20_x1_Card

 

TIA

1 hour ago, ArchbaldCortez said:

Can someone please confirm if this card will give me problems with Unraid?

Should be OK, but it's Marvell, I would prefer an Asmedia or JMB based controller, prices should be similar.

On 3/29/2024 at 5:03 AM, GeorgeJetson20 said:

 I really was interested in the LSI 9300 and came super close to ordering it but when I started reading how hot it got.

Since heat has to do with how much power something uses, I did some math. The 9300-8i uses 13w, so 1,6w per port (rounded). They made a more efficient version of it, the 9305-16i, which uses 1,01w pet port.

The 9400-8i uses 1,25w per port, which seems a lot more, but the 9400-16i only uses 0,75w.

The 9500-8i also uses 0,75w, but the 9500-16i uses 0,56w. The 9600-16i uses more again, 1,06w but that's a sas4 (22.5G) card (also drops support for anything below 6Gb/s so old sata 1 & 2 drives won't work. Sata 3 drives will though)

In my experience, you'll need some airflow, but if your drives aren't active 24/7, and in server cases with a fan-wall, you don't really need any extra fans or such, not even with a 9300-8i. (I'm currently using a 9500-16i and a 9600-24i but I also have a 9300-8i I use with a SAS expander and a 9400-16i)

So, you'll probably want a 9400 or a 9500 card. There is an issue with the 9500 and 9600 though, they use 'new' sff-8654 (slimsas 8i) connectors, and cables for that to sff-8643 work fine (if you have HDD cables, they also have PCIe cables which won't work), but as far as I can tell, all cables to sff-8087 are wired for PCIe even if they specify they are for HDDs (at least the ones I tried).

Just realized I still have this thing

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KNXZFRH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Will this 9211-8i work?

 

Or should I aim for a 9300? Or should I leave it alone because it was a good option?

Edited April 2, 20242 yr by Ace319

I bought a LSI SAS 9300-16i from aliexpress and I have to say that I have no problem so far. I have 16 drives connected to it. However, I had to mount a fan on the heatsink. I miss the temperature monitoring of that controller. I'll have to look somewhere to see how to do that.

Hey guys!

 

I've got a couple of upgrades to do to my basic server. I am planning on adding a 10gbe card and a 6 port sata ASM1166 card. Problem I have is, I'm running a mini-ITX so I only have 1x PCIe slot and 1x M.2 slot available. I assume it is better to have the 10gbe card in the PCIe slot because I hear they can run hot (my thought is bigger card, less likely to overheat?), so my only option for the 6 port sata ASM1166 card is in to put it in the M.2 slot.

 

looking at the OP's 6 port suggestion for ASM1166, I only see a suggestion for a PCIe card but I know there is a M.2 card with the same ASM1166 controller (example: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005669800665.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.0.0.7023cgYecgYe2G&mp=1)

 

Questions:

 

1. Will the M.2 card linked above give the same results as the PCIe version?

 

2. Is it better to swap my orientation and get a 10gbe card for the M.2 slot, then put the 6 ports sata card in the PCIe slot?

 

Hopefully this makes sense. I am still a newbie haha

 

This is my mobo for reference: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/B660M-ITXac/index.asp

15 minutes ago, Killaa Chris said:

1. Will the M.2 card linked above give the same results as the PCIe version?

Yes.

 

 

4 minutes ago, JorgeB said:

Yes.

 

 

Awesome! That’s exactly what I wanted to hear! Thanks @JorgeB!

@JorgeB you wouldn’t happen to have a topic like this for Network Cards would you? 

I built my UnRaid server in 2011 in a small Lian Li case, 7 total hdd. My MB is ASUS M4A785T-M with 6 internal SATA ports. I bought at the same time a 2-port sata card, so this gave me 5-data drives, 1-Parity, and 1 Cache, with one spare sata port on the card. The card is installed in a PCIe x 1 slot. I assume this is a single lane slot?

My question, I would like to add one more HDD. Will the PCIe x 1 slot handle a 2nd or 3rd drive and not slow things down? I can't remember the brand of card from 2011? When I do a Parity all the drives are running at about 130MB/s. I don't mind buying a new/different 2-port or 4-port card, or what ever I need? What do you think?

