slowrolling Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I'm a windows guy that knows just enough to get by in linux. Is there a command like ps or something else that I can use to check and see if preclear_disk.sh is still running? I think a 2TB green drive should take ~30hours or so right? ... I'm already 16 hours in if it is in fact still running, would be a shame to restart now. Quote Link to comment
slowrolling Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 here is the output root 6192 5657 0 02:19 pts/1 00:00:00 grep preclear looks like I should restart then? Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 it is not running Sorry. Quote Link to comment
squirrellydw Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hey Joe, do you still plan to combine this with unmenu? I saw this posted on the first page Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Hey Joe, do you still plan to combine this with unmenu? I saw this posted on the first page At some point, but have not as of yet. Quote Link to comment
squirrellydw Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Anyway to stop the preclear once it's started? I would rather do something else with the server right now Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Anyway to stop the preclear once it's started? I would rather do something else with the server right now Control-C Quote Link to comment
cj0r Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 You should install the screen pkg that way you can have a preclear going on in the background while you do other things (assuming you're going through a telnet sessions and excluding rebooting). Quote Link to comment
chanders Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Do brand new drives need to be precleared ? (I did them anyways). I ask this because a coworker was wondering if to do the same (he is now setting up his first array). His drives have been used before and was thinking to just let unRAID format them. Looking forward to your replies Quote Link to comment
jazzysmooth Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 The advantage to preclearing is it allows you to perform the formatting outside of Unraid so your array remains online for that potentially extended period of time. In addition you get SMART reports on the drives which will show you whether your drive has potential problems before ever trusting your data to it. Quote Link to comment
Rajahal Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Do brand new drives need to be precleared ? (I did them anyways). I ask this because a coworker was wondering if to do the same (he is now setting up his first array). His drives have been used before and was thinking to just let unRAID format them. Looking forward to your replies It is highly recommended, yes. Quote Link to comment
JustinAiken Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Okay, now I have all my movies/music/TV copied to my Unraid, so now I just started to build the parity drive, and I just started preclear scripts for 4 drives at once (now that the movies are done with them). Will unraid be able to do all this at the same time? I cleared 3 drives at once before, but not 4, and not while parity was building... I have 2GB of RAM in now.. Quote Link to comment
jazzysmooth Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Personally, I don't run other tasks while important things like parity creation are occurring. Can Unraid do it all at the same time? Sure, but if you do hit a memory limit, or max out your PSU you chance interfering with the parity calculation. And since parity protection is a primary reason why we use Unraid - I'd let the complete before doing the preclears. Quote Link to comment
cal87 Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I accidentally disconnected my network half way through the post-read. Is there a way to restart the program at the post-read stage to see the results? Don't want to have to start from the beginning. Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted August 20, 2010 Share Posted August 20, 2010 I accidentally disconnected my network half way through the post-read. Is there a way to restart the program at the post-read stage to see the results? Don't want to have to start from the beginning. Sorry. No. Quote Link to comment
CrashnBrn Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I understand most of what my results are but am confused by this: 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 067 067 021 Pre-fail Always - 13683 This is on a new 2tb WD Black, it only took 33 hours to run. Also most of my threshold values are 000, other than that I think every looks good. TIA! Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 The raw value is only meaningful to the mfg. Your worst value is your current value, which is 67. The threshold is 21. You are above that, so no need to worry. Only the mfg knows how quickly this value will decrease or what the value is brand new. Now this following bit, I'm not completely certain about, but it's what I think, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Even if you exceed the threshold value (drop below 021), odds are it'll still work as the status type is 'pre-fail'. The pre-fail type seems to be an indication that something may go wrong, but not a sign of a genuine failure. Quote Link to comment
CrashnBrn Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 The raw value is only meaningful to the mfg. Your worst value is your current value, which is 67. The threshold is 21. You are above that, so no need to worry. Only the mfg knows how quickly this value will decrease or what the value is brand new. Now this following bit, I'm not completely certain about, but it's what I think, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Even if you exceed the threshold value (drop below 021), odds are it'll still work as the status type is 'pre-fail'. The pre-fail type seems to be an indication that something may go wrong, but not a sign of a genuine failure. Wow totally makes sense! I learn a little everyday! What about threshold values of 000? I'm typing (thinking) out loud That means that as the number hits zero that's the point of failure correct? Edit: I missed the other thread that I was supposed to post about the results Quote Link to comment
disco Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I'm running preclear on a new WD20EARS drive that I just received. I have the jumper placed on the 7-8 pins so the drive should be in compatibility mode. The speed of the "Copying zeros to remainder of disk to clear it" is jumping around a ton--I've never seen this with a drive before. Usually my clears (on 1/2TB EADS drives) start off at around 90MB/sec and gradually slow down as the clearing progresses. With the WD20EARS drive (the first of this kind that I've ever used)...the speed is jumping from around 250MB/sec (which seems TOO fast?) to around 3MB/sec.. Is this normal? Does this indicate something is wrong with the drive? Quote Link to comment
disco Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 This is what it looks like currently: 275114483712 bytes (275 GB) copied, 832.136 s, 331 MB/s Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 It probably indicates that sometimes the writes are being written to the buffer memory in the disk drive, and other times it is not. (or having to wait while the buffer is being written to the disk platters ) I would not worry... It works that way with all drives, just the buffering might be more smooth. Quote Link to comment
shawn Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 [pre] ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0 ... [/pre] I think right now the preclear script does not have the attribute headers, so I did not understand how to read the values until I saw this post. Is it possible for this to be added to the script to help those who are unfamiliar with the format? Quote Link to comment
Joe L. Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 [pre] ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 016 Pre-fail Always - 0 ... [/pre] I think right now the preclear script does not have the attribute headers, so I did not understand how to read the values until I saw this post. Is it possible for this to be added to the script to help those who are unfamiliar with the format? A good suggestion. I plan on re-writing the final output based on a lot of what we've learned since I originally wrote the pre-clear script. Joe L. Quote Link to comment
dgaschk Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Is there anyway to run preclear_disk.sh in the background? And have the results mailed Would this work? preclear_disk.sh -m [email protected] /dev/hdk > /dev/null & Then I can disconnect my terminal and wait for an email. What if output where redirected to a file. Could I then login and check the tail of the file for a status update? Quote Link to comment
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