Thanks,

Tom

Edited April 8, 20242 yr by Tom899
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40 minutes ago, Killaa Chris said:

you wouldn’t happen to have a topic like this for Network Cards would you? 

Nope, but there are a few NIC related threads in the hardware forum that should show up in a search, you can ask there for a recommended model, mention what you are looking for, e.g. gigabit or 10GbE, UTP or fiber.

22 minutes ago, Tom899 said:

Will the PCIe x 1 slot handle a 2nd or 3rd drive and not slow things down? I can't remember the brand of card from 2011? When I do a Parity all the drives are running at about 130MB/s. I don't mind buying a new/different 2-port or 4-port card, or what ever I need? What do you think?

A second drive should not slow down the parity check, assuming the controller is working at PCIe 2.0, for a better idea you can post the diags.

 

2 hours ago, JorgeB said:

A second drive should not slow down the parity check, assuming the controller is working at PCIe 2.0, for a better idea you can post the diags.

Great, just downloaded a diag zip. It;s in the middle of a parity check, if that matters?

I appreciate your help!

 

Edited April 8, 20242 yr by Tom899

29 minutes ago, Tom899 said:

Great, just downloaded a diag zip. It;s in the middle of a parity check, if that matters?

I appreciate your help!

Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller

 

This is a PCIe 1.0 controller, with two devices it will be limited to around 80MB/s, would recommend getting a PCIe 2.0 controller from the list on the 1st post, like an Asmedia 1062.

33 minutes ago, JorgeB said:

Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3132 Serial ATA Raid II Controller

 

This is a PCIe 1.0 controller, with two devices it will be limited to around 80MB/s, would recommend getting a PCIe 2.0 controller from the list on the 1st post, like an Asmedia 1062.

Great, that is what i will do, thank you so much!

32 minutes ago, Tom899 said:

Great, that is what i will do, thank you so much!

One more quick question please? I'm assuming to replace my current card its a plug-n-play swap and don't have to get into the BIOS at all?

I ordered a StarTech.com SATA PCIe Card - 2 Port PCIe SATA Expansion Card - 6Gbps - Full/Low Profile - PCI Express to SATA Adapter/Controller - ASM1061 Non-Raid - PCIe to SATA Converter (2P6G-PCIE-SATA-CARD)

Edited April 8, 20242 yr by Tom899

30 minutes ago, Tom899 said:

I'm assuming to replace my current card its a plug-n-play swap and don't have to get into the BIOS at all?

Yes, should be plug and play.

On 4/8/2024 at 11:46 AM, JorgeB said:

Yes, should be plug and play.

Thank you!

the new card works great!

Edited April 10, 20242 yr by Tom899

Hello guys ! I built my setup recently on a ASRock H310CM-DVS with an i5 8400T.

The MB doesn't have any NVME support and i wanted to add a cache drive to my setup so i bought this while following the recommended controller: https://www.cdiscount.com/informatique/composants-informatiques/carte-d-extension-pcie3-0-x4-a-2-ports-m-2-b-key-c/f-1071311-sod4714229560738.html (Asmedia 1164).

Problem is it's compatible with NVME B_key and not regular M. I got a Crucial P3 plus for cache and i also need at least 2 additional SATA ports for my drives. Do you have a recommendation, i'll return the card i bought.

Thanks !

1 hour ago, Taleoo said:

Problem is it's compatible with NVME B_key and not regular

Yep, ASM1164 is a SATA controller, I think it will be difficult to get 2 SATA ports + NVMe in the same card, don't remember ever seeing anything like that.

26 minutes ago, JorgeB said:

Yep, ASM1164 is a SATA controller, I think it will be difficult to get 2 SATA ports + NVMe in the same card, don't remember ever seeing anything like that.

Okay so it's better to get a SATA card with one of the recommended controllers on my PCIEx4 slot and a PCIEx16 card for an NVME slot?

Thanks

 

EDIT : Maybe something like that PCIe-NVME paired with a JMB585 card like this : JMB585 card NVME ?

Edited April 11, 20242 yr by Taleoo

33 minutes ago, Taleoo said:

DIT : Maybe something like that PCIe-NVME

Note that this requires PCIe bifurcation support by the board (x4/x4/x4/x4), if that's is supported it's a good option